Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, GHT120 said: I wonder how far he would have to drop for the value to outlay the awkwardness? Good question. Perhaps the Oilers 2nd or the Habs 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, GHT120 said: I wonder how far he would have to drop for the value to outlay the awkwardness? The 8th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 An interesting Twitter thread about the top two blueliners in the draft: https://twitter.com/byronmbader/status/1522642598338342912 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, dlbalr said: An interesting Twitter thread about the top two blueliners in the draft: https://twitter.com/byronmbader/status/1522642598338342912 That link didn't work for me, but I found the tweet ... interesting discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 He is high on the one kid; but is Hughes? Assume would pick a centre with a top 2 pick and if is 3rd then he may slot in as BPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I like jiricek but i disagree.with him saying hes better than Nemec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 If the Habs loose the lottery, I would trade down to pick Nemec 3rd or 4th (depending of other team's preferences) I am not sold on Cooley, and I really want a top-4 RD in this draft. I have not seen consensus on #2 this draft, and I do not want the Habs to take chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 https://www.habsworld.net/2022/05/a-drop-to-third-wouldnt-be-a-disaster-in-top-heavy-draft/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 9 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: If the Habs loose the lottery, I would trade down to pick Nemec 3rd or 4th (depending of other team's preferences) I am not sold on Cooley, and I really want a top-4 RD in this draft. I have not seen consensus on #2 this draft, and I do not want the Habs to take chances. How much have you watched of Cooley to be "not sold" and to know that it would be taking a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 11 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: If the Habs loose the lottery, I would trade down to pick Nemec 3rd or 4th (depending of other team's preferences) I am not sold on Cooley, and I really want a top-4 RD in this draft. I have not seen consensus on #2 this draft, and I do not want the Habs to take chances. Still would prefer a d-man late 1st or with either 2nd round pick and take a forward in top 3. But, maybe Nemec is potentially, that good, just hope Hab scouts get it right this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, DON said: just hope Hab scouts get it right this year. Yes Yes Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 Wow, Brad Lambert at 35?? Talk about a guy whose rankings have been all over the place. https://www.tsn.ca/shane-wright-nhl-draft-lottery-ranking-1.1797605 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Wow, Brad Lambert at 35?? Talk about a guy whose rankings have been all over the place. A faller eh. 25-35 range is toss up and lots of good looking kids... just like a Fucale, Collberg, Thrower, Brook, Ikonen, delaRose, Scherbak... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Commandant said: How much have you watched of Cooley to be "not sold" and to know that it would be taking a chance. Funny you ask. It is based on your scouting report on Nenec (whom you have at #3) that I checked all available rankings There is no consensus after Wright and of all the options I went with yours https://www.eliteprospects.com/draft-center/2022 That should teach me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: There is no consensus after Wright... Seems 99% of folks have Cooley pegged a 2nd best, dont they? (kinda like 100% had Yakapov as best i suppose) See what scout poll for top 5 is today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, DON said: Seems 99% of folks have Cooley pegged a 2nd best, dont they? (kinda like 100% had Yakapov as best i suppose) See what scout poll for top 5 is today. 