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This org stills needs top-pairing-quality young D. Even Guhle has not clearly established himself as being at that level. So, although he wasn't a sexy pick, this kid is an important piece. Here's hoping he makes the jump to Laval and flourishes.

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36 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

This org stills needs top-pairing-quality young D. Even Guhle has not clearly established himself as being at that level. So, although he wasn't a sexy pick, this kid is an important piece. Here's hoping he makes the jump to Laval and flourishes.

Quite right. No one has yet confirmed that he can be a top-pairing D. Guhle has that potential, and arguably Reinbacher and Hutson do, too, but it'll take some time before we know whether any of them can play at that level. Others (such as Engstrom, Mailloux, Barron and Xhekaj) are more likely to have second-pairing ceilings, but they aren't proven yet, either.

 

Overall, I am very optimistic about our D prospects but they are still very, very young on the typical D development timescale.

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2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

This org stills needs top-pairing-quality young D. Even Guhle has not clearly established himself as being at that level. So, although he wasn't a sexy pick, this kid is an important piece. Here's hoping he makes the jump to Laval and flourishes.


Yeah I agree about Guhle. 
 

Playing on his offside isn’t helping but I think Guhle needs to put on some muscle. He gets manhandled quite a bit. 
 

After reading the scouting on Reinbacker and his style, I wonder if Guhle (back on the left side) might be the perfect partner. 

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27 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

After reading the scouting on Reinbacker and his style, I wonder if Guhle (back on the left side) might be the perfect partner. 

Hutson played with him last summer and that would also be an intriguing pair.

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38 minutes ago, DON said:

Hutson played with him last summer and that would also be an intriguing pair.

Hutson-Reinbacher and Guhle-Mailloux. Hopefully!

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3 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

Hutson-Reinbacher and Guhle-Mailloux. Hopefully!

 

and Xhekaj-Baron

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41 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:

and Xhekaj-Baron

By 26/27 Bogdan Konyushkov will be coming over ... not certain Barron lasts that long ... he just doesn't inspire confidence in me.

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8 hours ago, GHT120 said:

By 26/27 Bogdan Konyushkov will be coming over ... not certain Barron lasts that long ... he just doesn't inspire confidence in me.

As a 3rd pairing RD, I have no problem with Barron.

He can buy time for Bogdan to adapt to North-American hockey

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50 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:

As a 3rd pairing RD, I have no problem with Barron.

He can buy time for Bogdan to adapt to North-American hockey

If Hughes is confident about Konyushkov he might yet trade Barron, who would likely bring a greater return than Kovacevic.

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1 hour ago, tomh009 said:

If Hughes is confident about Konyushkov he might yet trade Barron, who would likely bring a greater return than Kovacevic.

Konyushkov is still a couple of seasons away ... my BOLD PREDICTION is that if Savard gets traded at the 24/25 deadline he is replaced, be it "immediately" (not necessarily in the same trade) or for 25/26, by a veteran 3rd pairing defenceman with an AAV appropriate to that role ... that COULD even mean not trading Savard and his accepting a short-term, lower AAV extension ... either way, I don't see Barron as part of the future.

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I doubt HughGort trades Barron, like Smyalic and Heineman, these are the guys he traded for. I think they will be patient with these guys.

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Martiineau is with TVA Sports ... he spoke with three players who played against Reinbacher this season (Google translate, minimal editing):

 

GREATEST ASSET:
 

Maxim Noreau

His hockey sense is very good. I would even say that he is above average for guys drafted in this stage of the draft. I saw him make very effective zone exits. He is also very smart in his decisions made in the heat of the moment. He never does anything for no reason. He will make a small, subtle maneuver with his body to help a teammate. He doesn’t panic and prefers to keep the puck than get rid of it.

 

He can draw an attacker towards him in the neutral zone before giving the puck to his partner. And thanks to that, he has just created a three against two. He won't make spectacular lift passes or plays like that. But it will allow Caufield and Suzuki to have the puck quickly and ultimately, that’s what you want.

 

Guillaume Asselin: His speed, his mobility. Without a doubt. He is very difficult to beat one on one for an attacker.

 

Marc-Antoine Pouliot: He skates very, very well. He is very powerful. I've been playing in Switzerland for 12 years and a 19-year-old defenseman like him, in terms of the skating power/size combination, is extremely rare.

 

 

OFFENCE:

 

Asselin: I find that his ability to break free in offensive territory is underestimated. He knows how to make himself available without attracting attention. If you put him in a junior league, he'll give you 70 points. Hence the importance of taking some and leaving some with the numbers. He's not a Cale Makar, but I read some comments about him and it's completely false to say that he's only defensive.

