The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: I think the move that would be smarter is one they can’t make be use of a NMC. Move that would probably open up the most cap room, is moving Tavares. He makes way too much for his production, and what any team can afford to pay a 2nd line centre. It’s so interesting how these things go. When they signed Tavares, I was horrified at the strength it gave them down the middle, but also a bit puzzled that they made that investment at C when they already had Matthews. Now that Matthews has become one of the very best players in the game, that signing looks more and more like it was a classic attempt to fast-track a rebuild instead of doing it properly and waiting for your young guns to evolve - like they lost their nerve prematurely regarding Matthews and sought a fall-back for #1C. The other thing they did that I struggled to understand at the time was re-sign Nylander when he was holding out. I love Nylander, but it seemed obvious to me that they should be moving him for help on D and could use the holdout as a pretext for doing so. Right now, it looks as though - for an organization that has mostly done things right over the past decade - those two decisions have, ironically, worked against them in terms of team structure. Those players are still elite players, but they’re locked into this FW-heavy roster, and it’s not working when the chips are down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 I think Nylander is the trade where you get the most value simply because he has 2 more years left at 6.9M which is pretty good value for a guy who scored 80 points. Teams will pay up for good value and the Leafs could probably get a very good piece on their blueline for him. Tavares on the other hand has a full NMC, is 31, has 2 years left at 11M. It was exciting for them to sign Tavares but that signing has not paid off. It was actually a good move to re-sign Nylander as his contract makes him more tradeable. His value has gone up since the signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: It’s so interesting how these things go. When they signed Tavares, I was horrified at the strength it gave them down the middle, but also a bit puzzled that they made that investment at C when they already had Matthews. Now that Matthews has become one of the very best players in the game, that signing looks more and more like it was a classic attempt to fast-track a rebuild instead of doing it properly and waiting for your young guns to evolve - like they lost their nerve prematurely regarding Matthews and sought a fall-back for #1C. The other thing they did that I struggled to understand at the time was re-sign Nylander when he was holding out. I love Nylander, but it seemed obvious to me that they should be moving him for help on D and could use the holdout as a pretext for doing so. Right now, it looks as though - for an organization that has mostly done things right over the past decade - those two decisions have, ironically, worked against them in terms of team structure. Those players are still elite players, but they’re locked into this FW-heavy roster, and it’s not working when the chips are down. I think the leafs did a good job on their rebuild, but messed up the contracts. they drafted three studs forwards, and needed to get a solid top pairing Dman. the Tavares signing could only work if they got their three forwards signed to reasonable deals, so they could get another top line dman. Instead they paid guys max $ and didn’t even get max term. They not only ended up spending around $40M on four forwards, they didn’t even lock them up for maximum term, and May walk Matthews and Marner to free agency. contract term and $ made very little sense, and the Tavares signing limits their ability to fill out their roster. Matthews- I don’t get how every other comparable young star (including McDavid), got locked up for maximum term, while the Leafs on made Matthews the 2nd highest player in the league, but only locked him up for 5 years. Didn’t make sense. Marner - again paid him over $10M, but locked him up for only 6 years. Paying him too much, when you consider they didn’t but more UFA years. Nylander - for what he had done to date- overpaid, and again only locked him up for 6 years. He is worth the money now, but hadn’t earned it when they signed him. Would have been better of letting him sit the year. With these 3 signing coming out of their entry level deal and the Tavares signing, they are going to be in tough cap wise, given their needs. They need to sign Giordano, AND another top D. Oh, and Their goalie is also a UFA. Don’t know where they will get the money. They got good value on some players this year, who they won’t be able to afford to resign. Dubas fxcked up the cap royally. I’m hoping that in two years, the Leafs cap hell will get worse, while Montreal, will have solids picks developing and be ready to become a solid playoff team, and than a contender in an additional year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Bold call of the day. Montreal wins a playoff series before the Leafs do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Go Pens go, beat those NYC fellas! