Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: We won't pick in the 25-28 range. The Cup winner picks 32, the finals loser 31, and the conference finals losers 29-30. 25-28 are the regular-season division winners that did not make it to the conference finals; otherwise the rest of the playoff teams are ranked by regular-season results. I was trying to be cheeky about Montreal making the playoffs and winning a some level. So I guess my hope is now pick 31 or 32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 18 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I was trying to be cheeky about Montreal making the playoffs and winning a some level. So I guess my hope is now pick 31 or 32 Anything but 31. My heart wouldn’t handle that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 56 minutes ago, Helmethead said: Anything but 31. My heart wouldn’t handle that. Yeah that’s a fair point for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 Without a couple road wins it's looking very doubtful the Flames will slide to the bottom 10 which is excellent. Just need them to slide a bit and miss the playoffs. Looking like the pick will be in the 14-18 range. If they make the playoffs and go out in the 1st couple rounds, likely 17 or 18, if they just miss likely 14-16. Much better than I thought at the start of the year as I thought they would be bottom 10 and we would get Florida's pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Without a couple road wins it's looking very doubtful the Flames will slide to the bottom 10 which is excellent. Just need them to slide a bit and miss the playoffs. Looking like the pick will be in the 14-18 range. If they make the playoffs and go out in the 1st couple rounds, likely 17 or 18, if they just miss likely 14-16. Much better than I thought at the start of the year as I thought they would be bottom 10 and we would get Florida's pick. Is the trade determined pre or post draft lottery ... or in other words, is it based on standings or ultimate draft position ... even at 16th they could move up to 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 57 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Is the trade determined pre or post draft lottery ... or in other words, is it based on standings or ultimate draft position ... even at 16th they could move up to 6th. Post lottery. Its the ultimate draft position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 7 minutes ago, Commandant said: Post lottery. Its the ultimate draft position. Yes, it could move from 16 to 6 in which case they would keep the pick but the odds of moving from say 16 to 6 is less than 2% I believe, not sure of the exact odds of that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 if flames pick is in top 10, then what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, DON said: if flames pick is in top 10, then what? If the Flames pick is top 10 then they get to keep it and we get Florida's pick which would likely be mid 20's at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 5 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: If the Flames pick is top 10 then they get to keep it and we get Florida's pick which would likely be mid 20's at best. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 A 3rd road win in a row for the Flames. A bottom 10 finish is pretty much out of the question now. Shaping up to be quite a battle for the last wild card spot in the west, St. Louis has the easiest schedule but the Flames are surprising people, they are a hungry team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 A tough loss for the Flames and the Blues are on fire. Looking more and more like the Flames pick will be in the 15-16 range which is likely better than we expected before the season started. It would also be very good trading capital should Hughes choose to go in that direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 The Flames are 8 points clear of the bottom 10 and 6 points out of a playoff spot with 8 games to go. Almost perfect. Now if they could go something like 2-6 in their last 8 games they could slide a bit but I expect they will continue fighting like they have all year. I expect that pick will be 15 or 16 unless they win the lottery (about a 1.1% chance). Habs pick if they get the last playoff spot and lose in the 1st 2 rounds will be 17. Could be back to back picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 One player I find intriguing is Cameron Schmidt. High end offensive player but small so will likely drop. Could be another Cole Caulfield? Or do we need another one? Perhaps Commandant has some thoughts on him. Thanks Also if we packaged our 2 picks together (likely both in the 14-18 range), how high could we move up? It's all about quality now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Here is an outline of players I like with a very rudimentary description of their game (I haven't watched any of them myself, this is from from reading/listening to scouts alone). I'll also mention some current Hab that reading the profiles has reminded me of, but those more knowledgeable here, feel free to point out better comparisons or if I've missed the mark!The heart and soul guys: Carter Bear & Bill Zonnon Carter Bear C/LW - 6'0, 176 lbs Likely to slide in the 2025 draft due to a lacerated Achilles. 