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3 minutes ago, DON said:


But Guhle trained hard this summer to make himself less susceptible to further damage.

“I didn’t really put on much weight, but I feel stronger,” he said. “Learned how to use my body a lot better in the corners and (focused) just on protecting myself, and I feel stronger, I feel good. Tried to put on a little bit of weight and just felt not as quick, so I like where I’m at now.”

 

Encouraging!

 

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1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

I didn’t know his weight was a conscious choice. Surely to aid in his mobility. 
 

I think he needs to figure out a way to stop getting thumped so badly. 

I think he's doing the right thing. Gaining 10 lbs will not help him avoid hits, better mobility might.

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38 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

Regarding Guhle’s weight, he never struck me as a guy who was pushed around or manhandled down low (?). Maybe he didn’t really need extra muscle.

Exactly. His weight is not an issue for me. I want to see more of those smooth larry robinsonesque end to end rushes.  If running lighter helps him do that, then perfect, because he doesn't seem to get overpowered in his own end at this weight. I just wish he didn't have to play with the gambler on his wrong side. He is fine over there. More than fine. But I saw glimpses of stud when he was on his natural side and feeling the game.

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Guhle gets beaten and thumped hard every game. 
 

I thought he needed more muscle to deal with it because he plays a physical game. 
 

The Sportsnet article demonstrates that Guhle is aware of the problem and is working on it. 
 

It’s not the muscle I care about, it’s Guhle not getting thumped so much. Hopefully his work on this will pay off this season. 

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I guess Roy is a bit of a surprise but he was never guaranteed a spot and obviously didn't have a great camp. Mailloux had to stand out and he was ok but ok wasn't good enough especially because Barron wouldn't get through waivers. I like Heineman's potential and he can play a physical game. Let's get the season going!!

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Opening lines:

 

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky 

Newhook - Dach - Heineman 

Kapanen - Dvorak - Armia

Gallagher - Evans - Anderson 

Barre-Boulet/Pezzetta

 

Matheson - Guhle

Hutson - Savard

Xhekaj - Struble 

Barron

 

I don’t think St. Louis will agree with me and I expect Anderson to be on the second line unfortunately. I sincerely hope that Marty doesn’t give Anderson as much rope this season. 

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Stu Cowan had practice line up as:

 

Juraj Slafkovsky – Nick Suzuki – Cole Caufield 

 

Alex Newhook – Kirby Dach – Joel Armia 

 

Alex Barré-Boulet – Christian Dvorak – Josh Anderson 

 

Emil Heineman – Jake Evans – Brendan Gallagher 

 

Extra forwards: Michael Pezzetta and Oliver Kapanan

 

DEFENCE

 

Mike Matheson – Kaiden Guhle 

 

Lane Hutson – David Savard 

 

Arber Xhekaj – Justin Barron

 

Therapy day: Jayden Struble

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4 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:


 

1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

I guess Roy is a bit of a surprise but he was never guaranteed a spot and obviously didn't have a great camp. Mailloux had to stand out and he was ok but ok wasn't good enough especially because Barron wouldn't get through waivers. I like Heineman's potential and he can play a physical game. Let's get the season going!!

I would think if Mailloux was given an opportunity to force management's hand and didn't deliver, he was rightly sent down so as not to risk Barron on waivers.

Roy is a suprise but, he is just as young as Heinemen and Kapanan, so if they stepped up in preseason and Roy didn't deliver during preseason why should it be any different? Because he put up 9 points in 23 games LY and has great IQ and high ceiling?

 

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17 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 I guess that's a way of saying he has the talent, but not the work ethic/mindset/maturity?

I think the first sentence speaks to his hockey sense/understanding of the game ... the second could be as you say or could also refer to his skills.

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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 I guess that's a way of saying he has the talent, but not the work ethic/mindset/maturity?

 

44 minutes ago, GHT120 said:

I think the first sentence speaks to his hockey sense/understanding of the game ... the second could be as you say or could also refer to his skills.

 

 

Sounds like work ethic to me and Roy did put on 9lbs this offseason. Perhaps that wasn’t muscle weight he added. 
 

I do expect Roy to work his way back to Montreal 

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15 hours ago, GHT120 said:

I think the first sentence speaks to his hockey sense/understanding of the game ... the second could be as you say or could also refer to his skills.

 

Hopefully it doesn’t refer to his skills - if so that would be a pretty fundamental criticism!

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24 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 

Hopefully it doesn’t refer to his skills - if so that would be a pretty fundamental criticism!

Poor choice of words (or an imprecise shortcut) ... I meant that he didn't adjust the execution of his skills to the speed/level of the NHL game ... could also be a matter of confidence in using his skills ... didn't mean his not having the basic skills

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Closing quote from Slafkovsky in Arpon Basu's excellent in-depth piece on him:

 

“People always want to have winners on their teams,” he said. “I’d rather have a winner that scores five less goals than some loser that just focuses on scoring 40 goals.”

 

He's very much driven to win.

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On 10/5/2024 at 1:37 PM, tomh009 said:

I think he's doing the right thing. Gaining 10 lbs will not help him avoid hits, better mobility might.

 It's not about just gaining weight, it's about core strength. You look at Sidney Crosby, he has tremendous core strength, tough to move.  Guhle just seems to get bumped around a lot. 

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1-0
 

Things could not have gone much better.

 

A power play goal. A shutout versus the Leafs.

Could have been less shots on net against and less post/crossbar action behind Montembeault. Less penalties against.

But a win is a win.

Did not see anything out of place or poor games by anyone specifically.  Obviously Montembeault shone. So did Stolarz. We made him work.


Calgary won. Which is good in small doses.

 

Did we get Hutson on the ice during our 5 on 3 ? We seemed to be playing on the perimeter of that 5 on 3…. Hated every moment of it.

 

Boston will be fun Thursday night. I can only assume Primeau plays. We need to keep the shots against down and score on Swayman. Heard Boston’s defence is their weak area. 
 

 

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8 hours ago, Butterface said:

1-0
 

Things could not have gone much better.

 

A power play goal. A shutout versus the Leafs.

Could have been less shots on net against and less post/crossbar action behind Montembeault. Less penalties against.

But a win is a win.

Did not see anything out of place or poor games by anyone specifically.  Obviously Montembeault shone. So did Stolarz. We made him work.


Calgary won. Which is good in small doses.

 

Did we get Hutson on the ice during our 5 on 3 ? We seemed to be playing on the perimeter of that 5 on 3…. Hated every moment of it.

 

Boston will be fun Thursday night. I can only assume Primeau plays. We need to keep the shots against down and score on Swayman. Heard Boston’s defence is their weak area. 
 

 

 

I agree 100% about the 5 on 3, it was painful to watch just passing the puck around the outside and not creating anything, I think Hutson would have shone in that situation. 

 

Last night was great as far as the result goes but they were dominated for long stretches and gave up too many quality chances. 

 

Not sure if Swayman is playing, if he is he may be a little rusty. It's early. 

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METAL! retires ahead of 2024-25 season
Again

 

https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/metal-retires-ahead-of-2024-25-season

 

A very Poochie-esque announcement

 

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