GHT120 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 MONTREAL The Canadiens skated at the Bell Centre ahead of their matchup against the Penguins. Here are the lines and defense pairings featured by head coach Martin St-Louis: Monday, October 17 Morning skate LW C RW 22 - Cole Caufield 14 - Nick Suzuki 91 - Sean Monahan 63 - Evgenii Dadonov 28 - Christian Dvorak 11 - Brendan Gallagher 27 - Jonathan Drouin 77 - Kirby Dach 17 - Josh Anderson 20 - Juraj Slafkovsky 71 - Jake Evans 68 - Mike Hoffman LD RD G 21 - Kaiden Guhle 58 - David Savard 35 - Sam Montembeault 54 - Jordan Harris 26 - Johnathan Kovacevic 30 - Cayden Primeau 72 - Arber Xhekaj 6 - Chris Wideman The best I could find And now for the Pens… Projected Lines Forwards Jake Guentzel – Sidney Crosby – Rickard Rakell Jason Zucker – Evgeni Malkin – Bryan Rust Danton Heinen-Jeff Carter-Kasperi Kapanen Brock McGinn – Ryan Poehling – Josh Archibald Defense Brian Dumoulin / Kris Letang Marcus Pettersson/Jeff Petry Pierre-Olivier Joseph / Jan Rutta Goalies: Tristan Jarry, Casey DeSmith Scratches: Teddy Blueger (day-to-day injury), Chad Ruhwedel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I almost panicked not seeing Allen there. Injured? But, fortunately not, he's just taking some parental leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Interesting lines 🎉 If you are going to play Slafkovsky bottom line minutes without PP time then send him to Laval. I do like Monahan on the top line and I’m curious how Dach does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 I like Monahan on the topline with CC & NS ... could be a nice trio Slafkovsky on the 4th line reflects his usage Saturday (12:41 TOI is IMO actually decent with no PK or PP) ... but don't see him staying up with the Habs if he settles into that role ... tons of TOI with the Rocket would IMO be more beneficial ... PERSONALLY, I would have no problems with him going to the Erie Otters (they drafted him in 2021) ... Habs lose some developmental control but he would get out from under the Montreal microscope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 same here, like Monahan with Suzuki to take strong size face-offs (lefty). Also, having a big forward in that line is needed. I also like that Droin and Anderson, who had chemistry before, are playing with Dach. A better fit than Dvorak. Druin can take some face-offs too, Third-line matchups should work better. I don't care where Dvorak plays, the conditioning repetitions on the fourth line should help him... but he has not played well. Hoffman has been floating on ice, his usual except he has not gotten may shots on goal which makes him useless. With Montembeault and Primeau dressing for this game, it should be another one in the bank for the tank Go Habs Go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: If you are going to play Slafkovsky bottom line minutes without PP time then send him to Laval. I think he will be and should be sent down; but, in grand scheme of things, a few games more in the NHL with limited minutes is fine. Too bad Pitlick and Pezzetta aren't playing in place of Hoffman and Drouin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I hope this isn't the game we get shellacked. Or if we do we at least put up 2 or 3 goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, DON said: I think he will be and should be sent down; but, in grand scheme of things, a few games more in the NHL with limited minutes is fine. Too bad Pitlick and Pezzetta aren't playing in place of Hoffman and Drouin. As much as I hate seeing those two bums, we need to play them and hope they show a pulse and produce - it’s the only way we have any chance of dumping them and get some assets back. MB left a lot of bad contracts that he handed out like candy, or traded for to guys that are underachieving “character” 🙄 players that we need to get rid of - Drouin, Hoffman, Armia, Byron, Gallagher, Savard, and Dvorak. At least Drouin and Byron expire at the end of this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Martin St. Louis was asked how the Canadiens can defend a team that scores six goals a game. “By playing offensively with the puck. They can’t score from their defensive zone.” — Arpon Basu (@ArponBasu) October 17, 2022 ... and you stop loosing the puck at the offensive zone blue line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: As much as I hate seeing those two bums, we need to play them and hope they show a pulse and produce - it’s the only way we have any chance of dumping them and get some assets back. MB left a lot of bad contracts that he handed out like candy, or traded for to guys that are underachieving “character” 🙄 players that we need to get rid of - Drouin, Hoffman, Armia, Byron, Gallagher, Savard, and Dvorak. At least Drouin and Byron expire at the end of this year. Cheer for Bergevin to get a GM job ... I am certain he would be PROUD to be able to add Gallagher to his new team ... 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Will be interesting to see how Habs juggle, playing guys who 'deserve' it vs playing culls like Hoffman who they (and 100% of Habfans) want to be rid now, at deadline or any point in between. Kinda hope they can just focus on developing long term Habs and mostly ignore the whole showcasing guys that they would simply love to deal for some kind of asset bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 These lines look like desperation and way too early for that. Not sure why breaking up the one productive line 14/22/17 makes sense, even more so given the need to insuLAte Dach with Monohan. Drouin cannot take face offs as was mentioned so that theory doesn’t make sense. Agreed that playing Slaf on fourth line makes no sense, not going to get him any confidence that way. I’m not impressed with these coaching moves and will probably be proven wrong so Go Habs Go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Lucky break on that post. How is Dadanov this bad? Like, how did he get a $5m contract being this bad?