KoZed Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) Basically what Gainey said is that Carbo is coming back as an "coach associate" with the garantee of starting next season as the head-coach. I think its great. Carbo is a born coach. It was clear 15 years ago when he was a player and its obvious now. Edited January 14, 2006 by KoZed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) My prayer must have been heard. I've been hoping Carbonneau would be coach for sometime now. I'm not kidding, watch out - HERE COME THE HABS! If you don't believe me, just think back to 2001-02. Carbonneau was the assistant and Therrien was the coach. Does anyone in this forum remember how good they played without the puck? I know Carbo won't start but having Gainey in charge is fine by me. Between Carbonneau, Gainey and Jarvis, our present coaching staff has 9 Selkes on it - hahahaHABS! Hopefully Julien gets a job - I'm not going to blame him. He's a good coach. Edited January 14, 2006 by ATHLÉTIQUE.CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smon Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 They had a tremendous penalty kill then with Dackell and Juneau thanks to Carbonneau. I hope that Bonk and Sundstrom can emulate that success. I don't know where Julien will end up. I think he might go the Therrien route, in that he becomes an AHL coach for a while before getting a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombTHEice Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Carbo as the head coach, sounds great!!! Meeh, I only hope this will change the team ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) Guy! Guy! Guy! This is a very exciting time. In retrospect, this team has lots of talent to offer and Julien just couldn't get the team to meld properly. Having Carbo, Gainey and Jarvis behind the bench combines some of the most intelligent players to ever play the game behind a single bench. I'm predicting major improvements in faceoff % and the penalty kill. Hopefully the PP can pick it up too. I am now very much looking forward to the second half of the season. GO HABS GO. Edited January 14, 2006 by zumpano21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Yeah let’s start the Guy Guy Guy chants tonight, hopefully the Habs can come out flying tonight. I would wish for nothing more then to hear 3 continuous chants for the remainder of the season Guy Guy Guy, Bob Bob Bob, and Theo Theo Theo. Go Habs Go lets get on a role and play some fire wagon hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Who would have thought that my avatar would prove so prophetic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 carbonneau was my favourite player at the time. he was class. i hope that what i saw will continue with him as a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsterr Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 (edited) Before I talk about Carbo and want to make it clear I am 100% behind the change of coach. This has been in the cards for a while now and Gainey is correct in making the change rather than imploding a whole team. I truly believe they have a very good core. But, I am of two minds re: Carbo. Yes he was a premier defensive player. Yes he was good at faceoffs, blocking shots, PK. Yes he was a leader. And he can teach all that. But he seemed, at least to me, to be a prima donna. He would stand next to the goalie before the game and wait, like a king for his subjects to come and bow before him and kiss his hand, for the players to ritually come over to the goalie and him for a stick touching of some sort. With all this in mind, I am worried as to how good a coach he really will be. Yes he has worked as an assistant but that's all. Can he control a whole team? All the responsibilities that go with it? Will he blow his top ala Therrien and lose his players? Does he have a game plan that helps the offense? Will he be a prima donna coach? We'll find out next year. Edited January 15, 2006 by Habsterr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathieu30 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Here's a quote I found in my "Gazette archives": "Character. I'd like to take every guy aside and explain to them what it means to give it all you've got to a team at this time of the season, why it's so important to have character. If you don't have it, and you're in our position (15 points behind the last available playoff position with 13 games left), it reaches the point where 'It's not me' or 'It's not my fault' or 'It was the other guy'. I'd like to tell the guys that you can't fool anybody in the league today." - Guy Carbonneau, Montreal Gazette, 12/03/2001 Gotta love Guy! :hlogo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hab4life Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Before I talk about Carbo and want to make it clear I am 100% behind the change of coach. This has been in the cards for a while now and Gainey is correct in making the change rather than imploding a whole team. I truly believe they have a very good core. But, I am of two minds re: Carbo. Yes he was a premier defensive player. Yes he was good at faceoffs, blocking shots, PK. Yes he was a leader. And he can teach all that. But he seemed, at least to me, to be a prima donna. He would stand next to the goalie before the game and wait, like a king for his subjects to come and bow before him and kiss his hand, for the players to ritually come over to the goalie and him for a stick touching of some sort. With all this in mind, I am worried as to how good a coach he really will