GHT120 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: I’m hoping it will be over $10m. Preferably closer to $11m. I think even with the current cap crunch, he could easily get that on the open market. Although there is the RFA/UFA difference ... whatever Pastrnak gets raises the bar for Caufield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, GHT120 said: Although there is the RFA/UFA difference ... whatever Pastrnak gets raises the bar for Caufield. I’m hoping we lock him up long term to an 8 year deal like Suzuki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I really dont know or care enough to debate contract/player values. And am guessing is same for most fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: I’m hoping we lock him up long term to an 8 year deal like Suzuki. I'd be surprised if he takes 8 years at Suzuki money knowing the cap is expected to start jumping in a couple of years. It'd be nice but his agent has a reputation for not recommending those types of contracts. I think they'll push for a Jason Robertson-like structure, 4 years backloaded for a higher QO (he's still 5 years away from UFA status) with an AAV that comes in a bit below Suzuki's now but sets him up for a double-digit pay day in 2027-28. I'm sure the Habs will try for the max-term deal (and if they don't get it, it doesn't mean they didn't try) but there isn't much in it for Caufield's camp to do a long-term contract around Suzuki's AAV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, dlbalr said: I'd be surprised if he takes 8 years at Suzuki money knowing the cap is expected to start jumping in a couple of years. It'd be nice but his agent has a reputation for not recommending those types of contracts. I think they'll push for a Jason Robertson-like structure, 4 years backloaded for a higher QO (he's still 5 years away from UFA status) with an AAV that comes in a bit below Suzuki's now but sets him up for a double-digit pay day in 2027-28. I'm sure the Habs will try for the max-term deal (and if they don't get it, it doesn't mean they didn't try) but there isn't much in it for Caufield's camp to do a long-term contract around Suzuki's AAV. I think you are probably right, but it would be nice to have a hab sign a team friendly LT deal. I think Markov had a decent deal, Maxpac and a Gallagher’s 2nd contracts were good as well, but for the most part we’ve either handed out dumb deals to guys that never showed they were core players like Drouin, Anderson, Armia, or Savard, and blundered on playing hardball with a core guy like Subban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Short article about Slafkovsky and the Juniors and the Habs struggles. Seems like a great attitude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Short article about Slafkovsky and the Juniors and the Habs struggles. Seems like a great attitude He has never been coddled. I have never criticized Slaf, the attitude, maturity and skill is there. He will make it. The Habs suck right now and not too many players are looking good. A little patience is required. Not worried at all about Slaf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Spencer Knight has been placed on IR by Florida. His SV% is nine points better than Sergei Bobrovsky (.905 to .896) so this could make Florida's playoff push a little harder. No word yet on how long Knight will be out for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 53 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Spencer Knight has been placed on IR by Florida. His SV% is nine points better than Sergei Bobrovsky (.905 to .896) so this could make Florida's playoff push a little harder. No word yet on how long Knight will be out for. Awww ... ❤️❤️❤️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Doesn't get me excited ... with Monahan and Gallagher out they need a 13th forward ... unless someone has a bo-bo it will be interesting to see who sits ***if*** he plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, GHT120 said: Doesn't get me excited ... with Monahan and Gallagher out they need a 13th forward ... unless someone has a bo-bo it will be interesting to see who sits ***if*** he plays. I don’t think they would recall Ylonen just to have him sit in the press box. But we’ll find out soon enough what their plan is. I’d like to see whether he can help PP2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, tomh009 said: I’d like to see whether he can help PP2. AND...who is coming to fix PP1, which is more horrible. I simply cringe when Habs get a PP, is so god awful to watch i almost fast forward the game to avoid the frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 I would love to see any new blood in the lineup, don't care who sits out of our 4-5 marginal forwards. What's our excitement level for Ylonen, 2/10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, Neech said: I would love to see any new blood in the lineup, don't care who sits out of our 4-5 marginal forwards. What's our excitement level for Ylonen, 2/10? I really like Ylonen, my excitement level is more 7/10. He is an excellent skater, perhaps with Gally out he will get a chance to show what he can do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 6 hours ago, tomh009 said: I don’t think they would recall Ylonen just to have him sit in the press box. But we’ll find out soon enough what their plan is. I thought something similar for Justin Barron and yet he has sat for three games and counting for reasons no one seems to know so I wouldn't put it past them sitting him for some games at least. 3 hours ago, Neech said: I would love to see any new blood in the lineup, don't care who sits out of our 4-5 marginal forwards. What's our excitement level for Ylonen, 2/10? I think you're right on the excitement level but my intrigue level would be a bit higher than that. This is his last season of waiver exemption so they need to get a good look at him to see if he's part of the plans beyond this season or if he's expendable in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 https://www.habsworld.net/2023/01/hw-3-stars-december-2022/ Dec stars; Caufield, Xhekaj, Guhle (HM- Suzuki) Youth. Conversly Gallagher/Dadanov/Hoffman/Anderson/Armia/Drouin/Dvorak/Edmundson/Savard were not stars in December or Nov or Oct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 14 hours ago, dlbalr said: I thought something similar for Justin Barron and yet he has sat for three games and counting for reasons no one seems to know so I wouldn't put it past them sitting him for some games at least. I think you're right on the excitement level but my intrigue level would be a bit higher than that. This is his last season of waiver exemption so they need to get a good look at him to see if he's part of the plans beyond this season or if he's expendable in a trade. Ylonen seems like a plausible bottom-6 prospect kept out of the lineup mostly by the crowd of useless veterans that we're hoping to be able to trade. I suspect we'll need him next year, when a few of those bums have been cleared out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Ylonen seems like a plausible bottom-6 prospect kept out of the lineup mostly by the crowd of useless veterans that we're hoping to be able to trade. I suspect we'll need him next year, when a few of those bums have been cleared out. yes, agreed that we'll need him next year. I would have waived Dadonov to give a spot to Ylonen this year. ( Monahan, that bum !! Sheeesh ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: yes, agreed that we'll need him next year. I would have waived Dadonov to give a spot to Ylonen this year. ( Monahan, that bum !! Sheeesh ) Don't put words in my mouth. The guys I have in mind are Dandonov, Hoffman, and Drouin - complete bums, all three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Don't put words in my mouth. The guys I have in mind are Dandonov, Hoffman, and Drouin - complete bums, all three. I know, I made a joke: look at the emojis, emojis: = snarky comment, = me being a clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Don't put words in my mouth. The guys I have in mind are Dandonov, Hoffman, and Drouin - complete bums, all three. Thankfully 2 of the three are gone next season ... a "magic wand" is needed to rehabilitate Hoffman's production so he MIGHT be tradeable ... a buyout this summer might be doable ($1,166,667 for each of 23/24 and 24/25), thanks again MB ... could try a 50% retention trade ($2.5 pro-rated **if** traded this season, and $2.5 next) to avoid the 24/25 buyout hit ... all depends on how HuGo project their spending needs in the next two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 Hoffman is on a 30-35 point pace, so not totally useless but not commensurate with his $4.5M AAV. He's still shooting at 11.3% but only averaging about two shots per game so that won't produce a lot of goals. Another team (maybe one with a functioning power play unit) might possibly see him as a useful add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, tomh009 said: Hoffman is on a 30-35 point pace, so not totally useless but not commensurate with his $4.5M AAV. He's still shooting at 11.3% but only averaging about two shots per game so that won't produce a lot of goals. Another team (maybe one with a functioning power play unit) might possibly see him as a useful add. 1.5 mill salary retained, maybe it could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Have your say! https://www.habsworld.net/2023/01/assign-your-habs-second-quarter-grades/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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