2024-25 Montreal Canadiens discussion thread

[Prime Minister Koivu]

10 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 

I keep in mind what Hughes said about Slaf - that there will be periods of regression, it won’t all be uphill. This is not true of Slick Nick or Caufield, however. 60 feels like a safer projection for Slaf. But who knows. He could break out.

60 points is a safe prediction but I don’t think Slafkovsky is a regular player. 
 

I think Slafkovsky is a star and he is going to dominate more and more. 
 

Hopefully I’m not wrong 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

This guy is going to stay healthy and destroy the league 

 

 

[DON]

Hutson, Mailloux, Demidov, Hage, Reinbacher, Hage, Mesar, Beck, Fowler, Engstrom.

 

Seems we are always talking about how good they may likely get to be.

But, who is more likely to underachieve; as we all know all of these kids wont pan out as per fan expectations?

 

Hutson, Mailloux, Engstrom may (will) all struggle defending and limit their impact?

 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

2 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

This guy is going to stay healthy and destroy the league 

 

 

 

If there is one thing I am really hoping for this year. ONE THING!!  It's a healthy Kirby Dach!!

[DON]

20 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

If there is one thing I am really hoping for this year. ONE THING!!  It's a healthy Kirby Dach!!

Not that Suzuki's Ironman streak goes another year?

I think his health much more important than Dach's and kinda taken for granted.

How bad would the Habs be if he went down with a serious injury. 

(And no i am not jinxing him, dont believe in that mumbo jumbo.) 

 

But, does his streak cause him to play through stuff he shouldnt be?

Am sure he must be quite proud of not missing any games in last 9 years.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

5 minutes ago, DON said:

Not that Suzuki's Ironman streak goes another year?

I think his health much more important than Dach's and kinda taken for granted.

How bad would the Habs be if he went down with a serious injury. 

(And no i am not jinxing him, dont believe in that mumbo jumbo.) 

 

But, does his streak cause him to play through stuff he shouldnt be?

Am sure he must be quite proud of not missing any games in last 9 years.

 

Of course and I do take Suzuki's health for granted. The point I am trying to make is that we need Dach healthy for a year to find out what kind of player he is. We already know what Suzuki can do. If Suzuki got hurt it would be devastating to the team but it would likely be a one and done type of injury. History shows he is a durable guy.  With Dach, another injury and I would wonder if he will ever contribute to the team hence my statement. 

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

7 minutes ago, DON said:

Not that Suzuki's Ironman streak goes another year?

I think his health much more important than Dach's and kinda taken for granted.

How bad would the Habs be if he went down with a serious injury. 

(And no i am not jinxing him, dont believe in that mumbo jumbo.) 

 

But, does his streak cause him to play through stuff he shouldnt be?

Am sure he must be quite proud of not missing any games in last 9 years.

 

It’s an absolutely great point. I think Suzuki’s vision and intelligence on the ice allow him to avoid situations where we’s vulnerable. But there’s an element of luck in all this too.

 

It would be EXACTLY the Habs’ luck to have 82 games from Dach and have Nick suffer a major injury. God forbid. 

 

2 hours ago, DON said:

Hutson, Mailloux, Demidov, Hage, Reinbacher, Hage, Mesar, Beck, Fowler, Engstrom.

 

Seems we are always talking about how good they may likely get to be.

But, who is more likely to underachieve; as we all know all of these kids wont pan out as per fan expectations?

 

Hutson, Mailloux, Engstrom may (will) all struggle defending and limit their impact?

 

 

Don’t know much about Engstrom, but between Hutson and Mailloux I think the latter is a bigger bet to struggle. My sense is that Hutson’s offensive skills will bedazzle us even if he struggles in his own end. Mailloux doesn’t have the same ridiculously high ceiling , so struggles in the D zone could lead to general floundering. I hope not, of course. 

[DON]

2 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

Of course and I do take Suzuki's health for granted. The point I am trying to make is that we need Dach healthy for a year to find out what kind of player he is. We already know what Suzuki can do. If Suzuki got hurt it would be devastating to the team but it would likely be a one and done type of injury. History shows he is a durable guy.  With Dach, another injury and I would wonder if he will ever contribute to the team hence my statement. 

I get the Dach bit, was kinda thinking out loud and what would team look like with a healthy Dach and no Suzy (sorry UGG, keep thinking of old Johnny Cash song... A boy named Sue).

 

We all hope to see a 50+point Dach at centre, with Newhook and Roy both lighting it up!

[tomh009]

2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

It’s an absolutely great point. I think Suzuki’s vision and intelligence on the ice allow him to avoid situations where we’s vulnerable. But there’s an element of luck in all this too.

He's also very solidly built. Suzuki weighs almost the same as Dach, even though he is five inches shorter.

[hab29RETIRED]

3 hours ago, DON said:

Not that Suzuki's Ironman streak goes another year?

