sakiqc Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 I heard that rumour from RDS (Jacques Demers) and it was also on the Ottawa citizen if i'm right, but there is a rumour about Ryan Smyth being involved in trade talks with Montreal. IMO, it's more "journalists thinking" about what would likely look as a possible trade. Probably there was no talks yet. With Edmonton probably not doing the playoffs and Smyth at 3.5M$ and possibly no hockey next season, it is a more than likely move for the Oilers. And what they would want is good prospects.. and as I know, the Habs have the best prospects depth in the league. I'm not the one who'd vote to trade all our prospects, but is there a better player than Ryan Smyth that we can trade a good or 2 prospects for? At 27 he has the perfect profile for be one of this team leader for years to come. A player with heart, intensity, TALENT, size. And when Perezhogin, Kasts and co comes up, they will have real players to look at and inspire. On the same way, that will boost Zednik. Imagine if Smyth brings some energy to Zednik!!! We would have 2 Smyth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toren Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 The problem I have with trading youth to get Smyth would be that he takes shifts and sometimes games off. He's lazy from time to time. He's also injury prone. I just don't want to trade two good prospects for a guy who's sleeping in between injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 I would trade for smyth... We can afford to lose 1 or 2 prospects becaus I think we really have lots of them. Maybe send them Hossa and a pick or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch_nl Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Mmmm... Ryan Smyth... That would be tasty. But I am affraid that it's just speculation. Smyth will play for Edmonton his whole life. And if he doesn't he will end up in Calgary. That's destiny. Just take a look at his name and the place he was born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeppa Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 damn, he would look so nice with Ryder and Koivu! :/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I've seen/read this rumour from 3 places now , the Bruce G Ottawa Sun story , and from RDS and Sportsnet on tv... I'm not sure if RDS/Sportsnet are re-reporting the Bruce rumour though... Might be something to it... I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toren Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 We need a guy like Ryan Smyth, I just don't want to pay too much for him. The last thing we need is to get the injury bug back in Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeppa Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 He's worth taking a chance on, he's only 27 and can bring much over the coming years. He would be the first line left winger we miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hossa has been playing like crap this year. He is way too inconsistant, and whatever scout said he'll be a better overall player than Marian, needs to be fired. Hossa being traded would be a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habby1197 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hossa and Hainsey for Smyth? I rather only trade 1 and a pick, but I guess whatever has to get done... will get done. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/edm30.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingjaarl Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Oilers aren't going to let go of Smyth for as little as a couple of iffy prospects. Look at what phoenix had to let go to get Comrie. The habs would have to part with a top six winger (Bulis?) and a prospect/pick at the very least.:hlogo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Bulis, Hossa and a pick? Where do I sign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingjaarl Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I was thinking they'd ask for Komisarek and a top 6 forward... no way would I give up on Komi .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I wouldn't trade Komisarek for anyone but Chris Pronger or Jay Bouwmeester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonavistaman11 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Edmonton always seems to give up more then what they get in return. So why wouldn't they be satisfied with a couple prospects? i think they'd take, Hossa, maybe Beauchemin and a draft pick. Habs have a lot of players in Hamilton that they could use to get Smyth. :ghg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Montreal is trading from a position of strength. The Oilers are trading from a position of weakness. When is the last really good trade you've seen the Oilers make? Lowe is very overrated. Dvorak for Carter? Bad trade Niinamaa for Isbister? Bad trade Comrie for Woywitka? They desperatly needed his offense The Oates signing has been TERRIBLE Lowe doesn't seem to be the sharpest pencil in the box. I think we could pick his pocket with this one. [Edited on 2004/2/11 by Leafs Suck] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 You have to remember that factors like money play into all of Edmonton (and other small market teams) deals. Lowe had no choice but to trade Janne , and Carter , the team just could