2024-25 NHL discussion thread

[Commandant]

Just now, dlbalr said:

 

Yes, of course it would only be pending the NTC.  It sounds like he has a few options to choose from in terms of where to go or he can take his chances with waivers.  I suspect we'll find out soon what route he takes.

 

I think the question is, is he scared of San Jose or some other far away team making a claim and waives for someone close to New York, or takes his chances that he will be in Hartford.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

1 hour ago, GHT120 said:

 

 

If he doesn't report he gets suspended ... no salary ... THAT might convince him to waive his NTC and/ or agree to report to a non-NTC team of his choosing and net some assets.

 

Now if he does report, he is likely the best RHD on the team for the next two seasons (not necessarily a high bar), and would make it easier to trade Savard as soon as an acceptable offer comes along ... he would chew up a big chunk of next season's cap space, but the Habs don't have any critical free agents to re-sign ... and, if necessary Price could likely be traded next July after his "signing bonus is paid (leaving only $2M in real salary for the new team/owners to pay) at a not unreasonable "price" to a team with cap space.

 

Sooooo .... *** IF *** HuGo decided to go that route I would be OK with it.

 

Trouba is NOT worth 8M/year anymore even if he wanted to play in Montreal. I watched a lot of the Carolina/Rangers series last year and thought he was awful. Over rated because he is a big hitter. A hard NO!

[Prime Minister Koivu]

 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

3 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

 

 

That frees up some cap space for the Rangers. Not their last deal. 

[Helmethead]

1 minute ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

That frees up some cap space for the Rangers. Not their last deal. 

 

Allows them to make more talent for talent trades.

 

I appreciate a good rumor mill in December.

[Commandant]

They need a RHD now.  Start the Savard rumour mill.

[GHT120]

40 minutes ago, Commandant said:

They need a RHD now.  Start the Savard rumour mill.

Lafreniere, nothing less ... 😜

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

43 minutes ago, Commandant said:

They need a RHD now.  Start the Savard rumour mill.

 

The Rangers are in win now mode. Something is going to happen. 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

1 minute ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

The Rangers are in win now mode. Something is going to happen. 

Please be Anderson 🎉

 

I keep seeing rumours about Brady Tkachuk but I can’t imagine the deal involved in getting that done 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

I don't expect the Rangers to sit on the cap space they gained for long, wouldn't be surprised to see another deal shortly. 

[GHT120]

4 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Please be Anderson 🎉

 

I keep seeing rumours about Brady Tkachuk but I can’t imagine the deal involved in getting that done 

Staios responded by saying they are building around Tkachuk ... seems like a pretty specific and forceful denial ... I actually tend to believe it (I usually take such "team statements" with a box of salt) ... of course there is the possibility that Staios is trying to play the Rangers.

[Prime Minister Koivu]

6 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

Staios responded by saying they are building around Tkachuk ... seems like a pretty specific and forceful denial ... I actually tend to believe it (I usually take such "team statements" with a box of salt) ... of course there is the possibility that Staios is trying to play the Rangers.

Brady is a franchise core piece for Ottawa. I can’t see a way to get the deal done. 
 

It won’t happen 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

I guess the possibility exists that Tkachuk quietly asked for a trade.

 

 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

From a fan living with the fallout of Price’s contract - the cap implications when he was playing and his LTIR management, along with Price’s incredible performance…

 

I'm curious how this turns out long term. 

[GHT120]

This seems to have passed under the radar ...
 

Chicago Blackhawks General Manager Kyle Davidson announced today that the team has relieved Luke Richardson of his duties as head coach. Rockford IceHogs head coach Anders Sorensen has been named interim head coach and will assume duties immediately.

[DON]

Michkov gets his 10th in the 1st period vs Bruins; 23 points in his 24+games.

Michkov 2g(10,11) in 1st period vs Bruins  11g 24pts in his 25th game

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

16 minutes ago, DON said:

Michkov gets his 10th in the 1st period vs Bruins; 23 points in his 24+games.

Michkov 2g(10,11) in 1st period vs Bruins  11g 24pts in his 25th game

 Looks like a huge miss by HuGo. 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

53 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 Looks like a huge miss by HuGo. 

Poor Reinbacher will be measured by Michkov for his entire career. 
 

