Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 These three guys are going to generate many points together 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Buffalo eh, should be an easy 2 wins... Official Site of the National Hockey League | NHL.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 52 minutes ago, DON said: Buffalo eh, should be an easy 2 wins... Official Site of the National Hockey League | NHL.com Buffalo is decent at home so tomorrow is somewhat of a trap game. I’m still “expecting” a decent showing but tomorrow’s game should be the tougher of the two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Gotta win em both if you want to give Hugo something to think about before the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 hours ago, Commandant said: Gotta win em both if you want to give Hugo something to think about before the deadline. Agree, one loss and its sell mode. I hope we win both and again against the oilers on friday and at least have a nice push for wildcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 How is Buffalo always terrible. They honestly need to tear it down again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Lanes World said: How is Buffalo always terrible. They honestly need to tear it down again It's a rare case where I actually feel sympathy for an opposition fanbase. The Sabres have a colourful history and have loyal, long-suffering fans in an unglamorous city. They deserve better than this unending nightmare. They're also Exhibit A for why tanking is anything but a magic bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 Habs could be back in wildcard contention soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Habs are 5 points out of the wildcard..... Detroit and Columbus are the two wildcard teams in that. Its gonna take more than just winning today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 Just now, Commandant said: Habs are 5 points out of the wildcard..... Detroit and Columbus are the two wildcard teams in that. Its gonna take more than just winning today. Yeah I edited just before you posted Reading without glasses gets me again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 We barely got by a dismal San Jose team. Missing Guhle, missing C depth (a problem soon to be compounded by an Evans trade). The wild card is nice to think about, but highly unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 10 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: We barely got by a dismal San Jose team. Missing Guhle, missing C depth (a problem soon to be compounded by an Evans trade). The wild card is nice to think about, but highly unlikely. It’s definitely a long shot but it will be exciting to still have a chance at a wildcard with 6 games left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Winnipeg barely got by a dismal San Jose team the game before. I’m pretty sure they are doing fine. Other teams are going through injuries just as serious as ours. I’m not expecting a playoff birth or anything but if we are close to a spot by deadline day, I don’t see why we can’t trade for someone ourselves to improve the squad and/or keep a player like Evans. I know I’m on an island with the thought, but losing Evans for nothing, rather than acquiring a second round draft pick isn’t a big deal to me. Of course, if we lose a few games before the deadline and Buffalo finds themselves within 4 points of the Habs with two games in hand, feel free to trade away. It was only a few weeks ago where we were 5-6 points behind Detroit and a week two later we were 5-6 points ahead of them. Now, Detroit is once again ahead of us by the same amount of points. There is still plenty of hockey left to be played, including against the teams we are battling with. Tie this in with the fact that the Habs have a relatively decent schedule in April, and the chance is still there. Again, I don’t have any expectations of us making the playoffs but I do believe we are currently in the thick of things and the next few days, as well as the specific things offered in return, should indeed help Hughes make up his mind when it comes to how to proceed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Habs could be back in wildcard contention soon I could be happy just finishing ahead of the Bruins 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: Winnipeg barely got by a dismal San Jose team the game before. I’m pretty sure they are doing fine. Other teams are going through injuries just as serious as ours. I’m not expecting a playoff birth or anything but if we are close to a spot by deadline day, I don’t see why we can’t trade for someone ourselves to improve the squad and/or keep a player like Evans. I know I’m on an island with the thought, but losing Evans for nothing, rather than acquiring a second round draft pick isn’t a big deal to me. Of course, if we lose a few games before the deadline and Buffalo finds themselves within 4 points of the Habs with two games in hand, feel free to trade away. It was only a few weeks ago where we were 5-6 points behind Detroit and a week two later we were 5-6 points ahead of them. Now, Detroit is once again ahead of us by the same amount of points. There is still plenty of hockey left to be played, including against the teams we are battling with. Tie this in with the fact that the Habs have a relatively decent schedule in April, and the chance is still there. Again, I don’t have any expectations of us making the playoffs but I do believe we are currently in the thick of things and the next few days, as well as the specific things offered in return, should indeed help Hughes make up his mind when it comes to how to proceed. I get the feeling from Hughes’ comments over the last month that he hopes to use Armia, Evans as part of a hockey trade to improve the team currently. No draft picks I would be onboard with that. I wonder how much the Dach injury will influence Hughes’ approach to Evans. It would be tough to replace two of your starting centres. Habs could cover those positions but not very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I definitely agree with making a hocky trade rather than piling up picks. Whether our