not afford them , or could not afford to re-sign them... Same case for Smyth now , he'll make near $4 million next year. BTW : The Carter for Dvorak trade also included Pisa (to nyr) and Cross (to edm) , Edmonton did pretty well in that deal. Dvorak has been solid for the Oilers , and Cross has been one of their top d-men (though the Oilers D aint great to begin with) ... Carter is one of the most over-rated players in the NHL imo , way too inconsitant. Ohhh yeah... Poti and Rem Murray for Mike York (and 4th rounder) was a pretty good deal by Lowe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 York was a good trade, but thats only one trade. Dvorak and Isbister, who were their two keys to those trades, are busts. I am sure, very sure, that Lowe could have gotten alot more for Niinamaa and Carter than those two and Cory Cross (who will not be confused with Bobby Orr anytime soon). [Edited on 2004/2/12 by Leafs Suck] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 This isnt about Smyth... but did anyone else read the Habs/Caps rumour on hfboards today? Goes something like... On a radio station in Washington , it was rumoured that a deal between caps/montreal was in works... Brendan Witt , for Ron Hainsey and a pick. What do you think? Me? ... I like Witt , he's one tough d-man. Solid as a rock defensively , little to no offensive ability , but a hard hitter , and a veteren (especially on the caps young D) ... But , he is very injury prone. As for the deal... I think its too much to give up for Witt , Hainsey is a top notch prospect , and ontop of that we'd have to add a draft pick? All this for a defensive d-man? Who is prone to injuries? No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAussiePosse Posted February 14, 2004 Share Posted February 14, 2004 i've seen witt play, and there is a reason that he's called "tWitt" by his team mates. He takes stupid penalties, and a hell of a thorn in the ass if he's not your leader. no thanks at all. also, caps need veteran Dmen, not AHL rookies. and with hainsey's potential, it would be more like hainsey for witt and a pick. but yeah, screw it, i'd rather go with the youth movement that we are heading towards, and keep our troubled youths for better deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted February 14, 2004 Share Posted February 14, 2004 Takes stupid penalties andwould rather make a big hit then be in position. Sounds like Bryan McCabe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted February 14, 2004 Share Posted February 14, 2004 Originally posted by TheAussiePossealso, caps need veteran Dmen, not AHL rookies. and with hainsey's potential, it would be more like hainsey for witt and a pick. What the Caps need and what they do are two completely different things. I don't want Witt, but as far as the Caps go, they are in salaray purge mode. Why do you think they traded Jagr, and are looking to move Gonchar, Lang, Bondra, etc? It isn't because they don't need those players, it's because they need to dump salaray. I mean c'mon, the Caps let Ken Klee get away for nothing last year because they thought he would be too expensive for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan88 Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 Unload youth for Smyth?? that's crazy. Okay, smyth is a great player and is good at playmaking as well as scoring, but come on, I do not think this is the Habs guy they want, especially trading away our youth for him! If we have any hopes for the canadiens to be more developed, trading away our youth is bazarre. also, although smyth is a good player, he's just adding to the small size of the club. a player of O'neill/comrie calibur would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 Originally posted by habsfan88Unload youth for Smyth?? that's crazy. Okay, smyth is a great player and is good at playmaking as well as scoring, but come on, I do not think this is the Habs guy they want, especially trading away our youth for him! If we have any hopes for the canadiens to be more developed, trading away our youth is bazarre. also, although smyth is a good player, he's just adding to the small size of the club. a player of O'neill/comrie calibur would be good. I dunno. Smyth is only 28 , some of our "youth" , Hainsey and Hossa for instance , is 21 .... Thats only a 7 year difference , Smyth is just entering his prime and has alot of good years ahead of him. Sometimes when have to sacrifice youth to make important trades , especially when that trade involves a type of player which your team has been lacking for years and desparately needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonavistaman11 Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 I hope something soon happens. The team is looking disgraceful again, i cant imagine wathicng these guys in a playoff series, nervously wondering before each period which team is gonna come out of the dressing room. (The team that dominates almost all of the play, the team that gives half of an effort, or the team that simply just doesn;t show up at all) Something has to be done. Does anyone know if Lecavalier would be available, Due to the controversy with the coach??? I doubt it, but this would be a guy i'd love to see in a habs uniform! :ghg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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