alfredoh2009 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) Gorton's reset in 2019 (Kakko) Lafreniere (2020) looks like a recipe for the Habs; but until he gets results in Montreal, it is: "what have you done for me lately" ever ! Might as well get started: * since Gorton started, the Habs have not won a game * the only hockey decisions that have been made are: to claim Clague on waivers and to send Norlinder to Laval * Petry, Anderson, Toffoli fell on the ice during a game and are now listed as "injured" until after the holidays * the first call ups were Schueneman and Dauphin Edited February 9, 2022 by alfredoh2009 modified the title to reflect the two-headed GM role 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Beyond here lies nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, DON said: Beyond here lies nothing. Hey, great quote from Dylan! I didn’t know you were fellow fan 👍 The existence of this thread is hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Hey, great quote from Dylan! I didn’t know you were fellow fan 👍 The existence of this thread is hilarious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 As long as he doesn't do to price what was done to Lundqvist, I would be okay. Trade Price let him win a cup else were and ride into the sunset as one of the greats to play the game. Don't hold on to him and let him rot through a rebuild like he did with Lundqvist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: Gorton's reset in 2019 (Kakko) Lafreniere (2020) look like a recipe for the Habs; but until he gets results in Montreal, it is: "what have you done for me lately" ever ! Might as well get started: * since Gorton started, the Habs have not won a game * the only hockey decisions have been to claim Clague on waivers and to send Norlinder to Laval * Petry, Anderson, Toffoli fell on the ice during a game and are now listed as "injured" until after the holidays * the first call ups were Schueneman and Dauphin If we fast forward to 2024/2025 era: and have same luck Rags did with picking. 2nd/1st in back to back seasons (Kakko, Lafreniere) we’d have a number one and number two pick overall that end up with a total of 214 NHL gp and only 75 points combined. If those results are what Gorton brings to this table I will not call that a success nor will it be worth watching a few seasons of garbage hockey to get those picks. While this thread is hilarious now, it’s gonna age well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 28 minutes ago, hockeyrealist said: If those results are what Gorton brings to this table I will not call that a success nor will it be worth watching a few seasons of garbage hockey to get those picks. Currently the Rangers have the best winning percentage in the NHL. He was GM from 2015-2021, I am sure he had nothing to do with their current success. Kakko and Lafreniere are 20 years old. Are you writing them off already? Imagine how good the Rangers will be when they get going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Habsfan89 said: Trade Price let him win a cup else were and ride into the sunset as one of the greats to play the game. Don't hold on to him and let him rot through a rebuild like he did with Lundqvist. Lundqvist had a full no-trade clause and exercised it on at least one occasion to stay there. Gorton didn't choose to let him rot, Lundqvist made it clear he wasn't going to accept a trade. Big difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Habsfan89 said: As long as he doesn't do to price what was done to Lundqvist, I would be okay. Trade Price let him win a cup else were and ride into the sunset as one of the greats to play the game. Don't hold on to him and let him rot through a rebuild like he did with Lundqvist. Well, some good goalies (Luongo seem to do fine on horrible teams in Florida, even as a youngster) get stuck in bad situations but are well compensated, so i dont feel too bad for any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, DON said: Well, some good goalies (Luongo seem to do fine on horrible teams in Florida, even as a youngster) get stuck in bad situations but are well compensated, so i dont feel too bad for any of them. I want Price to win a cup we wasted the last 5 years of him here in Montreal not trying to win a cup. I hope he goes to Edmonton and wins a few with McDavid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Habsfan89 said: I want Price to win a cup ... Unless it is with the Habs, dont really care if he wins one for any other team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 17 hours ago, Habsfan89 said: I want Price to win a cup we wasted the last 5 years of him here in Montreal not trying to win a cup. I hope he goes to Edmonton and wins a few with McDavid. Yo do remember that Bergevin made some moves and that the Habs lost to Tampa Bay in the Stanley Cup Final round last season, right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, JoeLassister said: Yo do remember that Bergevin made some moves and that the Habs lost to Tampa Bay in the Stanley Cup Final round last season, right ? Yeah I also remember he did a retool which wasn't needed when you have guys like Price, Weber and Gallagher and petry on your team. Instead of a retool he should of tried to put together a wining team. He wasted 4 good years