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Rags tying goal was 100% due to ripping a penguins helmet off. That rule needs to go. It was a tactic last year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 7 hours ago, BCHabnut said: Rags tying goal was 100% due to ripping a penguins helmet off. That rule needs to go. It was a tactic last year too. Didn't see the play ... but if playing without a helmet is a penalty then directly causing a player to lose his helmet should be a minor penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: Didn't see the play ... but if playing without a helmet is a penalty then directly causing a player to lose his helmet should be a minor penalty. Yes, that absolutely should be. But it rarely gets called. It's pretty obvious in this video: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Albertans are happy happy happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 That Flames game was absolutely epic. Total domination by Calgary until the third, when Dallas, smelling a steal, started pushing. Oettinger gave one of the great playoff performances of all time (shades of Dryden 1971, Roy 1986, Halak 2010) while the teams traded rushes; the pressure was on Markstrom not to crack, and impressively, he did not. All the patterns of the game pointed toward a Dallas win. Gaudreau, maligned for being a non-factor in past playoffs, was all over the ice in this one (as was Heiskanen for Dallas). It was poetic justice that he scored the winner on a crazy-perfect shot from a bad angle. The Sportsnet team was positively giddy thereafter, with Hrudey calling it maybe the best game he’d ever watched. I can see that. It was incredible hockey. The Alberta series is going to be one for the ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Go Oilers. Take out Calgary (doubt they can, but its better for the Habs if they do) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: That Flames game was absolutely epic. Total domination by Calgary until the third, when Dallas, smelling a steal, started pushing. Oettinger gave one of the great playoff performances of all time (shades of Dryden 1971, Roy 1986, Halak 2010) while the teams traded rushes; the pressure was on Markstrom not to crack, and impressively, he did not. All the patterns of the game pointed toward a Dallas win. Gaudreau, maligned for being a non-factor in past playoffs, was all over the ice in this one (as was Heiskanen for Dallas). It was poetic justice that he scored the winner on a crazy-perfect shot from a bad angle. The Sportsnet team was positively giddy thereafter, with Hrudey calling it maybe the best game he’d ever watched. I can see that. It was incredible hockey. The Alberta series is going to be one for the ages. It was a great game, was cheering for Dallas but Calgary deserved it. Go Oilers but I think the Flames take it in 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: That Flames game was absolutely epic. Total domination by Calgary until the third, when Dallas, smelling a steal, started pushing. Oettinger gave one of the great playoff performances of all time (shades of Dryden 1971, Roy 1986, Halak 2010) while the teams traded rushes; the pressure was on Markstrom not to crack, and impressively, he did not. All the patterns of the game pointed toward a Dallas win. Gaudreau, maligned for being a non-factor in past playoffs, was all over the ice in this one (as was Heiskanen for Dallas). It was poetic justice that he scored the winner on a crazy-perfect shot from a bad angle. The Sportsnet team was positively giddy thereafter, with Hrudey calling it maybe the best game he’d ever watched. I can see that. It was incredible hockey. The Alberta series is going to be one for the ages. I was actually a bit emotional at the end of the game. Halak 2010 and hasek were my two comparisons. What a performance. He was like that all series but last night was special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted May 17, 2022 Author Share Posted May 17, 2022 Go Oil and Avs! Can't say I like anyone left in the East... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Dodged a bullet: How our former Montreal Canadiens are doing in this years Playoffs; Domi 2G 3A Kulak 3A Lehkonen 2G 10PIM Perry 2G Chiarot 1A Sergachev 2A McDonagh 1G 2A Kassian 1G 1A Toffoli 1G 1A Scandella -3 Kotkaniemi -4 #GoHabsGo — AndreRacicot🚨 (@habys4life) May 17, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 But, I was told that KK was a clutch playoff performer, and his stats in Montreal werent just an inflated shooting percentage in a small sample size (ie random luck). 0g 0a in 7 games in the first round (that's called reversion to the mean). Again.... No such thing as clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Long may Kotkaniemi suck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Tough start for Edmonton tonight - down 2-0 less than a minute into the first period. Meanwhile, Carolina tied it late and scored early in OT to pull out a 2-1 victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Have an 80’s oilers-flames going on right now - minus the bench clearing brawls and fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 14pts in 7gms for Mcdavid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 McDavid with an unreal performance in game 1, it's a shame their defence is so incompetent. I hope we get 7 games of this series! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Neech said: McDavid with an unreal performance in game 1, it's a shame their defence is so incompetent. I hope we get 7 games of this series! Holland is an idiot for not getting a goalie and trying to upgrade his D with an old Keith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Holland is an idiot for not getting a goalie and trying to upgrade his D with an old Keith. Yup ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Holland is an idiot for not getting a goalie and trying to upgrade his D with an old Keith. Smith has been great in the playoffs so far. He had a bad 7 minutes last night. Markstrom was awful too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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