 

Pouliot: His mobility in enemy territory helps him a lot. He also has a shot that hits the net consistently. His team is doing a lot offensively. I wouldn't rely on his stats, personally.

 

Noreau: Currently, in Kloten, he is playing with worse players than elsewhere in the league. This is the strict truth. Often, he makes a high-quality zone exit.  But he doesn’t even have time to press the attack when the puck is back in his territory. 

 

If you put Reinbacher on a team where the forwards are good, he will get the puck to them when leaving the zone and allow them to attack the offensive territory with speed. That’s also offence. Without being spectacular, he will still collect his share of points.

 

 

DEFENCE:

 

Asselin: He can hardly be beaten in speed. His gap [distance control] is very good. He never gives you space one on one. He has a great stick. He is very intelligent in the way he positions himself on the ice. Honestly, he's not a defender you like to face. It's not fun playing against him! And I tell you this knowing full well that he is only 19 years old. He does this despite his young age and while playing in one of the best leagues in the world against men. It’s big, to be honest.
 

There are a few Quebecers on the team and obviously, we sometimes talk about Reinbacher, because we know that he belongs to the Canadiens. And everyone agrees that he is strong and very difficult to beat. Often, when you know a guy his age is on the other team, you know you're going to be able to have fun. But with him it’s quite the opposite. His defensive game is very strong.

 

Pouliot: I faced him several times this season and every match I had to face him, I felt like I was facing a man. His head moves a lot and he is turned on in his territory. He makes me feel like he's already 30.

 

 

NEEDS TO DEVELOP:

 

Noreau: I would say he's going to have to work on his battles for the puck, whether it's in a melee or with his stick. He's smart, but he's not the nastiest in the corners. Winning pucks in duels is very important. I also think he could be more mobile and hungry in the offensive zone, but that will come with coaching, in my opinion.

 

Asselin: I would like to see him trust his offensive skills more in the offensive zone; be less conservative, more daring at times. He has more in him offensively than his decisions with the puck demonstrate.

 

 

COMPARABLES:

 

Noreau: Honestly, style-wise, he reminds me of Devon Toews. He is not flashy, he skates where there is space and does not try to outsmart opponents. At the end of the day, Toews, everyone puts him in the category of very good defender, but when you look at his game, there is absolutely nothing special about it. It’s the simplicity and good decisions that make it so good. Devon Toews is a gem for a coach. You can use it for 25 minutes anywhere and you know it’s going to do the job.
 

I'm not saying that David Reinbacher, even at his peak, will be in the top 5 of best scorers among defensemen. But will CH fans really be disappointed to have a defender like Devon Toews on their team? To be at his best, a Cale Makar needs a Devon Toews.

 

Asselin: The first name that comes to mind is Alex Pietrangelo. He is complete. He is not all offensive or all defensive. He skates well. He's the type of guy who helps you win. Reinbacher doesn't have an eye-catching style like Lane Hutson's, but he will still have great use for Montreal. He will play on the second unit powerplay and on the first unit penalty-kill. He will play between 24 and 27 minutes per game and will be matched to the best opponents.

To win Stanley Cups, you need players like him. Champion teams often rely on big defenders who skate well. And Reinbacher is exactly that.

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44 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

Martiineau is with TVA Sports ... he spoke with three players who played against Reinbacher this season (Google translate, minimal editing):

 

GREATEST ASSET:
 

Maxim Noreau

His hockey sense is very good. I would even say that he is above average for guys drafted in this stage of the draft. I saw him make very effective zone exits. He is also very smart in his decisions made in the heat of the moment. He never does anything for no reason. He will make a small, subtle maneuver with his body to help a teammate. He doesn’t panic and prefers to keep the puck than get rid of it.

 

He can draw an attacker towards him in the neutral zone before giving the puck to his partner. And thanks to that, he has just created a three against two. He won't make spectacular lift passes or plays like that. But it will allow Caufield and Suzuki to have the puck quickly and ultimately, that’s what you want.

 

Guillaume Asselin: His speed, his mobility. Without a doubt. He is very difficult to beat one on one for an attacker.

 

Marc-Antoine Pouliot: He skates very, very well. He is very powerful. I've been playing in Switzerland for 12 years and a 19-year-old defenseman like him, in terms of the skating power/size combination, is extremely rare.

 

 

OFFENCE:

 

Asselin: I find that his ability to break free in offensive territory is underestimated. He knows how to make himself available without attracting attention. If you put him in a junior league, he'll give you 70 points. Hence the importance of taking some and leaving some with the numbers. He's not a Cale Makar, but I read some comments about him and it's completely false to say that he's only defensive.

 

Pouliot: His mobility in enemy territory helps him a lot. He also has a shot that hits the net consistently. His team is doing a lot offensively. I wouldn't rely on his stats, personally.