40 goals/ 42 assists in 56 games before injury Engages physically, wins puck battles, a little nastiness Two-way, smart game Elements Brendan Gallagher Bill Zonnon - LW 6'2, 190 lbs Power-forward game, high compete level, uses frame effectively 28 goals, 55 assists in 64 QMJHL games Strong skater Can play C/RW/LW More than a physical presence - Good hockey IQ May not reach top 6 upside, but seems to has a high floor Elements of Josh Anderson High skill forwards: Malcolm Spence, Ben Kindel, Justin Carbonneau Malcolm Spence LW - 6'2, 201 lbs Can sometimes take over games with his skill 32 goals, 41 assists in 73 OHL games High motor, engages physically Decent floor (top 9 NHLer) Has been had inconsistent production throughout season, may not reach his offensive ceiling Elements of Joel Armia/Alex Newhook Ben Kindel - 6'0 - 176 lbs Skilled and smart 35 goals, 64 assists in 65 WHL games High end Playmaking ability Good effort level He does go to the dirty areas, but lacks strength Elements of Jake Evans/Nick Suzuki Justin Carbonneau - 6'1, 192 lbs Skilled, Dual threat RW 46 goals, 43 assists in 62 QMJHL games Good skater High effort with the puck, needs to improve off-puck game Not noted to have a physical game Elements of Joshua Roy/Alex Newhook The small, high ceiling forward: Cameron Schmidt Cameron Schmidt RW - 5'7, 161 Seen as top line, powerplay upside 40 goals, 38 assists in 61 WHL games Excellent speed Dangerous shot, good playmaking ability Boom or Bust prospect Elements of Cole Caufield The two-way D men: Kashawn Aitcheson, Logan Hensler, Cameron Reid Kashawn Aitcheson LD - 6'1, 198 lbs Rugged D man that plays with lots of snarl Willing to fight, will punish opponents with hits 26 goals, 33 assists in 64 OHL games Not necessarily expected to have high level of production at NHL level More than a goon, has good hockey sense, shot, and skating; Top 4 upside Elements of Arber Xhekaj/Logan Mailloux Logan Hensler RD - 6'2, 196 lbs Mobile D-man with excellent shut down abilities 2 goals, 10 assists in 32 NCAA games Excellent Skater Some offensive flashes May Become more of a puck-moving defensive D at NHL level Elements of Kaiden Guhle/David Savard Cameron Reid LD - 6'0, 174 lbs Uses skating & body effectively to shut down opponents 14 goals, 40 assists in 67 OHL games High hockey IQ Developing decent offensive game Potential top 4 D Elements of Alex carrier Of course there are many other option as well. Some players I left out because I expect them to be off the board, or because they didn't catch my eye. Some players I left out were: 6'6 RD Radim Mrtka 6'3 LD Jackson Smith 6'4 F Lynden Lakovic 6'0 C Brady Martin 5'9 LW Cullen Potter So who are my personal picks? With Montreal's solid prospect pool, I feel we need player who are skilled but also fill a role well. For that reason, I'm leaning towards the guys who seem to have excellent work ethic & may be able to bring a nice element to the lineup in a checking role rather than filling into the top of the lineup quickly. For that reason my personal picks among players mentioned here are:Kashawn Aitcheson - Extra nastiness to protect our young talent like Hutson/Demidov is always welcome, especially when that player might blossom into a top 4 role as well. He's been compared to TroubaCarter Bear - I think we can afford to take a risk with Bear's injury. If he recovers, he could be exactly the right mix of talent and energy we need when trying to win a cup Who do you guys like? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alfredoh2009 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Meller93 said: Here is an outline of players I like with a very rudimentary description of their game (I haven't watched any of them myself, this is from from reading/listening to scouts alone). I'll also mention some current Hab that reading the profiles has reminded me of, but those more knowledgeable here, feel free to point out better comparisons or if I've missed the mark!The heart and soul guys: Carter Bear & Bill Zonnon Carter Bear C/LW - 6'0, 176 lbs Likely to slide in the 2025 draft due to a lacerated Achilles. 40 goals/ 42 assists in 56 games before injury Engages physically, wins puck battles, a little nastiness Two-way, smart game Elements Brendan Gallagher Bill Zonnon - LW 6'2, 190 lbs Power-forward game, high compete level, uses frame effectively 28 goals, 55 assists in 64 QMJHL games Strong skater Can play C/RW/LW More than a physical presence - Good hockey IQ May not reach top 6 upside, but seems to has a high floor Elements of Josh Anderson High skill forwards: Malcolm Spence, Ben Kindel, Justin Carbonneau Malcolm Spence LW - 6'2, 201 lbs Can sometimes take over games with his skill 32 goals, 41 assists in 73 OHL games High motor, engages physically Decent floor (top 9 NHLer) Has been had inconsistent production throughout season, may not reach his offensive ceiling Elements of Joel Armia/Alex Newhook Ben Kindel - 6'0 - 176 lbs Skilled and smart 35 goals, 64 assists in 65 WHL games High end Playmaking ability Good effort level He does go to the dirty areas, but lacks strength Elements of Jake Evans/Nick Suzuki Justin Carbonneau - 6'1, 192 lbs Skilled, Dual threat RW 46 goals, 43 assists in 62 QMJHL games Good skater High effort with the puck, needs to improve off-puck game Not noted to have a physical game Elements of Joshua