Dalhabs Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 2 hours ago, Commandant said: It sucks but players get injured. Was it a penalty that wasnt called? Sure. Was it an intent to injure and the Habs should go after players not involved in the play? Thats just bullshit, and yes ill call out that kinda thinking as not helping the team or the league. I just didnt see the kind of cheap shot that necessitates that. Yes you are right. I was in angermode for that post. Im all for a physical hardhitting but clean game against the leafs next time. I would love to see Xhekaj clock Reeves but seriously its not worth it. Another whole year of lost development on Reinbacher? Devastating. And also feels like whole season is lost because of Läines injury. I was really hoping for at least a fight for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 2 minutes ago, Dalhabs said: Another whole year of lost development on Reinbacher? Devastating. While there's no way to know at this point how bad Reinbacher is hurt, it didn't look bad. It looked more like an injury he could be back in a couple of weeks or less, maybe even a couple of days. The bigger disappointment for him is missing out on the rest of training camp, getting a taste of NHL players before going to the AHL. Laine on the other hand, anything less than 4-6 weeks would be surprising. Crossing my fingers I'm completely wrong here, but not being hopeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 31 minutes ago, Dalhabs said: Yes you are right. I was in angermode for that post. Im all for a physical hardhitting but clean game against the leafs next time. I would love to see Xhekaj clock Reeves but seriously its not worth it. Another whole year of lost development on Reinbacher? Devastating. And also feels like whole season is lost because of Läines injury. I was really hoping for at least a fight for the playoffs. Laine was likely to get injured at some point - he hasn’t played a full season in three years. I figured we’d get 65 games out of him. But last night looked much more serious than a 4-6 week thing. Hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Bad luck is real. And when it comes to massive injuries to important players, the Habs have had a ridiculous amount of it since Koivu. I’m a bit worried on a human level for Laine. A season ending injury before a single official game has been played is a terrible thing to happen - just about the worst possible outcome - to a young man trying to overcome depression, or whatever his mental health issues are. My sentiments exactly. I've lived Laines knee issue (even though it still not officially confirmed) and it isn't easy... couple that all is other issues he's trying to overcome, and I really hope it makes him stronger in the end... He actually took two blows(the initial knee blow, as well as the whip lash) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 The Laine injury sucks. But I didn't see a play where a player was beat, so he stuck out the knee. Yes, under a microscope, the knee sticks out, but I'm not too mad at the other player. The Reinbacher injury could be a big deal short term though. This team needs 2 top 4 defenseman. Right now they have zero. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 What I saw was a career ECHL/ AHL player who will have zero chance at an NHL career left flat footed by a far superior 6'5 220lb winger with speed. Instead of letting him go, he led with his knee, and the result is catastrophic for Laine. On top of that, he failed to answer for his reckless and dangerous movement after the refs failed to make the right call on the play. Of course his intention was not to blow up Laines knee. But his challange was reckless when leading with his knee. It's why kneeing is a penalty. To me it's no different than when a guy pushes a guy Iin the back of the numbers and sends him flying into boards hard and usually head first. The intention isn't to injure, but its the result often times from the action. 1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: It is terrible, rotten luck. Trying to be as objective as possible, I just didn't see a dirty play or intent to injure, maybe a bit careless. Time to move forward and hope both players can recover fully from whatever the injury is. Hopefully last night was the low point of the year. It appears Hughes (with Price and likely Laine on LTIR) will have a whole lot of cap room. Let's see if he can be creative with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: It is terrible, rotten luck. Trying to be as objective as possible, I just didn't see a dirty play or intent to injure, maybe a bit careless. Time to move forward and hope both players can recover fully from whatever the injury is. Hopefully last night was the low point of the year. It appears Hughes (with Price and likely Laine on LTIR) will have a whole lot of cap room. Let's see if he can be creative with it. I would agree with that if not for the attempt on Hudson. It was fully intended and not answering the bell after is bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 24 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: The Laine injury sucks. But I didn't see a play where a player was beat, so he stuck out the knee. Yes, under a microscope, the knee sticks out, but I'm not too mad at the other player. The Reinbacher injury could be a big deal short term though. This team needs 2 top 4 defenseman. Right now they have zero. zero? If Mattheson isn't a top 4 defenceman, I don't know what is. He's at minimum a #2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Someone pointed out that this kind of collision hS happened to Laine before, although the results were not as severe. