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    NHL Officials and their Biases

    in Habs & Hockey Talk

    Posted

    The thing that irks me has nothing to do with the Canadiens. It's in general. The 1st Leafs @ Habs game featured Dandenault getting called for hitting a puck carrier along the boards. The puck was 2 feet in front of the Leaf. They called it interference. I learned in bantam that it's a legal clean hit. It was legal.

    Then Kilger gets called for sneezing on Koivu. I was annoyed with both calls which resulted in goals. Kilger did NOTHING wrong.

    Game in and game out regardless of the team we are seeing NONSENSE!

    I don't blame the refs. I blame the NHL for having a loosy goosey calling policy. If you ask "the powers that be" who supervise the refs I bet they would n't be able to clearly tell you what is and what is not an infraction. For crying out loud, I still don't know.

    1-1 and 0-0 is the same difference. LET THEM PLAY!

    And, they did last night. You could have easily called a number of penalties in the 1st. I was a little surprised thinking, "they're REALLY letting them play". My friend concurred.

    Then in the 2nd it's parade to the sin bin.

    What is that?

    This is exactly my point. If you didn't call it in the first, don't call it in the second or the third, however if you were calling it in the first, call it in the second and in the third

    NHL Officials and their Biases

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    Thats just human error. The game is one of quickest professional sports out there and it's hard to get every call 100% right. Not only that, human bias gets in the way of properly evaluating a call. Of course you'll be mad and say it wasn't good if Montreal gets a penalty, I do the same for Colorado.

    I ask you this, if you were able to officiate an NHL game somehow, do you honestly think you'd get everything 100% right?

    No I don't think I'd get everything 100% right. However I would call the game as a neutral party which is what these refs are supposed to be and I would call the same thing both ways.

    NHL Officials and their Biases

    in Habs & Hockey Talk

    Posted

    Penalties against Edmonton: 9. Penalties against Montreal: 4.

    What are you complaining about?

    I'm complaining about the inconsistancy in the calls as well as the phantom calls that are made. I am also wondering if there was a penalty called on the high stick that is in you picture.

    All i'm saying, and this isn't based on last nights game, is collectively the officiating in the nhl is awefull, not just against the habs, not just against the leafs. The entire nhl. It's getting really hard to enjoy a game

    NHL Officials and their Biases

    in Habs & Hockey Talk

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    Maybe it's just me, but no one else see a sever decline in the consistancy of calls as well as the steady decline in the quality of the officials. I know I singled out 2 zebras in my initial post but it's not just them it's all of the refs.

    Next time Dave Jackson refs a habs game watch how tight of a game he calls against the habs compared to the opposing team and then compare it to any other game he calls.

    What I said isn't just something that I began to notice since last friday, this is something I've been noticing since last year.

    As I said maybe it's just me, and if it is I appologise, but I know i'm not the only one who sees this and who is frustrated with this

    NHL Officials and their Biases

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    Good day all fellow habs fans! Just wondering if any of you out there are seeing the same things that I am when it relates to calls being made and not made as well as calls against certian players and not on the rest as well as calls going against one team and not on the other.

    Personally I feel there is an EXTREME LACK of consistancy when it relates to todays NHL CLOWNS, whoops, I mean dignafied officials.

    Lately it seems that the calls are fluctuating between whats being called in the first, isn't being called in the second and then it seems it'l' only be called in the third of the ref's feel like.

    Now don't get me wrong. I am all for the "Zebras" enforcing the rules as they have been put in place to make the game faster and more exciting, but how can the game be faster and more exciting if all there is, is a steady stream to the penalty box.

    This doesn't just apply to Mick McGeouh's major brain **** on friday night, that ended up costing Craig MacTavish 10 large, but look at what happened Saturday night in the Habs - Devils game. Let me set the scene....

    2nd Period. A Devils player gets pushed into the habs net by a habs defenceman, that's fine, however, the rule states that a player, if pushed into the goalies crease, must make an attempt to get out of it. NO ATTEMPT WAS MADE. THE ONLY EFFORT THE PLAYER IN THE CREASE ( BEHIND HUET ) WAS TO BLOCK HIS FACE FROM BEING HIT BY THE GAME WINNING GOAL. Allow me to also say that Dave " I hate Montreal " Jackson was standing right there and there was no call, But earlier in ther period Downey got called for interfering with Brodeur when in reality Brodeur was out of his crease and exagerated the little contact to an Academy award winning degree.

    Why is it everyone in the arean, at any given time is held accountable for their actions, whether it be the coach, equipment manager, that guy who sells 12$ coke's and 20$ ice cream, hell even Youppi are held accountable for the actions but for some unknown top secret reasons ref's get off scott free or in the case of Mick " spastic " McGeough a simple comment to the media " Yeah I blew the call".