disposable bottom-6 guys can get us back any real value in a hockey trade is another question. I'm sure Evans/Armia are tempting to contenders, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 14 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I definitely agree with making a hocky trade rather than piling up picks. Whether our disposable bottom-6 guys can get us back any real value in a hockey trade is another question. I'm sure Evans/Armia are tempting to contenders, but still. Habs can always add draft picks to an Armia, Evans trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 34 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I definitely agree with making a hocky trade rather than piling up picks. Whether our disposable bottom-6 guys can get us back any real value in a hockey trade is another question. I'm sure Evans/Armia are tempting to contenders, but still. Hockey trades don't happen so much at the trade deadline, contenders are generally willing to give up futures for help now. But a future could be a very good prospect as opposed to another pick. Hughes has to trade Evans if he can't sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Hockey trades don't happen so much at the trade deadline, contenders are generally willing to give up futures for help now. But a future could be a very good prospect as opposed to another pick. Hughes has to trade Evans if he can't sign him. You get the best assets you can for Evans right now..... then in the summer those assets, including draft picks, can be used to acquire NHL ready players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 5 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: It's a rare case where I actually feel sympathy for an opposition fanbase. The Sabres have a colourful history and have loyal, long-suffering fans in an unglamorous city. They deserve better than this unending nightmare. They're also Exhibit A for why tanking is anything but a magic bullet. Well. It's also team management after the tank. Eichel, Reinhardt, O'Reilly, Ullmark, Hagel, Dahlin looks like a winning core. Their mismanagement over the last 10 years should be a case study on how not to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 12 minutes ago, Commandant said: You get the best assets you can for Evans right now..... then in the summer those assets, including draft picks, can be used to acquire NHL ready players. Agreed, Hughes quite likely will have to accept some picks to make the right trade now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 hours ago, tomh009 said: I could be happy just finishing ahead of the Bruins 🙂 i would be OK finishing 1 point behind Boston if we don't make the playoffs. I still remember the 2014 draft, they drafted 1 spot ahead of us, they took Pastrnak, we took Scherbak. Ouch!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Hughes doesn’t have to trade Evans for picks if the Habs are in the mix and the return isn’t appealing. Losing a pending UFA for nothing isn’t necessarily poor asset management if your team makes the playoffs. That’s why teams pay for rentals. In this case, the rental is already on the team. It’s fine that people are following the statistics and are already writing the Habs off from possibly making the playoffs but after a few more games those statistics may change. Trading Evans, now that Dach is out for the season, is effectively throwing the towel in on the season and every player in the locker room will know that. Hughes has already stated that they won’t accept less than a second rounder. Someone will probably offer that, so you guys will get your wish. For me, it’s a meh. Sure we can package the pick for some other players in the future but it’s still a meh. If we lose the next few games, then go for it. Even though it will still be nothing that really excites me (unless it is as some have suggested a prospect we can already have an opinion on). In this case we have a player who is more valuable than his trade value simply because of the intangibles he brings. A second rounder may turn out to have more skill than Evans, but they will be hard pressed to replicate the defensive elements and energy that Evans can bring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: Hughes doesn’t have to trade Evans for picks if the Habs are in the mix and the return isn’t appealing. Losing a pending UFA for nothing isn’t necessarily poor asset management if your team makes the playoffs. That’s why teams pay for rentals. In this case, the rental is already on the team. It’s fine that people are following the statistics and are already writing the Habs off from possibly making the playoffs but after a few more games those statistics may change. Trading Evans, now that Dach is out for the season, is effectively throwing the towel in on the season and every player in the locker room will know that. Hughes has already stated that they won’t accept less than a second rounder. Someone will probably offer that, so you guys will get your wish. For me, it’s a meh. Sure we can package the pick for some other players in the future but it’s still a meh. If we lose the next few games, then go for it. Even though it will still be nothing that really excites me (unless it is as some have suggested a prospect we can already have an opinion on). In this case we have a player who is more valuable than his trade value simply because of the intangibles he brings. A second rounder may turn out to have more skill than Evans, but they will be hard pressed to replicate the defensive elements an energy that Evans can bring. I like your optimism, but realistically we aren't making the playoffs. The run before 4 nations sealed it and 3 wins since then doesn't change things. I hope Hughes sells all the players he isn't re-signing. If he can get Evans to re-sign a reasonable deal, sure.... but otherwise its time to get assets and reload. Yes we should throw in the towel on the year. And even if we get draft picks, that doesnt mean we have to even use that second rounder to draft an 18 year old... It could be part of a summer trade to go for it next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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