be. Yes he has worked as an assistant but that's all. Can he control a whole team? All the responsibilities that go with it? Will he blow his top ala Therrien and lose his players? Does he have a game plan that helps the offense? Will he be a prima donna coach? We'll find out next year. So you think he's a prima donna because he does some stick ritual with his team before a game? You know some players are some what superstitious? Others do it because it builds team unity. If you don't realize it, then you obviously never watched the habs play in the early 90's when they use to do stuff like that all the time. And if you do realize it, then my next question is... What the hell is wrong with your brain? I for one love the fact that Carbo is going to be the coach. One thing we have been really bad in is the PK and PP. I think he will be able to correct alot of the problems as well as use his assistant coach experience and be able to run the team as a head coach next year. If anyone would know what kind of a coach Carbo could be, Gainey would be that man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Correct me if I'm wrong but a bunch of years ago montreal was in a play-off series while Demers I think was coaching.......or it was some drought the habs were in. Carbo was playing and team captain at the time. In a desperate time of trouble he took the coach aside and suggested some line changes and game plan issues................it took the team out of it's funk and it was descrided as The big turn around in the season/series/game in the press. Does anyone remember this?...........Please refresh my memory My point is Carbo is a stand up guy....... and Leader. I'm sure his ideas will help this club, and help them become stanley cup champions sooner then you think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsterr Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 (edited) How old are you Hab4life? Six? Edited January 15, 2006 by Habsterr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Here is some reading for everyone to get excited about our new coach......... http://www.livingbeyondreality.com/GCCarbosWisdom.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komisarek the Cruncher Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Before I talk about Carbo and want to make it clear I am 100% behind the change of coach. This has been in the cards for a while now and Gainey is correct in making the change rather than imploding a whole team. I truly believe they have a very good core. But, I am of two minds re: Carbo. Yes he was a premier defensive player. Yes he was good at faceoffs, blocking shots, PK. Yes he was a leader. And he can teach all that. But he seemed, at least to me, to be a prima donna. He would stand next to the goalie before the game and wait, like a king for his subjects to come and bow before him and kiss his hand, for the players to ritually come over to the goalie and him for a stick touching of some sort. With all this in mind, I am worried as to how good a coach he really will be. Yes he has worked as an assistant but that's all. Can he control a whole team? All the responsibilities that go with it? Will he blow his top ala Therrien and lose his players? Does he have a game plan that helps the offense? Will he be a prima donna coach? We'll find out next year. Prima donna? What the hell are you talking about? The guy was our captain and a real one, not like Koivu. He would rally the troops and not allow clicks in the dressing room like Koivu has allowed. Is having character being a prima donna? Love Koivu for his work ethic, but he's not a great captain. A captain he's someone that can stand up and shake guys up. The Habs unity and chemistry has never looked great under Koivu's captaincy. Complete opposite under Carbo's captaincy. I'm sure he will be a great coach. Exactly what we needed. A guy with NHL experience. All the previous guys where rookies with no respect from the players. Also, he won't be afraid to say and do things the way he wants. He knows Montreal, its pressure and media very well and won't be afraid to put guys in the stands. Carbo was a guy with great hockey sens who knows the game very well, so I think he will be a great coach for us. Don't forget that a coach in Montreal has to be bilingual. Personnaly, I don't care and would take an anglophone as long as he's competent, but it's a fact and reality, so name me another guy that would be better then Carbo?? Forget these QMJHL coaches that don't have NHL experienece has a player and/or has an assistant coach in the NHL, we have proven in the past 10 years that they are worthless. We have bad apples in the locker room and Gainey and Carbo will flush'em out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathieu30 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 (edited) Here is some reading for everyone to get excited about our new coach......... http://www.livingbeyondreality.com/GCCarbosWisdom.html Thanks HABBER-oooooKNOWS. "Where he means so much to us is when we’re on a slide. He takes over on the ice and in the dressing room, and gets us to where we’d like to be. You can’t buy that kind of leadership." —Dallas Coach Ken Hitchcock Gotta love Guy! :hlogo: Edited January 15, 2006 by mathieu30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Before I talk about Carbo and want to make it clear I am 100% behind the change of coach. This has been in the cards for a while now and Gainey is correct in making the change rather than imploding a whole team. I truly believe they have a very good core. But, I am of two