Roy/Alex Newhook The small, high ceiling forward: Cameron Schmidt Cameron Schmidt RW - 5'7, 161 Seen as top line, powerplay upside 40 goals, 38 assists in 61 WHL games Excellent speed Dangerous shot, good playmaking ability Boom or Bust prospect Elements of Cole Caufield The two-way D men: Kashawn Aitcheson, Logan Hensler, Cameron Reid Kashawn Aitcheson LD - 6'1, 198 lbs Rugged D man that plays with lots of snarl Willing to fight, will punish opponents with hits 26 goals, 33 assists in 64 OHL games Not necessarily expected to have high level of production at NHL level More than a goon, has good hockey sense, shot, and skating; Top 4 upside Elements of Arber Xhekaj/Logan Mailloux Logan Hensler RD - 6'2, 196 lbs Mobile D-man with excellent shut down abilities 2 goals, 10 assists in 32 NCAA games Excellent Skater Some offensive flashes May Become more of a puck-moving defensive D at NHL level Elements of Kaiden Guhle/David Savard Cameron Reid LD - 6'0, 174 lbs Uses skating & body effectively to shut down opponents 14 goals, 40 assists in 67 OHL games High hockey IQ Developing decent offensive game Potential top 4 D Elements of Alex carrier Of course there are many other option as well. Some players I left out because I expect them to be off the board, or because they didn't catch my eye. Some players I left out were: 6'6 RD Radim Mrtka 6'3 LD Jackson Smith 6'4 F Lynden Lakovic 6'0 C Brady Martin 5'9 LW Cullen Potter So who are my personal picks? With Montreal's solid prospect pool, I feel we need player who are skilled but also fill a role well. For that reason, I'm leaning towards the guys who seem to have excellent work ethic & may be able to bring a nice element to the lineup in a checking role rather than filling into the top of the lineup quickly. For that reason my personal picks among players mentioned here are:Kashawn Aitcheson - Extra nastiness to protect our young talent like Hutson/Demidov is always welcome, especially when that player might blossom into a top 4 role as well. He's been compared to TroubaCarter Bear - I think we can afford to take a risk with Bear's injury. If he recovers, he could be exactly the right mix of talent and energy we need when trying to win a cup Who do you guys like? Justin Carbonneau , he has been popping on my feeds now and then, always on a positive note. I don;t know much about him or the rest, just that he is on my "radar" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Meller93 said: So who are my personal picks? With Montreal's solid prospect pool, I feel we need player who are skilled but also fill a role well. For that reason, I'm leaning towards the guys who seem to have excellent work ethic & may be able to bring a nice element to the lineup in a checking role rather than filling into the top of the lineup quickly. For that reason my personal picks among players mentioned here are:Kashawn Aitcheson - Extra nastiness to protect our young talent like Hutson/Demidov is always welcome, especially when that player might blossom into a top 4 role as well. He's been compared to TroubaCarter Bear - I think we can afford to take a risk with Bear's injury. If he recovers, he could be exactly the right mix of talent and energy we need when trying to win a cup Who do you guys like? I really like those 2 guys as well. I really like Carter Bear, likely the Habs draft 16-17, Bear might be gone by then but Hughes has ammo to trade up if need be. Aitcheson definitely has a nasty streak and skill. I really like Schmidt but he is very similar to Caulfield, maybe one small guy too many if they take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 dlbalr noted Habs offered Mailloux & pick #26 for Zegras last year. Will Hughes continue this trend of adding/ trying to add a young pro vs drafting again? What young forward might fit the bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 9 minutes ago, DON said: dlbalr noted Habs offered Mailloux & pick #26 for Zegras last year. Will Hughes continue this trend of adding/ trying to add a young pro vs drafting again? What young forward might fit the bill? Good question. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Hughes tries to use some of his draft capital to acquire a young prospect/player. Who might be available that Hughes would want is the big question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 The players who are available will be more clear once some teams disappoint in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/11/2025 at 12:18 PM, alfredoh2009 said: Justin Carbonneau , he has been popping on my feeds now and then, always on a positive note. I don;t know much about him or the rest, just that he is on my "radar" Carbonneau could be one final cog as a potential top 6 producer in the system. I'd be pretty happy with that pick too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 Despite a valiant attempt the Flames came up short so that pick should be 16 unless the Flames get really lucky with the ping pong balls. Possible drafting scenarios. Really optimistic scenario: Habs draft 16 and 32 Pessimistic scenario: (Habs lose tonight and miss playoffs) Habs draft 14 and 16 Realistic scenario (Habs make playoffs but go out in the 1st 2 rounds) Habs draft 16 and 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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