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plutarch Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: Lucky break on that post. How is Dadanov this bad? Like, how did he get a $5m contract being this bad?? I'd say he is probably not in a great headspace after what Vegas pulled last season. Doesn't want to be on a bad Montreal team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Plutarch said: ... Doesn't want to be on a bad Montreal team. The quickest way off is to make someone want to trade for you ... HuGo have shown they not are locked in to the trade deadline if they get what they see as a fair offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, GHT120 said: The quickest way off is to make someone want to trade for you ... HuGo have shown they not are locked in to the trade deadline if they get what they see as a fair offer. There's also the "Dvorak factor" - remember how lost he seemed in the first half last year? Sometimes it's just tough for a new guy to click with a new organization. I do find this odd coming from a 33-year-old seasoned vet. It could be the same thing that's ailing Hoffman - i.e., he is simply too old to be the player he used to be, and Montreal is the team that gets to discover how rapidly he is in decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: There's also the "Dvorak factor" - remember how lost he seemed in the first half last year? Sometimes it's just tough for a new guy to click with a new organization. I do find this odd coming from a 33-year-old seasoned vet. It could be the same thing that's ailing Hoffman - i.e., he is simply too old to be the player he used to be, and Montreal is the team that gets to discover how rapidly he is in decline. Dadonov looked like this two years ago in Ottawa. He's a secondary offensive guy that's a bit overpaid relative to his role and playing for his fourth team (and system) in as many years probably isn't helping much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: Lucky break on that post. That was super odd. From the top angle I was sure it didnt go in, but all other angles no clue. I think Monahan with Suzuki and Caufield is a smart idea. They have chemistry with anybody, so move Anderson in hopes of getting Drouin going. Damn, they're looking dangerous. That 1 play was almost the sweetest play ever. i.e. the tic tack toe x3 but Caulfield missed getting the puck back. That would have been insane had he scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I think we played a pretty good period. Although I’m not sure if the Monahan, Anderson swap is helping either line. Guhle needs a better D partner than Savard. His skating is really, really impressive and it would be amazing to have Guhle paired with another strong skater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, GHT120 said: The quickest way off is to make someone want to trade for you ... HuGo have shown they not are locked in to the trade deadline if they get what they see as a fair offer. Dadanov is looking at option B right now if he doesn't improve. Getting sent to Laval. It's not something that will happen right away, but if he doesn't improve, I could see at the 15 game mark it could be a possibility. Montreal clears just over $1m off their cap hit, $2.5m if he gets claimed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I think we played a pretty good period. Although I’m not sure if the Monahan, Anderson swap is helping either line. Guhle needs a better D partner than Savard. His skating is really, really impressive and it would be amazing to have Guhle paired with another strong skater. Give the swap more time, I'm pretty sure its a good idea. Monahan is a decent set up guy so he should help CC and NS get more points. Guhle is a really good skater. He has a decent shot too. In contrast Harris almost scored, but so far I haven't been impressed with his shot. However, I do enjoy the mayhem that usually ensues after his shot gets easily blocked and a Habs gets the puck down low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Ugh. No one covering Malkin? Again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Ugh. No one covering Malkin? Again? Somewhat like certain wide receivers in football ... some great scorers have the knack for "finding the seam," so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 A lot of rebounds are ending up about 3-5 feet from the front of Pittsburgh's net. There's never anyone there to get it. Also, that penalty call on Xhekaj was weak at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: Dadanov is looking at option B right now if he doesn't improve. Getting sent to Laval. It's not something that will happen right away, but if he doesn't improve, I could see at the 15 game mark it could be a possibility. Montreal clears just over $1m off their cap hit, $2.5m if he gets claimed. If someone claimed Dadonov (which won't happen because of the contract), the entire cap hit would be removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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