I think his health much more important than Dach's and kinda taken for granted.

How bad would the Habs be if he went down with a serious injury. 

(And no i am not jinxing him, dont believe in that mumbo jumbo.) 

 

But, does his streak cause him to play through stuff he shouldnt be?

Am sure he must be quite proud of not missing any games in last 9 years.

If Suzuki misses a game next year - I'm blaming you!!

[DON]

1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said:

If Suzuki misses a game next year - I'm blaming you!!

Fair.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

5 hours ago, tomh009 said:

He's also very solidly built. Suzuki weighs almost the same as Dach, even though he is five inches shorter.

 

Yes, guys who are a little shorter with good core strength and balance are less likely to get hurt. Suzuki has excellent core strength. 

[DON]

How will the rugged young fellow be utilized?

Jayden Struble: Victim of a Numbers Game? – HabsWorld.net

 

"...He’s 14 NHL games played away from being eligible for waivers.  In the fall, the back end of rosters is often determined by waiver status, ensuring they keep as many players around as they can."

[DON]

Are we there yet? How close is the end of the Habs rebuild? – Hab At Her

 

A review of new mgmt moves, what is Hughes next one?

[Prime Minister Koivu]

1 hour ago, DON said:

Are we there yet? How close is the end of the Habs rebuild? – Hab At Her

 

A review of new mgmt moves, what is Hughes next one?

Hughes has done an outstanding job

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

9 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Hughes has done an outstanding job

Agreed, he is doing what needed to be done (rebuild) and he is doing it methodically and patiently. He will make some decisions that don't turn out well but every decision he makes will be  really well thought out. 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

Don’t know anything about this guy but his numbers look good 

 

 

[Commandant]

The numbers are not that good.  Barely over a PPG for an overage player is meh... dime a dozen to find those players.

 

Hes ECHL fodder at best, maybe gets to AHL in a few years, but you need to fill those spots too.

 

 

[Prime Minister Koivu]

1 hour ago, Commandant said:

The numbers are not that good.  Barely over a PPG for an overage player is meh... dime a dozen to find those players.

 

Hes ECHL fodder at best, maybe gets to AHL in a few years, but you need to fill those spots too.

 

 

Thanks for adding context to his performance. I definitely didn’t consider his age for example. 
 

Nothing exciting here

[sim.on]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2lCkxzbeII

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

13 hours ago, Commandant said:

The numbers are not that good.  Barely over a PPG for an overage player is meh... dime a dozen to find those players.

 

Hes ECHL fodder at best, maybe gets to AHL in a few years, but you need to fill those spots too.

 

 

 

He actually regressed as he had better numbers the year before, not a good sign.  ECHL fodder is probably correct. 

[GHT120]

10 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

He actually regressed as he had better numbers the year before, not a good sign.  ECHL fodder is probably correct. 

He was born "just across the river" from Trois Rivières in Victoriaville. 

[DON]

Go Newf!

Will he and Dach mesh well on 2nd line?

 

Fantasy Focus: Alex Newhook – HabsWorld.net

 

"Some players have a role that is pretty easy to predict heading into training camp.  Newhook is not one of those.  Even his position is in some flux."

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

43 minutes ago, DON said:

Go Newf!

Will he and Dach mesh well on 2nd line?

 

Fantasy Focus: Alex Newhook – HabsWorld.net

 

"Some players have a role that is pretty easy to predict heading into training camp.  Newhook is not one of those.  Even his position is in some flux."

 

Seems a sober assessment. 

 

I feel like Newhook is potentially a quiet, “secret weapon” type of asset - the sort of guy who adds an extra dimension to a team at playoff time, striking, say, when all the attention is focused on the big guns. In other words, a sneaky-good #6 FW. We’ll see, eventually. 

[Sir_Boagalott]

On 8/8/2024 at 11:27 PM, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

On 8/8/2024 at 6:19 PM, tomh009 said:

He's also very solidly built. Suzuki weighs almost the same as Dach, even though he is five inches shorter.

 

Yes, guys who are a little shorter with good core strength and balance are less likely to get hurt. Suzuki has excellent core strength. 

 

I believe his strength has a lot to do with it.  If you see him in a pic with his shirt off he has an impressive lat muscle.

 

re Dach, is he injury prone or has he just been super unlucky?  I'm thinking its the later but either way we will find out this this season.  

 

Speaking of injuries, this will sound sorta crazy but I almost want the Habs to get Gioradno.  Yes, he's 40, but thats a reason to get him.  Not many play until they are 40, especially dmen that aren't crazy large super strong guys.  Giordano also has his own personal training regime that he created.  Plus, he's got a ton of experience and if not as a player he'd be a good idea as a trainer or D coach.  He'd be able to help all the young guys prepare for playing a full 82 game season.