The only way this story turns out in Montreal’s favour is if Reinbacher plays at a very high level. 
 

Anything else would be a bust

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

8 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Poor Reinbacher will be measured by Michkov for his entire career. 
 

The only way this story turns out in Montreal’s favour is if Reinbacher plays at a very high level. 
 

Anything else would be a bust

 

Yep. It's just a fact. They deliberately avoided the high-ceiling, high-risk pick and took a 'safe' player instead. Ironically, that risk-avoidance had its own risk: i.e., that Michkov would be the real deal. I don't think Montreal fans will hold it against Reinbacher, but they very likely will hold it against HuGo, and that will be entirely fair.

[tomh009]

20 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

Yep. It's just a fact. They deliberately avoided the high-ceiling, high-risk pick and took a 'safe' player instead. Ironically, that risk-avoidance had its own risk: i.e., that Michkov would be the real deal. I don't think Montreal fans will hold it against Reinbacher, but they very likely will hold it against HuGo, and that will be entirely fair.

It's worth noting that six teams passed on him, not only the Habs.

 

And it has been reported that he was not willing to play for Montreal ...

[Lanes World]

Let’s just keep telling ourselves he didn’t want to play for Montreal🤥

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

20 hours ago, tomh009 said:

It's worth noting that six teams passed on him, not only the Habs.

 

And it has been reported that he was not willing to play for Montreal ...

 

'Reported.' Meh. 

 

Those other six teams may also have made a mistake; well, five of them, anyway. It's like all the idiots that let Caufield slide down to #15. They were wrong to do so and have been proven wrong. Any anyone drafting around 10-15 probably is kicking themselves.

 

Bottom line is, we could have had Michkov - we knew he was likely to land around #5 - and we consciously and deliberately chose the lower-risk, lower-ceiling option.

 

Now listen, if Reinbacher goes on to be a 25-minute-per-night stud defenceman on a contending team, then that's fine.

 

If he just becomes a 'pretty good' D-man while Michkov becomes an elite producer, they blew it. Period.  

[hab29RETIRED]

34 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 

'Reported.' Meh. 

 

Those other six teams may also have made a mistake; well, five of them, anyway. It's like all the idiots that let Caufield slide down to #15. They were wrong to do so and have been proven wrong. Any anyone drafting around 10-15 probably is kicking themselves.

 

Bottom line is, we could have had Michkov - we knew he was likely to land around #5 - and we consciously and deliberately chose the lower-risk, lower-ceiling option.

 

Now listen, if Reinbacher goes on to be a 25-minute-per-night stud defenceman on a contending team, then that's fine.

 

If he just becomes a 'pretty good' D-man while Michkov becomes an elite producer, they blew it. Period.  

The only time I read he reportedly didn't want to play for was Phoenix - because he refused to meet with them. If he didn't want to play for Montreal, I doubt if they'd have the discussion that was broadcast of Gordon asking if they are avoiding the riskier high corking player (paraphrasing- don't remember the exact quote).I hated the Reimbacher pick. W e should have taken Michkov and if there was legit concern (I yr timeline shouldn't have been one - players take time - slaf in yr time is not as productive as Michkov), they should have taken Leonard. That pick is my only real disagreement, wnd the one decision I'm upset about. Don't agree with everything the new mgmt tram has done, but that pick is the only one that pissed me off from the moment it was made.

[hab29RETIRED]

On 12/7/2024 at 1:23 PM, tomh009 said:

It's worth noting that six teams passed on him, not only the Habs.

 

And it has been reported that he was not willing to play for Montreal ...

Doesn't make it any better.3 teams passed on Makar - doesn't mean those were good decisions. 6 teams passed on Hughes - including us - doesn't make the KK pick any better.

 

the stupidity of others isn't an excuse for our own stupidity.

[tomh009]

51 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said:

the stupidity of others isn't an excuse for our on stupidity.

It's not necessarily stupidity. When you are making draft picks you are making educated guesses as to how 18yo players, with zero or minimal pro experience, will be able to adapt and thrive in the NHL. If it were a science, there would be at least one NHL team that is making optimal picks 90% of the time. But there isn't. We should judge a team on their overall drafting record, not on any single pick.

 

Hindsight is always 20/20 but seeing the future? I don't think so.