xXx..CK..xXx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 USA forfeits their 2:30pm EST game today versus Switzerland as a result of positive Covid-19 tests and the resulting mandated team quarantine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: Plenty of elite and generational goalies have been drafted in later rounds. This, in itself, is absolutely correct. However, I can also say that plenty of people have won a Lotto 6-49 jackpot. In neither of those cases are the odds favourable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, tomh009 said: This, in itself, is absolutely correct. However, I can also say that plenty of people have won a Lotto 6-49 jackpot. In neither of those cases are the odds favourable. True ... but what are the odds of drawing a generational goaltender in ANY round of a particular draft? The 6/49 may just be a better bet (intentional hyperbole). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 9 hours ago, DON said: Surely teams would have a ranking of more than 65players? Why would you; say, take a d your scouts ranked 39th and pass on the goalie your scouts ranked 36th, because you 'want' more d-men? Habs have done tried that with d-men in 2nd/3rd round (it seemed) and dont think it paid off. So simply go with highest ranked kid on your own board (in first 3 rounds at least), and totally ignore position or need, shouldnt you be better off in long run? The difference between 2 and 3 on any board js much bigger than the difference between 43 and 48. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 8 hours ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: USA forfeits their 2:30pm EST game today versus Switzerland as a result of positive Covid-19 tests and the resulting mandated team quarantine. TSN is saying that if any more positives tests come from team USA, they may have to forfeit the rest tournament. If team USA is forced to forfeit, they may halt the tournament completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 9 hours ago, TurdBurglar said: TSN is saying that if any more positives tests come from team USA, they may have to forfeit the rest tournament. If team USA is forced to forfeit, they may halt the tournament completely. Why would they halt the entire tournament if the problem is only one team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, tomh009 said: Why would they halt the entire tournament if the problem is only one team? They were saying the setup is for 8 teams, so 7 wouldn’t work as well. Rest between games and standing could be affected by a team dropping out. Plus it’s one of the top-4 teams too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, tomh009 said: Why would they halt the entire tournament if the problem is only one team? If the Leafs were forced to close down wouldn't the NHL cease to exist? KIDDING Bob McKenzie's explanation is that IIHF rules say that 8 teams must finish the tournament (i.e., quarterfinals) in order for it to be official ... there are 10 teams in the tournament ... so the chance of cancellation of the tournament is not directly related to any possible exclusion of Team USA ... any three teams would technically, by IIHF rules, negate the tournament ... NOT that self-serving hypocrisy is outside the IIHF's wheelhouse if continuing the tournament would prevent them losing money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: They were saying the setup is for 8 teams, so 7 wouldn’t work as well. Rest between games and standing could be affected by a team dropping out. Plus it’s one of the top-4 teams too. There are 10 teams entered, so they would need to lose three to drop below the eight-team minimum. Canada and the Soviets were both disqualified from the tournament in 1987 and yet medals were awarded, so I don't think losing one team, regardless of which one, would cause a wholesale cancellation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Czechia is forfeiting todays game to the Finns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 OK, now we are getting closer to that threshold. The Czechs only had one positive, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, tomh009 said: OK, now we are getting closer to that threshold. The Czechs only had one positive, though. One game doth not a tournament forfeit make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, tomh009 said: There are 10 teams entered, so they would need to lose three to drop below the eight-team minimum. Canada and the Soviets were both disqualified from the tournament in 1987 and yet medals were awarded, so I don't think losing one team, regardless of which one, would cause a wholesale cancellation. I’m not sure, I’m just passing on information that TSN was reporting. It was Elliot Friedman and Bob Mackenzie, so it’s not a baseless speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: I’m not sure, I’m just passing on information that TSN was reporting. It was Elliot Friedman and Bob Mackenzie, so it’s not a baseless speculation. Don't think anyone was saying it was baseless speculation ... just fleshing out the details of IIHF rules about cancelling a tournament ... assuming they don't find a way to justify ignoring their rules if it comes to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Add Russia to the list of teams having to forfeit. It sounds like the US may be able to play tonight's game as scheduled though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Add Russia to the list of teams having to forfeit. It sounds like the US may be able to play tonight's game as scheduled though. Minus the two players, who have not yet been named. One of the goalies -- Commesso (who tested positive and missed last year's tournament already) or someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanfan Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 and that's all she wrote... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 World juniors cancelled. It wasn’t even a good run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 hours ago, TurdBurglar said: World juniors cancelled. It wasn’t even a good run. Apparently they will try again in the summer, after the Cup final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Feedback/complaint from multiple teams at the tournament is that they were exposed to lots of other people with weddings etc in the hotels, which were not dedicated to the tournament. And yet, the arrangement was a result of complaints from the teams about the strictness of the bubble arrangement in last year's tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Oh well, sucks but not end of world. Allow kids to get back playing with club teams sooner i guess (if that is any consolation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, DON said: Oh well, sucks but not end of world. Allow kids to get back playing with club teams sooner i guess (if that is any consolation). I'm not as much interested about the club teams getting an extra game or two out of their players as I am about the Habs being able to recall Mysak and Guhle if they get hit with more players entering COVID protocol today or tomorrow. They have one healthy skater on an NHL contract left in Laval so if multiple skaters test positive again, they actually might have to turn to a CHL recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Xhekaj could get the call? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, DON said: Xhekaj could get the call? I totally agree, if you are going to lose then you might as well go down with a fight. Great idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, DON said: Xhekaj could get the call? He's definitely in the mix as well if they decide they're going to pull a junior player up; he's the only other plausible recall they have beyond Mysak/Guhle out of the junior ranks. They don't have to do that because they have options on the taxi squad and it doesn't make any sense to have them brought up to be a healthy scratch; I think they'd only do it if they planned to play that person in a game. I'm not sure they'd be willing to put Xhekaj into a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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