out of those guys. 4 years ago should of either been a full rebuild in which you trade those guys or you go all in trying to win a cup with those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Bergevin had the habit of waiting years and years to fill glaring roster holes. In that sense, he did indeed burn years of our core players' primes. On the other hand, his super-aggressive summer of 2020 was the single biggest contributor to the Run of '21. Ultimately he kept his implied promise of building a team that had a chance to win within the window of Price/Weber. I'd also note that a number of vets said very nice things about him when he was fired, and their affection and belief in him seemed sincere. The real problem with MB was his dreadful drafting and development. In any case, he is gone, a new era is starting, let's move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: ... In any case, he is gone, a new era is starting, let's move forward. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Agree what's done is done move on which is why my point was i hope we trade Price so he can go win a cup before his career ends. It just sucks he wont be wining one here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: In any case, he is gone, a new era is starting, let's move forward. Yes, it's much more fun discussing; 1) How the prospects in the system are doing 2) Who should they trade between now and the deadline. 3) Who should they draft as it looks like they may/will have a top 5 pick and hopefully end up with at least 1 more 1st rounder. Biggest needs are at center and RHD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 the loosing streak continues: will the Habs win a game for Gorton in 2021? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: the loosing streak continues: will the Habs win a game for Gorton in 2021? Left this year; Philly-Boston-NY-NY-NJ-TB-Carolina 7 games...even a blind squirrel find a nut, once in a while. So yes win 1 at least, maybe even 2 (i know is crazy talk, but stranger things...)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 1:14 PM, DON said: Left this year; Philly-Boston-NY-NY-NJ-TB-Carolina 7 games...even a blind squirrel find a nut, once in a while. So yes win 1 at least, maybe even 2 (i know is crazy talk, but stranger things...)! will the Habs win two games in a row in 2021? you know, like a winning streak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Hockey_League_longest_winning_streaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanfan Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: will the Habs win two games in a row in 2021? you know, like a winning streak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Hockey_League_longest_winning_streaks Nope. They have to play another game and...well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 2:08 PM, Habsfan89 said: Agree what's done is done move on which is why my point was i hope we trade Price so he can go win a cup before his career ends. It just sucks he wont be wining one here. Such a weird thing to go on about in this thread. Trading him does nothing to guarantee that he will win a cup. We may as well let him try to win one here. That should be the goal for Gorton. edit: I don’t need to delve any more into the topic because it becomes personal, but fans like yourself play the odds and make blanket statements such as “Price won’t win a cup with the Habs” and tend to rub it in when it becomes a reality. Sure, many want the Habs to become the Habs of the glory days, but quite Frankly 31 teams won’t be winning the cup in a given year, so it is ridiculously easy to state such a thing and then act like a know it all once it comes to fruition. With that being said, we even had some of those same comments on here last year, prior to our Stanley Cup appearance, and some of those posters (or one) never returned once we made the cup final. The point of all of this? Price can win a cup as a Canadiens. Will he? That’s entirely up for debate and another question altogether. However, no one knows the answer. That is why we watch the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 I guess Gorton will not see his team win two games in a row in 2021. If he was waiting until the n-th game to make any moves ... well, that will come closer to the trade deadline now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 1. no hope for winning two games in a row anywhere in the near future 2. no move to be able to send the prospects (Primeau, Caufield) to develop in Laval 3. no solution to the black hole (tandem) in nets for Montreal: no respite for the team 4. beside some polite PR interviews, no communication of "the plan" yet, not even a hint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: 1. no hope for winning two games in a row anywhere in the near future 2. no move to be able to send the prospects (Primeau, Caufield) to develop in Laval 3. no solution to the black hole (tandem) in nets for Montreal: no respite for the team 4. beside some polite PR interviews, no communication of "the plan" yet, not even a hint Relax, both fellas were working their phones every time camera panned them. Changes are coming soon'ish', dont worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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