    This has got to stop and the refs really need to be put under a microscope and held accountable for their actions. Now I am not just saying this because I love the habs, I love the game and it's getting harder and harder to enjoy as these clowns with orange bands on their arms are getting away with "murder". Whats it going to take before something changes???? Maybe, god forbid but maybe a marquee player needs to be fatally injured or something before the league opens it's eyes and not just the revenue books.

    GO HABS GO!!!!

    How to contact a member of the Habs

    in Habs & Hockey Talk

    Posted

    I was wondering if anybody new a sure fire way to get in contact with any member of the habs team. The reason for this is very simple. My nephew / godson is being baptized on November 5 and we as a family not only want him to be christened into the irsih catholic church but also as a habs fan.

    We are trying to get a mini stick autographed as well as a kids jersey signed by the entire team so we can give it to my nephew. I am not expecting the team to privde the stick or jersey all that will be supplied at our expense I just really want this to happen as it would mean so much to us as die hard habs fans.

    Any ideas or info would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks fellow die hards.

    P.s. If this post isn't in the right section please keep it open if possible and move it over to where it would be best suited.

    Should The Habs Pick Up Nedved?

    in Habs & Hockey Talk

    Posted

    I say no to Nedved. He may be a centre, but then so is Jason Allison. We didn't pick him up either.

    Off-topic, but I see that you're a fellow H.I.M. fan. What did you think of their latest album Dark Light?

    I loved it, loved it, loved it, bets song on the album is Killing Lonliness. However I am very dissapointed that Ville and the rest of the band canceled their north american tour. I was really looking forward to going to T.O. for the show.

    Why No Hitting.....

    in Habs & Hockey Talk

    Posted

    Yeah, these first few games are really meant for the vets to stretch their groins, get the feel of the puck back, and let those arrogant young guns show their stuff.

    In the last few exhibition games, you tend to see teams get more serious as they are more comfortable out there and typically have the season roster on the ice.

    This isn't necessarily completely true as I am sure you will see a hard hitting game on both friday and saturday angainst the MAPLE LAUGHS

    Here Come The Montreal Canadiens

    in Habs & Hockey Talk

    Posted

    Therrien's emotions were on display fairly regularly, as I recall... most infamously during the series against Carolina, leading to a bench minor. In any case, public displays of emotion aren't necessary to win hockey games, as Bob showed last season.

    Very true, but at the same time comparing THE BOB to Therrien is like making change for a 3$ bill. Gainey has no need to show emotion because of what he did during his career. I'm just saying it would of been nice to see Therrien get a little more involved than what he did.

    Here Come The Montreal Canadiens

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    Posted · Edited by Drivefor25

    1- Carbo is a rookie coach. I loved him as a player, believe he could be a very good coach, but he remains nonetheless a big question mark.

    3- Huet. I believe he`s the real deal but this will be his first shot at beginning an NHL season as a #1 goalie. I have confidence in him, but he is nonetheless another question mark.

    4- Grit and size. Not enough of it, particularly on the enforcer front. Ok, some people will say that in today`s NHL you don`t need an enforcer. I disagree. Just having a heavyweight present that keeps other teams in line allows your skilled players to do their thing. We just don`t have that.

    All this being said, here`s my prediction:

    - Ribeiro finally gets it, grows up, gets serious, and has a career year between Sammy and Kovy. He finishes the season as the Habs top scorer with 82 points.

    - Huet is the real deal and leads the league in shutouts and GAA behind the Habs great defensive team play.

    - The rookies (or sophomores for that matter) breakout and the future looks better than ever.

    You heard it right here.

    The things I left from your post Chuko are very key, however i'd like to put a spin on some of what you said...

    Point 1) Carbo by title is a rookie coach, but who do you think really led the Habs in 2002?? It wasn't Therrien, I mean look at Pittsburgh and Wilkes Barrie, well not so much the latter but you get what I mean. Therrien only showed emotion when Maclaren elbowed Zed. That was the most emotion he ever showed, was during that throat slashing gesture.

    Point 3) Huet, I think this guy feeds off the crowd. That said, I think he's been dying for this season to start since the Habs got eliminated and the crowd was still chanting his name even after the players left the ice. He'll be just as good if not better. I'm thinking Brian Bouchers' longest shutout streak is going to be obliterated by Huet.

    Point 4) Grit and size: one word Begin! This guy is like a small dog, doesn't realize how small he is and will deliberately go after the biggest dog in the yard.

    As for Ribs getting 82 points???? I'd love to see it, but I just don't think he has the staying power. Someone will hit the 80 mark but I feel it's going to be either Kovalev or Perezhogin, possibly even Latendresse ( that is if he drops the attitude he had during the world juniors)

    Huet = Vezina and Hart trophy and dare I say it Conn Smythe

    Last but not least the rookies.... I'm feeling the Calder trophy.

    One last thing, I know this is wishfull thinking and all but If the Habs do it this year and end the cup drought I'm calling Guy Carbonneau for the Jack Adams trophy.

    :hlogo: GO HABS GO :hlogo:

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