JoeLassister Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 As per the Mtl Canadiens website. 2025-2026 to 2030-2031, total of 33.3M$. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Again i dont have a clue if deal is good, bad or as expected. Why wasnt it a 8 year deal? Montreal Canadiens sign Kaiden Guhle to six-year contract extension (habseyesontheprize.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Was expecting 8 years but the cap hit is roughly what I expected. Hughes is doing good work. Laine next please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Decent stat card for his age. Not sure if Guhle can ever be an offensive threat but he is a solid player. I would still like to re-sign Matheson and move Guhle back to the left side long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 55 minutes ago, DON said: Again i dont have a clue if deal is good, bad or as expected. Why wasnt it a 8 year deal? Montreal Canadiens sign Kaiden Guhle to six-year contract extension (habseyesontheprize.com) Guhle may have (likely?) wanted a higher AAV for eight years, which would therefore have included up two more UFA years, or just not wanted to lock-in for that long for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Holy crow, this seems like an excellent deal. He’s probably worth 5.5 right now, given the brutal minutes and situations he’s logged. If he develops further, this will be a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 So his cap hit will take over Dvorak’s cap hit. But it makes him even more trade able now. As good as he can be I feel like we have guys in our system that play the same way. So if trading him would land us a top 6 player then i’m all in on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 You're thinking of trading him on the day he signed a 6 year deal? Im guessing that isnt HuGo's thought process. Not with this term. If it was short term, then maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, DON said: Again i dont have a clue if deal is good, bad or as expected. That's kind of how I feel. I think his floor is of a solid 2nd pairing defensemen. I think Hughes has a pretty solid plan and is very forward looking with these deals. A lot depends on whether the cap continues to rise. If it does then a lot of these deals will likely age very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, Habsfan89 said: So his cap hit will take over Dvorak’s cap hit. But it makes him even more trade able now. As good as he can be I feel like we have guys in our system that play the same way. So if trading him would land us a top 6 player then i’m all in on it. I won’t reiterate the well-earned paranoia around here about trading excellent young D for FWs - a mistake the Habs have made over and over since the disastrous Chelios trade. But don’t you think Guhle could be a ‘glue guy’ back there, the all-purpose, minutes-munching, ultra-reliable defender who does everything well and plays at key times? I see him as along the lines of Chris Tanev, but probably superior, if his development goes well. That doesn’t make him untradeable, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 39 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I would still like to re-sign Matheson and move Guhle back to the left side long term. Kinda opposing things, no? And Hutson would be 3rd pairing long term? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Love this deal, would have preferred 7 or 8 years, but this is a great number to lock him up at. We'll be contending in the final years of this deal and he'll be a key contributor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 22 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: But don’t you think Guhle could be a ‘glue guy’ back there, the all-purpose, minutes-munching, ultra-reliable defender who does everything well and plays at key times? I see him as along the lines of Chris Tanev, but probably superior, if his development goes well. He certainly could be and if he is then this is an excellent deal especially with a rising cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 35 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I won’t reiterate the well-earned paranoia around here about trading excellent young D for FWs - a mistake the Habs have made over and over since the disastrous Chelios trade. But don’t you think Guhle could be a ‘glue guy’ back there, the all-purpose, minutes-munching, ultra-reliable defender who does everything well and plays at key times? I see him as along the lines of Chris Tanev, but probably superior, if his development goes well. That doesn’t make him untradeable, of course. In the past we haven’t had the depth in our prospects pool that we do now. We traded guys on D in the past that we had no replacement for. What we kept on doing was trading one player to fill a hole but by doing that creating a new hole. i do believe that trend ends with the great job this management team has been doing. We now have the depth up and down our roster in our system if we were going to trade a guy like Guhle to land a top 6 player I don’t see it hurting our D core at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 25 minutes ago, DON said: Kinda opposing things, no? And Hutson would be 3rd pairing long term? Pairings are for example: Matheson - Reinbacker Hutson - Mailloux Guhle - Barron Harris, Xhekaj, Struble Or Hutson - Reinbacker Xhekaj - Guhle Harris - Mailloux Struble, Barron The first option looks better to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Pairings are for example: Matheson - Reinbacker Hutson - Mailloux Guhle - Barron Harris, Xhekaj, Struble Or Hutson - Reinbacker Xhekaj - Guhle Harris - Mailloux Struble, Barron The first option looks better to me $5.5M AAV for a 3rd pairing defenceman seems pricey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 3 minutes ago, GHT120 said: $5.5M AAV for a 3rd pairing defenceman seems pricey That is because of outstanding defensive depth. Would you play Guhle ahead of Matheson or Hutson? Even if we did play Guhle ahead of those guys it works out the same. If kept on the right side then I would play Guhle over Barron but that means a lesser player like Harris/Xhekaj/Struble plays on the left. If the goal is to play the best defence possible then I think Guhle on the left makes most sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Would you play Guhle ahead of Matheson or Hutson? Even if we did play Guhle ahead of those guys it works out the same. Absolutely I would play Guhle over Hutson except on the power play. Guhle should be far superior to Hutson when it comes to playing defense. I am tempering my expectations with Hutson a little. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Hutson/Reinbacher and Guhle/Mailloux for the 1A and 1B pairs--hopefully, as three of the four have not played any significant number of NHL games yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Matheson is obviously gone before too long (i.e., 2026), so even if Hutson moves ahead of him on the depth chart next season - which I doubt - no way does Guhle remain a 3rd-pairing guy for more than one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: Guhle may have (likely?) wanted a higher AAV for eight years, which would therefore have included up two more UFA years, or just not wanted to lock-in for that long for some reason. The AAV would have started with a 6 on a max-term agreement. It's possible that the Habs wanted to hedge against what is a bit of a long injury history going back to junior as well so go a bit shorter and cheaper than what it would have been otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 29 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Absolutely I would play Guhle over Hutson except on the power play. Guhle should be far superior to Hutson when it comes to playing defense. I am tempering my expectations with Hutson a little. However you rank them, do you think the Habs are better off with Guhle on the right side or the left side? Guhle is currently needed on the right but Reinbacker, Mailloux are coming. I advocate for re-signing Matheson because he is much better than Harris, Struble, Xhekaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Holy crow, this seems like an excellent deal. He’s probably worth 5.5 right now, given the brutal minutes and situations he’s logged. If he develops further, this will be a steal. I love the cap hit. I would have preferred an 8 year deal. Having said that doesn't this deal start in 2025-26? If so, it's even better!! he continues to progress and improve, it's a bargain. I think he is better than Nurse today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 8 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: However you rank them, do you think the Habs are better off with Guhle on the right side or the left side? Guhle is currently needed on the right but Reinbacker, Mailloux are coming. I advocate for re-signing Matheson because he is much better than Harris, Struble, Xhekaj I think Gule is better on his natural side, don't know whether that is better for the team or not. Rienbacher and Mailloux are coming so that means Guhle will eventually likely play on the left side. I can see Matheson wanting to stay on a hometown discount as he seems to thrive here but obviously decisions will have to be made. Too many bodies and not enough spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, Habsfan89 said: So his cap hit will take over Dvorak’s cap hit. But it makes him even more trade able now. As good as he can be I feel like we have guys in our system that play the same way. So if trading him would land us a top 6 player then i’m all in on it. Why, why, why, why are we even talking about trading a guy who can be a solid dman that will be required for us to be a contender?? He will most likely be our best defender. Just WHY????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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