hab29RETIRED Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, revvvrob said: Well …. I like that they say he is first round talent. I like that he is from the Knights program. I just need to hope that his remorse and regret is sincere and that the Habs have done their due diligence. if MB thought he would be available in the 2nd round, he’d have waited. Someone was going to select him - hopefully we end up on being glad we did. the number of people (men mainly) viewing pornography that uses (abuses) sex trafficked women is huge. None of us to play the holy card. I, for one, am upset and disgusted every time another human is abused. I’d expect him to pay for his crime. But, I also believe in forgiveness and that people can turn their lives around. The kid is too young to write him off for life. There’s a difference between viewing pornography and taking pornographicnimages if someone WITHOUT their permission and distributing them. If you can’t see the difference between that; I really don’t know what to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 High stakes move by Bergy. I think this is a window into how badly he wants to win. I hope the player becomes a stud and a respected member of the community but if it doesn’t work out, the move looks brash when he simply could have traded the pick down for another 2nd rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Seems like the Swedish justice system has dealt with this, the work needed is with regards to closure for the victime . From The Athletic: << “Logan says that I want to ruin his career. I have never said that. All I have wanted is to get justice for the actions he has taken against me,” the woman wrote. “If his actions ruin his career, it’s up to him. It’s not my fault.”>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 This was one of the stranger first-round write-ups I've had to do over the years: http://www.habsworld.net/2021/07/habs-select-logan-mailloux-31st-overall/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Puck Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, dlbalr said: This was one of the stranger first-round write-ups I've had to do over the years: http://www.habsworld.net/2021/07/habs-select-logan-mailloux-31st-overall/ Yet you did a great job of presenting a balanced view of this which is not easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Well, that was unexpected. Talent wise, Mailloux isn't bad by any stretch and certainly fits a need but that's definitely a surprising pick given what happened. Talent wise i have no issue with the pick. But #### that guy. Hes a criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 49 minutes ago, revvvrob said: Well …. I like that they say he is first round talent. I like that he is from the Knights program. I just need to hope that his remorse and regret is sincere and that the Habs have done their due diligence. if MB thought he would be available in the 2nd round, he’d have waited. Someone was going to select him - hopefully we end up on being glad we did. the number of people (men mainly) viewing pornography that uses (abuses) sex trafficked women is huge. None of us to play the holy card. I, for one, am upset and disgusted every time another human is abused. I’d expect him to pay for his crime. But, I also believe in forgiveness and that people can turn their lives around. The kid is too young to write him off for life. People deserve second chances. But they are earned not given by default and this kid even knows he hasnt earned the chance yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 If Logan really didn't want to be picked he could have released a statement saying he won't sign an ELC with any team that selects him this year. Kinda hoping he says that tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Count me among those who feel the outrage is overblown. It's a bad, ####ed up thing that the kid did, but it's hardly that uncommon for teenagers, and he's been punished and has undergone counselling. Can we retain a sense of proportion? Bergy has sure invited the PR firestorm, one way or the other. He must also be after DeAngelo and Hoffman. As for the hockey prospect, seems like good upside for 30th overall, a big RHD who can hit, skate and score. We'll see if he can ever shake the black mark his career is starting with, though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 55 minutes ago, Commandant said: Talent wise i have no issue with the pick. But #### that guy. Hes a criminal. For a couple more months. Would he carry the record into adulthood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Well the Habs certainly woke up a ho-hum first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: For a couple more months. Would he carry the record into adulthood? Im all for second chances. But second chances have to be earned. This kid hasnt earned a second chance yet. He even knows that. This is why he told teams not to draft him, cause he knows there is no redemption yet. He hasnt done enough yet. But Bergevin just ignored that and gave him a second chance he hasnt earned cause he can skate and shoot and hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Bergevin can’t refuse a bargain and this kid would have been a bargain at 31 if he wasn’t a criminal. Classless move - Molson must be embarrassed Bring on Deangelo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Kid made a mistake. A big one yes. Should it ruin his life? Hell no. Bad judgement by a teen does not mean he will be a bad person when he grows up. Everyone who believes that is the truth better look in the friggin mirror. I know I did things as a dumb ass punk kid I would never do now and I am not proud of. A very