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/laine-shaken-knee-knee-collision-brodin-overtime/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I know I’m probably gonna get reemed for this but with all due respect, Laine was trying to split two players while skating like a duck. He should’ve been using his frame and speed while leading with his shoulder instead of leaving his knees exposed like he did. Again, I’m not defending that clown but Laine didn’t do himself any favors there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 34 minutes ago, Helmethead said: I know I’m probably gonna get reemed for this but with all due respect, Laine was trying to split two players while skating like a duck. [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Condotta and Gignac are on waivers today: https://www.habsworld.net/2024/09/habs-place-lucas-condotta-and-brandon-gignac-on-waivers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 5 hours ago, Commandant said: zero? If Mattheson isn't a top 4 defenceman, I don't know what is. He's at minimum a #2. I'm sorry. Right defense. They have no top 4 rd. I think Ghule, Matheson and potentially hutson are all top 4 LD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 4 hours ago, Helmethead said: I know I’m probably gonna get reemed for this but with all due respect, Laine was trying to split two players while skating like a duck. He should’ve been using his frame and speed while leading with his shoulder instead of leaving his knees exposed like he did. Again, I’m not defending that clown but Laine didn’t do himself any favors there. Ya. It's wasn't the type of knee that usually pisses me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 13 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: I'm sorry. Right defense. They have no top 4 rd. I think Ghule, Matheson and potentially hutson are all top 4 LD Fair, I agree with that. Guhle works in a pinch, but would rather have him on the Left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 3 hours ago, dlbalr said: Condotta and Gignac are on waivers today: https://www.habsworld.net/2024/09/habs-place-lucas-condotta-and-brandon-gignac-on-waivers/ Assuming laine and reinbacher are on IR... that means 5 more cuts by my count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 38 minutes ago, Commandant said: Assuming laine and reinbacher are on IR... that means 5 more cuts by my count? So lets' say it's 5. Who are the ones on the bubble, Engstrom, Mailloux, Struble (I think he stays), Kapanen, Boulet, Heinemann and Dobes? Did I miss anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Certainly Dobes is going down. Who are the keepers of the above group. Struble and Kapanen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 15 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Certainly Dobes is going down. Who are the keepers of the above group. Struble and Kapanen? Engstrom goes IMO. Heineman and Dobes both go. Thats 3. So now 2 more out of Struble, Mailloux, Kapanen, and Boulet To me its Struble and Kapanen who stay.... but if Guhle goes on IR to start the season as he's not played yet, then Mailloux also stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 16 minutes ago, Commandant said: So that's three. Engstrom goes IMO. Heineman and Dobes both go. So now its Struble, Mailloux, Kapanen, and Boulet To me its Struble and Kapanen who stay.... but if Guhle goes on IR to start the season as he's not played yet, then Mailloux also stays. So it’s a given Hutson makes it huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I forgot to include Lane Hutson, perhaps I assumed he is staying up. I think he has made the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Just now, Helmethead said: So it’s a given Hutson makes it huh? YES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 2 hours ago, Commandant said: Assuming laine and reinbacher are on IR... that means 5 more cuts by my count? Would they keep Reinbacher on the NHL IR rather than AHL IR? That would mean paying him the NHL salary, which would count against the cap, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 28 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Would they keep Reinbacher on the NHL IR rather than AHL IR? That would mean paying him the NHL salary, which would count against the cap, right? He'd go on season-opening IR. In doing so, he'd only count against the cap for the portion of time spent on an NHL roster last season. In his case, that's zero so he'd have no cap hit. Montreal can't send him down until he is cleared to return so the AHL IR isn't an option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 4 hours ago, Helmethead said: So it’s a given Hutson makes it huh? Hes made the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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