zumpano21 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Just musing to myself about how great a year Saku is enjoying, especially as of late, when the thought occurred to me, "Does Koivu have the right stuff to make the Hall?" Between all the adversity (lymphoma, the eye injury, the ACL tear on top of everything else) he still plays like a fireball, averaging one point a night when healthy. Personally, I don't think he has the stats and he tends to be underrated BUT if he can lead this team to a Cup and potentially pick up a Conn Smythe on the way, his stature might change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Nope. Great story, inspirational leader, but not close to Hall of Fame material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 If he can play like this for a few years and get a cup or two under his belt then yes. He has all the assets of a hall of famer cailbre player, but bad luck has always kept him from achieving the recognition he deserves (him being underrated is good for us tho, cuz then we dont have to pay him sundin/richards money). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 he would have a chance on a poor year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataclaw Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 A resounding "yes". Not yet, of course, but if Saku stays healthy and keeps playing great for a couple more years, it's entirely possible. Especially if the Canadiens win a cup sometime soon.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Great story and greta player but I think you need more than a a goal every 4 games to make the Hall of Fame. He'd need atleast a Cup and a major award. Maybe an 100 point season. It doesn't look possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 You guys might be overrating the Hall of Fame. Lanny MacDonald and Dick Duff are in there, and so is Clark Gilles. What drives me batty is that if Koivu were a Leaf, he'd be a legend by now - a national hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Lanny McDonald is not a good argument against Koivu. Averaged more points per game (So far with Koivu, of course) and he broke the all important 500 goal barrier. Dick Duff, yeah, those stats aren't Hall worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Absolutley no way is he hall of fame material. Even if Montreal should win a Stanley Cup in the next few years. Montreal would have to win atleast 2 cups and he would have to start producing atleast a point a game from here on out if he were to have any chance. But I don't see it happening. He's a great story and a great person, but that doesn't make him Hall of Fame worthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Saku would need at least a cup and a Con Smythe and he might be worthy but it will be very though, the hhof is not just about NHL he has good international numbers and his playoff numbers are great. AS of right now I would say it is about 1 in 100 shot of getting in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSharpMarble Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Gimme a break, Koivu was the only thing good on this team since Roy left. He is easily our equivalent to Sundin and a very classy player. He has faced greater adversity then any player I can think of and is still more than deserving of being our captain. I couldnt honestly care about stats in a situation like this. If he isnt inducted I think the "Fame" at the end of HHOF should be changed to "Shame" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smon Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Well, what he means to Montreal isn't the deciding factor. It comes down mostly to pure stats, and his injuries have limited his numbers. For sure, if his play picks up in the next few seasons, he might have an outside chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deker Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Koivu is a great player, but like Dick Duff, he'll end up in the HHOF from 30 years after he retires or when there's no other good players to put in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnmarty Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 nice player and will go down as one of the most underrated Habs of all-time but he definitely won't make the hall of fame. winning the gold medal in turin would've helped a bit and so would a cup but the stats just aren't there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aebischer4life Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Koivu >> Alfredsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Koivu is a great player, but like Dick Duff, he'll end up in the HHOF from 30 years after he retires or when there's no other good players to put in. there'll always be good players to put in... there's a whole generation of good to great players not even born yet... as to Duff, isn't he there in the category of builders like the Molsons (or am I just being a homer there?) GO :hlogo: GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 his #11 will be retired in Montreal, that's the greatest honor any hockey player can achieve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mont Royale Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 there'll always be good players to put in... there's a whole generation of good to great players not even born yet... as to Duff, isn't he there in the category of builders like the Molsons (or am I just being a homer there?) GO :hlogo: GO! No, Dick Duff made it as a player, for both Toronto and Montreal. There was somebody else inducted in the builders category this year... someone from the Calgary Flames I think. As for Duff being in the Hall of Fame, most of us haven't seen him play, so we should probably suspend judgement. His offensive stats aren't the greatest, but we don't know what else he brought to the game. Success counts for a lot, and he was part of 6 Stanley Cup victories. his #11 will be retired in Montreal, that's the greatest honor any hockey player can achieve A smiley isn't required after that statement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zowpeb Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 If Koivu does get his number retired in Montreal then he deserves to get into the HHOF. Clearly, it's harder to get a number retired by the Habs...lol Remember who votes for the HHOF. I think he's got a legit shot at getting years down the road. It is certainly not always about stats for the voters. If he wins a Cup and a Con Smythe I think that would make him a lock IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortHanded Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 If Koivu does get his number retired in Montreal then he deserves to get into the HHOF. Clearly, it's harder to get a number retired by the Habs...lol Remember who votes for the HHOF. I think he's got a legit shot at getting years down the road. It is certainly not always about stats for the voters. If he wins a Cup and a Con Smythe I think that would make him a lock IMHO. Something tells me that if the Habs win the cup in the next couple of years, Huet will be the Con Smythe winner ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleHills Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I would say no. His number, however, will be retired when his career is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I would say no. His number, however, will be retired when his career is over. Now that would be a travesty. With all the Hall of Famers the Habs have, it would be ridiculous to retire the number of a non-Hall of Famer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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