famous person once said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" Great pick that should prove to be brilliant in a few years. Way to go MB!!! Once again you proved ou IQ to be miles above the avg poster on this forum who feel they are gods crusaders of justice and right in the world. To forgive is divine. She has forgiven him, he was a dumb kid, so was she or she wouldn't have been on her knees for the pic. Just saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, johnnyhasbeen said: Kid made a mistake. A big one yes. Should it ruin his life? Hell no. Bad judgement by a teen does not mean he will be a bad person when he grows up. Everyone who believes that is the truth better look in the friggin mirror. I know I did things as a dumb ass punk kid I would never do now and I am not proud of. A very famous person once said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" Great pick that should prove to be brilliant in a few years. Way to go MB!!! Once again you proved ou IQ to be miles above the avg poster on this forum who feel they are gods crusaders of justice and right in the world. To forgive is divine. She has forgiven him, he was a dumb kid, so was she or she wouldn't have been on her knees for the pic. Just saying. Just like Bergevin ignored the situation in Chicago you mean? Or do you believe that he was the one person who didn’t know? Of course the kid can rehabilitate but this move along with the Chicago stuff sure seems to outline an old boys club mentality. It’s not a big deal to him Young women around the world kill themselves over this exact issue but that doesn’t matter cause great job Bergevin. 💩 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Should the girl be branded a slut for life for her moment of stupidity? Young women around the world should learn to be careful who's dick they put in their mouths. Really, this is a not rape we are talking, the act had consent. This is not a drunk raped girl. 4 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Just like Bergevin ignored the situation in Chicago you mean? Or do you believe that he was the one person who didn’t know? Of course the kid can rehabilitate but this move along with the Chicago stuff sure seems to outline an old boys club mentality. It’s not a big deal to him Young women around the world kill themselves over this exact issue but that doesn’t matter cause great job Bergevin. 💩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, johnnyhasbeen said: Should the girl be branded a slut for life for her moment of stupidity? Is that you Marc? Or have you ever worked for the Blackhawks organization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, Prime Minister Koivu said: Is that you Marc? Or have you ever worked for the Blackhawks organization? No Karen, it isn't Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Not his girlfriend. Why was she on her knees in front of this hockey player? How come his judgement as a teen is so important and her's is not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I understand most of you were jacking in your ma's basement alone well into your 20's (probably a lot of you still are)but let me tell you a fact. As a teen male, when your dick is in a girl's mouth, anyone expecting you to have your wits about you has no idea what that is like. his showing the pic to his friends after was a huge mistake. The puck bunny was happy in the moment.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, johnnyhasbeen said: Not his girlfriend. Why was she on her knees in front of this hockey player? How come his judgement as a teen is so important and her's is not? She consented to a sexual act, not to be in his personal porno for his friends… she did nothing wrong. in fact, had she not reported him this behaviour probably would have gotten worse. Hopefully he actually changes. he might be a decent prospect but he asked not to be drafted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, brobin said: She consented to a sexual act, not to be in his personal porno for his friends… she did nothing wrong. in fact, had she not reported him this behaviour probably would have gotten worse. Hopefully he actually changes. he might be a decent prospect but he asked not to be drafted. He asked not to be drafted because his agent told him it was the thing to do. Showing a pic of the top of someones head in not a porno. Let's stick to facts and not exaggerate them. He is being treated as a sexual offender for this which is more than a little extreme is it not? He did not rape this puck bunny, he took a pic of the top of her head while she was happily munching on his carrot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 He didn’t just pass around her pic - that pic was innocuous, nothing identifiable. He purposefully tried to shame her and humiliate her by then linking her personal information including all social media. He is indeed a young predator. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: He didn’t just pass around her pic - that pic was innocuous, nothing identifiable. He purposefully tried to shame her and humiliate her by then linking her personal information including all social media. He is indeed a young predator. Be thankful I have no knowledge of your misdoings in your youth, I would drag you through the mud. thankfully you can only pass judgement from mom's basement in a forum. He is a hab not a pred. He is a kid. You must be too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Let's all agree to pick up this discussion in 5 years when the KID has had a chance to prove himself on and off the ice. How about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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