THE Bobby Orr
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8 minutes ago, Stogey24 said:
Ok bud. Bit of a stretch there
how is this a stretch when the GM says in very clear words that he is a winger??? He cannot crack a line-up that has 5 other centers ahead of him. He simply is not a center ...by the logic of some ppl here if Galchenyuk is a #1-2 center then i could just as easily say Pax or Radu or Arturi should be a C. But i wouldn't be taken seriously but (LOL) i.m supposed to take someone who is delusional about this player seriously. sorry take a cold shower. last time i looked, MB CJ, Muller are still running the show and Chucky's playing center well... that ship has sailed.
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i am saying that galchenyuk is not a center...and you don;t have to take my opinion seriously
Ps..i don't take your opinion too seriously either M...Chuck is 6th C on the Habs depth chart behind Ott and Michell...behind Shaw...he is sixth in the minds of MT, Muller, Julien and MB. But soemhow i'm supposed to take you seriously??? Really ? yeaah right...have a good summer bro. and keep drinking plently of that kool-aid
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42 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:
I think only Arizona has a worse top six if Galchenyuk is at the wing. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't think of another team with a weaker top six than Danault/Plekanec except Dvorak/Martinook.
By my estimation, the bottom five top six centre duos in the league would be:
26. Carolina Staal/Rask
27. New Jersey Zajac/Henrique
28. Detroit Zetterberg/Nielsen
29. Montreal Danault/Plekanec
30. Arizona Dvorak/Martinook
Galchenyuk/Plekanec will fall to 30th...no difference
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1 hour ago, DON said:
That's one way to go, obviously you wont replace his goal production and will need to pay more for said centre, but which centre is that good and also available? I think the number would be vey low, but some team may be deep at centre and wants a finisher...I just don't know what team that could be? Florida, Sabres, Aves, or Oilers maybe?
let's swap positions - put Max at center...haha ...why not? we spent 4 years trying to make Chucky a center. Max has size, can skate, can score goals...put him in the middle with Chucky and Radu...or Gally. This is a tongue-in-cheek suggestion of course...but the idea of trading one of the most consistent (NHL top-tier) leading scorer on a team that has problems scoring doesn't seem right.
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5 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Yeah, we have great 'leadership' and 'character.' But, y'know, we're 'fragile.'
What a schmuck.
..words matter !!! A GM should not be describing his team as fragile EVEN if it is (im not sure what fragile means in this context but wtv).
IMO this guy has lost it...
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7 hours ago, Meller93 said:
According to Bergevin Galchenyuk's immediate future is on the wing. Because we all know centers learn to hone their defense game best when they have no time to practice that position.
but he isn't a C...this is what no one here is willing to admit. He isn't a center....repeat 1000000 times
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MB also said that the team is "fragile"...what does that even mean?
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I just heard MB being interviewed...he was asked about Price... and MB said he's not going anywhere...
Also heard CJ talk about Galchenyuk. . He said Chucky is not ready (yet) for the #1C job...needs to work on his blah blah blah...they both had a good talk and blah blah blah...he didn't put him on the top line because blah blah blah Basically its the same stuff we've heard before
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did MB?
Wiki - Damphousse was a member of the National Hockey League Players' Association (NHLPA) executive committee, serving as vice president under Trevor Linden.
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replace MB with Vincent Damphousse as GM...don't laugh. I really think this is going to happen.
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If Price gets traded then MB has been a total failure IMO...first PK and then Price (not to mention the hack job on Galcheyuk)...MB can write a bestseller : How I Facked Up the HABS
instead of trading Price let's just get rid of MB.
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16 minutes ago, illWill said:
I totally agree that Galchenyuk should be allowed to do what he does best out there and that he has the skill to be able to do it. But I'm starting to get to the point that I'm wondering what it is that management is seeing in him that is so negative. Therrien kept rotating him between center and the wing, the highly accredited Julian had him buried on the 4th line, Team North America didn't pick him and now I just read that Team USA didn't even ask him to play for them at the World Cup. Are we all overvaluing him? Because we can't afford for our highest draft pick in a generation to be a bust, and I sure hope he isn't.
I started getting the point when he came back from injury (that's when i started this discussion) ....sure defensive skills can be taught...but here we are 4+ years later and he seems to be regressing...apologist can't seem to see that MAYBE, just maybe - he is the problem ...also you forgot to mention Muller who i am sure works with the kid. that's just too many coaches and organizations who have decided he isn't good enough. Right now (under Julien) this is the pecking order at Center...Danault, Plex, Shaw, Ott, Mitchell, not even sure Chucky is sixth...
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45 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:
He plays best down the middle. He's a centre.
But maybe you're into something with Pacioretty. Maybe we should move him for a centre?
i hope you're kidding...he is not good down the middle.. geez..come on MoLG?? Don't start with the numbers...his wingers are chasing the puck all game long. and covering up for his bone-headed mistakes...Max won't play with him at center...its just too facking frustrating to chase pucks each and every game
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okay...let's put it another way. Would you put Max at center? why not? we need a center, don;t we? he's got size, he can score ...the simple answer is that Max will never move to center because he isn't a center..simple answer, yes? Well same applies to Galchenyuk. he simply is not a C.
I believe he can be a Phil Kessel-type player ...not sure CJ would like that though
PS. I am a dork...and yes for a 6'1" young stud he plays rather soft...then again the whole team does, except for Gally and Arturi...btw, Chucky can take a lesson or two from both Gally and Arturi.