 

Noreau: Currently, in Kloten, he is playing with worse players than elsewhere in the league. This is the strict truth. Often, he makes a high-quality zone exit.  But he doesn’t even have time to press the attack when the puck is back in his territory. 

 

If you put Reinbacher on a team where the forwards are good, he will get the puck to them when leaving the zone and allow them to attack the offensive territory with speed. That’s also offence. Without being spectacular, he will still collect his share of points.

 

 

DEFENCE:

 

Asselin: He can hardly be beaten in speed. His gap [distance control] is very good. He never gives you space one on one. He has a great stick. He is very intelligent in the way he positions himself on the ice. Honestly, he's not a defender you like to face. It's not fun playing against him! And I tell you this knowing full well that he is only 19 years old. He does this despite his young age and while playing in one of the best leagues in the world against men. It’s big, to be honest.
 

There are a few Quebecers on the team and obviously, we sometimes talk about Reinbacher, because we know that he belongs to the Canadiens. And everyone agrees that he is strong and very difficult to beat. Often, when you know a guy his age is on the other team, you know you're going to be able to have fun. But with him it’s quite the opposite. His defensive game is very strong.

 

Pouliot: I faced him several times this season and every match I had to face him, I felt like I was facing a man. His head moves a lot and he is turned on in his territory. He makes me feel like he's already 30.

 

 

NEEDS TO DEVELOP:

 

Noreau: I would say he's going to have to work on his battles for the puck, whether it's in a melee or with his stick. He's smart, but he's not the nastiest in the corners. Winning pucks in duels is very important. I also think he could be more mobile and hungry in the offensive zone, but that will come with coaching, in my opinion.

 

Asselin: I would like to see him trust his offensive skills more in the offensive zone; be less conservative, more daring at times. He has more in him offensively than his decisions with the puck demonstrate.

 

 

COMPARABLES:

 

Noreau: Honestly, style-wise, he reminds me of Devon Toews. He is not flashy, he skates where there is space and does not try to outsmart opponents. At the end of the day, Toews, everyone puts him in the category of very good defender, but when you look at his game, there is absolutely nothing special about it. It’s the simplicity and good decisions that make it so good. Devon Toews is a gem for a coach. You can use it for 25 minutes anywhere and you know it’s going to do the job.
 

I'm not saying that David Reinbacher, even at his peak, will be in the top 5 of best scorers among defensemen. But will CH fans really be disappointed to have a defender like Devon Toews on their team? To be at his best, a Cale Makar needs a Devon Toews.

 

Asselin: The first name that comes to mind is Alex Pietrangelo. He is complete. He is not all offensive or all defensive. He skates well. He's the type of guy who helps you win. Reinbacher doesn't have an eye-catching style like Lane Hutson's, but he will still have great use for Montreal. He will play on the second unit powerplay and on the first unit penalty-kill. He will play between 24 and 27 minutes per game and will be matched to the best opponents.

To win Stanley Cups, you need players like him. Champion teams often rely on big defenders who skate well. And Reinbacher is exactly that.


I don’t know how you can read that and not get aroused. 🍆🍆🍆

 

Hutson - Reinbacker could be amazing. 
 

Xhekaj- Reinbacker might be league leading if Xhekaj hones his shot and Reinbacker turn into the player described in the article. Sounds like Reinbacker is a gentleman player and Xhekaj can fill that void. 
 

Guhle - Reinbacker could be good too. Guhle has good tools in all areas of the ice and battles like a savage on the boards. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said:

I doubt HughGort trades Barron, like Smyalic and Heineman, these are the guys he traded for. I think they will be patient with these guys.

I feel pretty confident that Hughes will make the right trades and not get unduly attached to players even if he picked or traded for them himself. If you can make the team better by trading, you do it, even if you are sending out a player that you like.

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That is a good nickname 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Hutson - Reinbacker could be amazing. 
 

Xhekaj- Reinbacker might be league leading if Xhekaj hones his shot and Reinbacker turn into the player described in the article. Sounds like Reinbacker is a gentleman player and Xhekaj can fill that void. 

 

I'm somewhat thinking Hutson and Mailloux could be a good pairing and Reinbacher with WiFi or Guhle.

 

On 3/18/2024 at 7:45 PM, Prime Minister Koivu said:


I think Guhle needs to put on some muscle. He gets manhandled quite a bit. 
 

 

 

I agree, he is somewhat weak for his size.   Harris needs to add way more muscle and that's an issue with Matheson too.  They should all stay at Arber's over the summer so his mom can teach them how to workout.  

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On 3/18/2024 at 9:58 PM, alfredoh2009 said:

 

and Xhekaj-Baron

Terrible idea. Baron is no good and will be even less room for him than there is now.

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