minds re: Carbo. Yes he was a premier defensive player. Yes he was good at faceoffs, blocking shots, PK. Yes he was a leader. And he can teach all that. But he seemed, at least to me, to be a prima donna. He would stand next to the goalie before the game and wait, like a king for his subjects to come and bow before him and kiss his hand, for the players to ritually come over to the goalie and him for a stick touching of some sort. With all this in mind, I am worried as to how good a coach he really will be. Yes he has worked as an assistant but that's all. Can he control a whole team? All the responsibilities that go with it? Will he blow his top ala Therrien and lose his players? Does he have a game plan that helps the offense? Will he be a prima donna coach? We'll find out next year. You don't have to wait for next year, just ask jacques Demers eight years ago! And to think just a few months ago Carbonneau was contemplating retirement to try his hand at coaching. Jacques Demers, his former coach in Montreal when the Canadiens won the Stanley Cup in 1993, has asked Carbonneau to become his assistant in Tampa Bay. "I think Guy Carbonneau can make me a better coach," said Demers, paying his former captain the ultimate compliment. And that’s from a guy who has two Jack Adams trophies as the NHL’s coach of the year to go with his Stanley Cup ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathieu30 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 So if they're calling Carbonneau the ObiWan of Hockey, does that make Gainey Yoda? Know what to make of this I do not :hlogo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 So if they're calling Carbonneau the ObiWan of Hockey, does that make Gainey Yoda? Know what to make of this I do not :hlogo: HAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!! Nice one. And it's truer than you think. I recall watching a CBC special, years ago in the late 80s, called 'Home Game' (narrated by Ken Dryden) that went into the Habs' dressing room during a game against Edmonton. One scene showed Gainey, then Habs' captain, taking aside Carbo with a little diagram and explaining a play to him ('the next this happens, bank the puck along the boards...and I'm there'). You could just see Carbonneau absorbing every single word this great habs was telling him, learning, learning - and eventually, HE became the last of the Habs' great leaders/defensive specialists. And if you look at Carbo's career, he has basically followed Bob around, to Dallas and now Montreal, etc.. Yoda indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 The best I can add to this is that Carbonneau has taken a long and studied route to the position. He's not a player fresh out of his skates into the coaching role. Also, he's not a guy who's a coach who never really played the game. He's not a person with related skills in another area of endeavours who's expected to put those skills in this new context. I expect that he'll do fine. He's not a prima donna, so far as I've seen. He seems to be of a similar character as Gainey's. Quiet, thoughtful, deliberate and confident. He'll do fine. :king: :hlogo: :king: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathieu30 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 "He was good in the locker-room. Between periods, you always knew what was wrong with our game. Whatever happened on the ice, he knew what to do right away. He could analyze the game pretty fast and quick." -Jere Lehtinen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mont Royale Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Here is some reading for everyone to get excited about our new coach......... http://www.livingbeyondreality.com/GCCarbosWisdom.html Thank you HABBER... it worked like a charm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoRvInA Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Thank you HABBER... it worked like a charm. Oh MAn I Know I know Reading about it though was almost Hard On Material! :hlogo: Gainey must have been thinking about getting Carb for some time now! and How he must have sweet talked Dallas in agreeing to let him go and also Guy to leave a Cup contender in Dallas must have been Some PA tactic only to grand and precise to describe This might very well be Gainey's Biggest move to date! and the future will tell us if it's a dawning era of Habs history! Feeling proud to be a habs fan right now its something other fans cannot comprehend its too BIG for them to even ponder!! LETS GO LES BOYS LETS GO The Ghosts of The Forum are on the bus now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathieu30 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 «Carbonneau, fait pour Montréal» « Guy connaît la pression à Montréal. Je ne crois pas que n'importe qui peut diriger une organisation aussi prestigieuse. Pour "Carbo", je n'ai pas d'inquiétude, car il possède le charisme et le leadership nécessaire pour y parvenir. » « Avec lui, il n'y a pas de mensonge. C'est un gars très honnête et il exigera la même chose de ses joueurs. Il va également réussir à inculquer une bonne notion d'équipe en confiant aux gars des rôles précis. » - Stephane Robidas Gotta love Guy. http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/hockey/2...das-carbo.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehabbit Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 you could always count on Carbo in a tough situation on the ice, it will be no different behind the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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