Commandant Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 There have been lots of people saying they love Demidov. I haven't heard the same on Lindstrom. I haven't heard they don't like him either... but there just hasn't been credible reporting on the interest or lack thereof. Demidov is the clear one they have their eyes on if they move up, from all I've heard. They see him in a totally different light to Michkov. They like Demidov's compete levels at both ends and attitude way more than they did with Michkov. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Craig Button's new Top 20: 1. Celebrini 2. Demidov 3. Helenius 4. Iginla 5. Parekh 6. Buium 7. Levshunov 8. Dickinson 9. Eiserman 10. Lindstrom 11. Yakemchuk 12. Sennecke 13. Parascak 14. Catton 15. Solberg 16. Silayev 17. Emery 18. Brandsegg-Nygard 19. Miettinen 20. Luchanko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 55 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Craig Button's new Top 20: 1. Celebrini 2. Demidov 3. Helenius 4. Iginla 5. Parekh 6. Buium 7. Levshunov 8. Dickinson 9. Eiserman 10. Lindstrom 11. Yakemchuk 12. Sennecke 13. Parascak 14. Catton 15. Solberg 16. Silayev 17. Emery 18. Brandsegg-Nygard 19. Miettinen 20. Luchanko Somehow strikes me as somewhat click-bait-ish ... bound to get LOTS of attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 7 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Somehow strikes me as somewhat click-bait-ish ... bound to get LOTS of attention. Yeah there are some “scandalous” picks there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Craig is always different from consensus, but if you look at a real NHL scouts individual lists, they are closer to Craig than to consensus. Also Helenius at 3 gets a thumbs up from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 I've said it before, I'm as convinced on Helenius as I was on Quinn Hughes. He's gonna make it big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 7 minutes ago, Commandant said: I've said it before, I'm as convinced on Helenius as I was on Quinn Hughes. He's gonna make it big. Would you pick Helenius before Lindstrom? But after Demidov? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 5 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: It's fun to project/guess who the Habs may take at 5, likely a forward, however that will be dependent on who the teams drafting before them take (Captain Obvious statement). It seems to me that if there is a forward they really want to get (ie Demidov or Lindstrom) then Anaheim is the obvious partner if they want to trade up. Of course, as we have noted, those trades are a rare occurrence. In the Wheeler/Pronman projection, they think that each of the Chicago, Anaheim and Columbus would choose a D-man (Levshunov, Silayov and Dickinson, respectively), that's how they saw Demidov (and Lindstrom) being available to the Habs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 59 minutes ago, tomh009 said: In the Wheeler/Pronman projection, they think that each of the Chicago, Anaheim and Columbus would choose a D-man (Levshunov, Silayov and Dickinson, respectively), that's how they saw Demidov (and Lindstrom) being available to the Habs. Should be interesting, next thing is the NHL combine in couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 Very interesting, are Button and Commandant the same person?? Both love Helenius. I really like Iginla too, Habs will get a good forward. Craig’s List: Konsta Helenius, Tij Iginla push into top five | TSN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: Would you pick Helenius before Lindstrom? But after Demidov? Personally he's #2 on my list but its close with Demidov and can see why most have him 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 Also interesting that Button has Lindstrom at 10, Catton at 14 and Silayev at 16. That's the lowest I have seen those guys. It's going to be a crazy draft, would love to have another top 15 pick but I can see why teams would not want to give up a top 15 pick without an overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 I would guess SJ or Chicago might trade their 2nd pick? Or perhaps someone in the 15-19 range, could use another pick and young d-man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 6 hours ago, DON said: I would guess SJ or Chicago might trade their 2nd pick? Or perhaps someone in the 15-19 range, could use another pick and young d-man? Not sure why - particularly SJS at 16 - they are both pretty much at the start of a rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Would Hughes take Demidov over Lindstrom? Would be nice if do have that choice at least. NHL mock draft 2024: Predicting all 65 picks of the first two rounds with Pronman and Wheeler - The Athletic (nytimes.com) 5. Montreal Canadiens (Pick by Wheeler): Ivan Demidov, RW, SKA St. Petersburg With a young group of D coming, and a year after taking one at No. 5, the Habs jump on the second-best forward in the class and grab the potential game-breaker they need. 6. Utah (Pick by Pronman): Cayden Lindstrom, C, Medicine Hat Utah adds a dynamic skating forward with size and bite in Lindstrom who can score goals as well. He could make a great complement one day to Logan Cooley down the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Everything Im hearing is that Hughes wants Demidov above anyone not named Celebrini 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2024 at 1:16 PM, DON said: I would guess SJ or Chicago might trade their 2nd pick? Technically, you guessed right on Chicago. They just traded up to 18 in an odd pre-draft pick swap with the Islanders (18 and 50 for 20, 54, and 61). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 How much farther ahead is Chicago by doing this and without knowing who is still on the board after the 17th pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 The only thing that I am ready to predict with confidence is that after the first 2-4 picks EVERY general manager will say some version of "We were pleasantly surprised he was still available at <insert pick number>, we had him higher on our list". BTW: with the apparent lack of consensus in the top half of the draft, THIS YEAR it may actually be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: Technically, you guessed right on Chicago. They just traded up to 18 in an odd pre-draft pick swap with the Islanders (18 and 50 for 20, 54, and 61). 50 minutes ago, DON said: How much farther ahead is Chicago by doing this and without knowing who is still on the board after the 17th pick? What an odd trade at an odd time. Im scratching my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 51 minutes ago, DON said: How much farther ahead is Chicago by doing this and without knowing who is still on the board after the 17th pick? They move up 2 in the first and 4 in the second for the cost of 61. Seems fair value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Timing is weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 12 minutes ago, GHT120 said: The only thing that I am ready to predict with confidence is that after the first 2-4 picks EVERY general manager will say some version of "We were pleasantly surprised he was still available at <insert pick number>, we had him higher on our list". You can almost guarantee that will happen. The old "we didn't think he would be available" happens every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 9 minutes ago, Commandant said: Timing is weird The timing is weird, maybe the start of more deals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 8 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: The timing is weird, maybe the start of more deals? I'm half expecting the Islanders to flip one of those second-rounders for a player, effectively getting the player for slightly moving down in the first and second rounds, allowing them to get a piece to help now without hurting their weak prospect pool any further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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