habscout Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/kings-hire-former-canadiens-gm-marc-bergevin-consultant/https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/kings-hire-former-canadiens-gm-marc-bergevin-consultant/ Interesting. At least he's off Montreal's payroll. Edited January 9, 2022 by habscout update url Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, habscout said: Interesting. At least he's off Montreal's payroll. He's not off the payroll unless the Kings are paying Bergevin's old salary to him. Whatever he's getting from Los Angeles can be deducted from what the Habs owe him but they're still responsible for making him whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I wonder what a consultant does. Gainey has had this role for a long time, I believe. Is it as simple as “we’re thinking of doing X, what is your view?” What puzzles me is that, surely, managerial teams have several hockey minds doing deep-dives into things like player eval, contract management, advanced stats, etc.. I’m not sure what the point of hiring an extra consultant is. Naive of me, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 It sounds like he'll move up to assistant GM next season and at that point, he'd be next in line when Blake gets let go. This is an opportunity to get his feet wet with the organization and with a consultant title, they'd have to pay him considerably less, meaning that Montreal is still on the hook for more of the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 43 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I wonder what a consultant does. Gainey has had this role for a long time, I believe. Is it as simple as “we’re thinking of doing X, what is your view?” What puzzles me is that, surely, managerial teams have several hockey minds doing deep-dives into things like player eval, contract management, advanced stats, etc.. I’m not sure what the point of hiring an extra consultant is. Naive of me, I suppose. Scotty Bowman has spent close to 20 years consulting for the Wings and the Black Hawks. At least in his case, he's worked more proactively, watching other teams, looking for opportunities for his employer rather than just doing something when asked. Apparently this provides enough value to get paid for 20 years of it. That said, I have no illusions about Bergevin being at the same level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, tomh009 said: Scotty Bowman has spent close to 20 years consulting for the Wings and the Black Hawks. At least in his case, he's worked more proactively, watching other teams, looking for opportunities for his employer rather than just doing something when asked. Apparently this provides enough value to get paid for 20 years of it. That said, I have no illusions about Bergevin being at the same level. Comparing Bergevin to Bowman, would be like comparing Pee Wee Herman to Paul Newman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 10 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: Comparing Bergevin to Bowman, would be like comparing Pee Wee Herman to Paul Newman. I didn't compare them. CC's question was what a consultant would do for an NHL team. I used Scotty Bowman as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 13 hours ago, dlbalr said: It sounds like he'll move up to assistant GM next season and at that point, he'd be next in line when Blake gets let go. This is an opportunity to get his feet wet with the organization and with a consultant title, they'd have to pay him considerably less, meaning that Montreal is still on the hook for more of the money. If it’s basically a way of taking MB off the market pending his proper integration into the organizational structure, then that does make sense. And of course, any opportunity to add Scotty Bowman to your organization is one you take. I remain a bit perplexed by the Bob Gaineys of the world, hanging around as “consultants.” It still seems to me that if your management structure is sound, you shouldn’t need to hire a “consultant” on an ongoing basis. But maybe I’m making too much of the title, and what it really is is a sort of “assistant to the assistant GM” part-time job that adds some sort of value…beats me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Yeah, a consultant could be almost anything, ranging from a full-time advisor to somebody that has a small monthly retainer, and whom the GM (or AGM) will call once in a while when they need some insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Rob Blake just got a contract extension at the same time bergevin was brought on board so it doesnt seem to be a lame duck situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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