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maybe its about "coachability" and/or lack thereof. Even if you are a die-hard Chucky fan, you have to admit he seems lost out there when he doesn't have the puck. After 4-5 years you would think he would have been coached the crap out of that weakness. I mean never mind Le Genius, what about Muller? and now CJ? As Chris Nilan put it recently on his AM 690 stint - "he skates wit hiss legs widddde opin...he needs ta put his knees togeter and skate..." or something to that effect (close enough)...
I still don't get why he can't be a top line winger instead of a C...anyways its like beating a dead horse on both sides of the argument.
I can't help but think of a situation in game 5 when he was on the PP; he made 3-4 bad plays in less than 45 seconds...patrons at Manoir brasserie were starting to get pissed (wanting him off the ice)...and then he got an assist and we all went nuts - his past faux-pas' were all but forgiven.!!! But think about it from CJ's perspective (or even MT's, if you prefer) - it must to be frustrating as hell for a defense-first type coach like CJ to watch. Does he reward Chucky for the assist? -or- does he nail him for the 4 giveaways? While i agree Galchenyuk has been screwed by "dumb and dumber", he still needs to shoulder some of the responsibility for his on-ice play (spare me the numbers). HE NEEDS to take responsibility for his game... and as of right now, he needs to look himself in the mirror and realize that he is the one making it hard on himself and his coaches... Maybe i am wrong (and i sincerely hope i am) but I don't think #27 will ever be a #1 C in Montreal. That ship has sailed.
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20 minutes ago, DON said:
Good; 1st place all year long, Pacioretty's offense, Price's play most games, adding Shaw, Muller, Radulov, Weber & Lehkonen.
Bad; Beaulieu & McCarron's development, Reway sickness & firing Mikey.
Ugly; Gallagher's broken hand & Plekanec's offense
that was bad...bad for Mikey
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if we go into next season with Danault as our number one center...i will seriously think about cheering for / follow, a western canadian team. (*Prolly not. who am i kidding? love my Habs no matter what)
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Is it to early to do this? List your good, bad and ugly moments/trades/issues attributed to this season.
My first entry
The Good: Claude Julien, ARTURI !!!!
The Bad: Nate Beaulieu - just can't seem to elevate his game another notch
The Ugly: No secondary scoring
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3 minutes ago, DON said:
Got to say, that is one way to look at it and I guess you just cant bring yourself to admit Price was outplayed...for some reason? Maybe because Price being the better goalie was why you (and most, even Vegas?) thought Habs would win the series?
yup...Price wasn't perfect. Hard to blame him on the OT goal...the others, a couple were of the soft variety. I am beginning to notice a shift in sentiment when it comes to Price ...fans are not as forgiving as they used to be when describing Price's performance. It doesn't help when TV and radio analysts over-hype BOTH his achievements and his fumbles.
Bottom line is - Price will be a very good goaltender for many years to come. I don't really care if he isn't considered the "best" in the world. (does it really matter?). I hope he re-signs. At this point there are only two top tier players on this team - Price and Weber...not a bad duo to build around
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3 minutes ago, sbhatt said:
I cannot believe the extent of the "Price got outplayed" narrative in the media. Are you freaking kidding me?! The three most glaring problems with the team, as clearly illustrated by that series, are Marc Bergevin (for failing to put quality centers in this lineup), Max Pacioretty for being a complete no-show as usual when needed most, and Galchenyuk/Bealieu not being where they should be at this stage of their careers.
Carey Price is the only reason this team was able to masquerade as a 100+ point potential contender for much of the season.
yes sir....and same goes for Weber...in my humble opinion, Web was the best, most consistent player on our team. When he isn't on the ice, it shows. When he was off for a fighting major, our D was running around, scrambling.
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i hear Vegas is looking to recruit fans...
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39 minutes ago, habs rule said:
better than mcguire the mouth.
just saying....but Vincent Damphousse does strike me as a smart man...with good hockey IQ...a solid Hab, and he was a good captain, has a SC under his belt (our last one) - at this point i would swap him out with MB in a minute.
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11 minutes ago, l<OV4L3V said:
and what other french speaking GMs are around that you know of?Vincent Damphousse...don't laugh
How many times do you fire GM and/or coach before you realize it's the team??
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MoLG even you have to admit that was a kinda bonehead move from CJ !!! If i'm Chucky, i'm prolly more confused than ever !?! Btw i'm not a troll...although i have lived under the Jacques-Cartier Bridge....You and i are not that far apart on this kid...and your point about the Coyotes being weaker than us down the middle ..well, i just don't get the point. Chucky at center won't win us a SC. If you bothered (and i mean that in a good way) to read my posts on #27; i don't blame this kid for not progressing into becoming a #1-2 C. I know he is young but his performance on the ice (...and i aware of his numbers...) is regressing. And what CJ did to him in the playoffs IMHO cannot help...4th line winger...yo-yoing him up and down and then, with the season on the line, he throws him out there..wtf??
One more trollish comment...i agree that - me repeating something over and over again (even though the current GM has the same opinion) does not make it true. However that works both ways...Sorry if i come across as an ass / troll ....here's to wishing you, and the rest of the troupe, a great summer. And always remember we are all Habs fans here !!!