99% is being generous. From the link, and adding Commandant's: Consolidated: Bichesel (0) FCHockey: Cooley (1) McKenzie: Cooley (1) Button: Cooley (1) NHL EU: N/A (N/A) Elite Prtospects: Jiricek (0) Neutral Zone: N/A (N/A) McKeen's: Nemec (0) NHL NA: Cooley (1) * I'll interpret it as a yes SportsNet: Cooley (1) Recruit: Cooley (1) Draft prospects: Savoie (0) Puck Authority: Cooley (1) Dobber: Kemell (0) SMAHT: Lambert (0) LWOS: Cooley (1) percentage: 8/14 = 57% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 35 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: 99% is being generous. From the link, and adding Commandant's: Consolidated: Bichesel (0) FCHockey: Cooley (1) McKenzie: Cooley (1) Button: Cooley (1) NHL EU: N/A (N/A) Elite Prtospects: Jiricek (0) Neutral Zone: N/A (N/A) McKeen's: Nemec (0) NHL NA: Cooley (1) * I'll interpret it as a yes SportsNet: Cooley (1) Recruit: Cooley (1) Draft prospects: Savoie (0) Puck Authority: Cooley (1) Dobber: Kemell (0) SMAHT: Lambert (0) LWOS: Cooley (1) percentage: 8/14 = 57% interesting list ... two comments and an aside ... (1) not all lists are created equal, so I would be curious to hear from the more expert than me which they consider the most authoritative ... (2) an unknown is when the lists were created as there could be movement up or down afterwards. ASIDE: NHL central scouting produces four completely distinct lists, skaters and goalies for North America and Europe ... ***if*** they were all merged into a single list, Cooley might still be #2 or might be lower if bumped down by an EU skater(s) or, theoretically, a NA or EU goalie(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I want Cooley. Shane Wright has not impressed me at all any time I've watched him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I know zilch about prospects, but whenever I hear about an 18-year-old's two-way game and how 'responsible' he is, as opposed to how dazzling a talent he is, I get a tiny but uneasy. I'd rather have a 90-point explosive dynamo who doesn't kill penalties than a 65-point 'responsible' player. Bo Horvat is great and all, but give me Sebastien Aho. Cooley gets raves for his off-the-chart speed and offensive dynamism. That's sounds more like it to me. That being said, scouts know more than I do. If the Habs get Wright I will be perfectly happy and will cross my fingers that we didn't pass on a bona-fide star in order to get the 'responsible' player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I know zilch about prospects, but whenever I hear about an 18-year-old's two-way game and how 'responsible' he is, as opposed to how dazzling a talent he is, I get a tiny but uneasy. I'd rather have a 90-point explosive dynamo who doesn't kill penalties than a 65-point 'responsible' player. Bo Horvat is great and all, but give me Sebastien Aho. Cooley gets raves for his off-the-chart speed and offensive dynamism. That's sounds more like it to me. That being said, scouts know more than I do. If the Habs get Wright I will be perfectly happy and will cross my fingers that we didn't pass on a bona-fide star in order to get the 'responsible' player. Cooley also gets rave reviews for his defensive game. And wright has scored more in tournaments when they have gone head to head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DON Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Mackenzie quick scout poll "And where Kingston Frontenac centre Shane Wright got nine of 10 No. 1 votes from the scouts in our mid-season rankings in January, he got six of nine votes to remain atop the quickie poll. Wright would appear to be staring down two legitimate threats for first overall. Big Slovak winger Juraj Slafkovsky received two No. 1 votes today and USA Hockey National Team Development Program Under-18 team centre Logan Cooley got one. Slafkovsky was No. 5 at mid-season but vaulted up to No. 2 on this lottery day ranking. Cooley, who was No. 2 at mid-season, is No. 3 today, but very little separates the American and Slovak forwards. The big mover, though, is heady Slovak defenseman Simon Nemec, who was No. 9 at mid-season. He moved up to No. 4 on the strength of four of our nine scouts ranking him in their top three overall, one of them at No. 2. Finnish winger Joakim Kemell, No. 3 on the mid-season rankings, checks in at No. 5 today. Winnipeg Ice forward Matt Savoie, who was No. 4 on the mid-season rankings, did get a pair of top-five votes in the lottery edition poll but not enough to get by Nemec or Kemell. Czechia defender David Jiricek, No. 7 at mid-season, picked up three Top 5 votes this time. Jiricek was the closest to challenging Kemell for the No. 5 spot." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: percentage: 8/14 = 57% Jughead Bob's poll, puts him at #3 and i did say "seems" like 99%. I guess the homogenous winger is seen as pretty equal value. 6'4" 220lb is the bit worry about, size severely blinds GMs..."What if he is another Jagr!" Same as that 6'7" d-man from the Q, if he was 6'1" 190lb he likely wouldn't be 1st round rated...just wildass guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I'm not a huge fan of Slafkovsky. He had a nice olympics obviously, but the production is pretty mediocre the rest of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 SHANE WRIGHT IS A HAB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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