Lovett's Magnatones
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Radulov signs in Dallas 5/30.
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On 6/30/2017 at 11:04 PM, Lovett's Magnatones said:
Imagine...
Markov and Radulov walk
MB signs Alzner 5/30
Then a buyout reject for 1/1.5 (Stuart or Squid)
And an announcement of 8/US GDP for Carey Price
MB then comes out and says, "expect the stupid" in a joint presser with Jim Benning.
FIRETHISMAN
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GarbageBin signs more garbage. Another retirement deal for a journeyman bandaid boy. He's good for 7-10 goals and 25 plus on LTIR.
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7 hours ago, Commandant said:
Price is 29.
Youve tried twice and failed on his age?
Google is your friend.
Why don't you Google? He's got an August birthday, and the season starts in October, last I checked.
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28 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Price isnt any of those things. You even got the age wrong
Typo, 31...does anybody outside of Montreat believe he's the "greatest goalie in the world?"
Murray - 2 cups
Bob - 2 Vezinas
Lundqvist - Won a head to head series; fans also believe he's the best in the world, and have been telling anybody that will listen for years.
Rask - Has a Vezina, worse head to head record.
I would say Price is in a group of four or five elite goalies. As for injuries, he missed an entire year, the end of two playoffs, can't play back to backs or two in three nights.
Greg Wyshynski makes a good comparison to Lundqvist and his idiotic deal:
"All of this is true. And if Carey Price were 27 instead of 31 when this contract starts, perhaps it’s easier to swallow. But he’s going to be the same age that Lundqvist was when he starter his seven-year extension with the Rangers.
Three years into it, Lundqvist posted his most ordinary season in the NHL with a .910 save percentage, failing to garner a single vote for the Vezina for the first time in his career. There was less talk about Lundqvist as a dominant goalie than there was about trying to convince him to accept a trade in the near future."
All in all, these goalies and their monster deals are like trophy wifes-simply not worth the trouble, and a nice, normal wife will be less of a headache at half the price. Frankly, with this deal and the Oshie deal, it's hard not to think there's another round of buyouts coming with the CBA.
To be a complete cynic, GarbageBin said “We’re going to make sure he finishes as a Montreal Canadien and to me that’s a big thing.” Why? He hasn't won a god damned thing besides a second round series against the Bruins. Who cares? This group of Habs isn't going down in the books, Price included.
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2 hours ago, Trizzak said:
He says while judging someone else...
Just another day in this lifestyle.
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5 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:
Gameplan was to trade for Drouin to replace Radulov. Pretty clear.
Idiotic game plan, innit? Give up the organization's premier prospect that fills a great need to get what you can get for free.
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12 minutes ago, Trizzak said:
This is really childish.
As a player in this life, we all have to do dirt. But I never turned my guns on somebody that wasn't in the game. Only God can judge me.
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12 minutes ago, Stogey24 said:
I don't know why you got a -1 for that. Having won cups with a team is leverage in negotiations
DON downvotes any post he doesn't agree with. That's ok. I down voted 15 of his posts today, the max. I'll fix his wagon.
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You know what? Who cares? Bergevin has never landed anybody really good in free agency and can't trade for what we need. Failed regime. If he saved money on Price's deal, Bergevin would blow it on third line grinders, second pairing dmen, and turds. Assuming that any solid NHL goalie costs 4-6 million at the cheapest.
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13 hours ago, Commandant said:
If you trade Pleks, and give Markov 2 years the problem is you have no space for Price's extension.
Plek coming off the books is Price's money.
If Plek is moved to make room, great, but Markov better be 1 year so that there is room for Price's money.
It's pretty effing ridiculous they're hamstringing the team in maybe its last year to make some real noise to break the bank on a 32 year old, oft injured, never won nuthin' goalie who will be four seasons away from his best year.
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43 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I totally agree with that goal, without denying how hard it is. To pull it off would have required superior drafting and development. Instead this regime has delivered the exact opposite, relying entirely upon the core it inherited from the previous, far superior Gainey regime; and you're dead right that the likeliest outcome is a lost decade, once this core starts to decline.
You make a good point about GMs in general. They do tend to lose the big picture as season after season unfolds and they get ensnared in the day-to-day battles. You look at some of MB's decisions - trading PK in a snit over his self-promotion and because of an irrational blaming of the 2016 disaster on 'leadership;' sticking with Therrien when it was obvious to everyone that he should go; standing by Lefebvre no matter what; relentless faith in players and impressions from his Chicago glory days; firing the advanced stats guy who defended PK - you see a guy who is NOT thinking coldly about the big picture, not demanding excellence no matter what, but rather allowing personal responses to cloud his judgement. This organization will be gutted by the time he is fired.
One thing I really give Bergevin credit for is that people are loyal to him. The organization never leaks, unless it's a big order of business like the Subban trade, contrasted with the slow drip of leaks during the Burke/Nonis era of the Leafs. Of course, if I was Sylvain "Job for life" Lefevbre, I would be loyal too.
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23 minutes ago, Davehab said:
Signing Alzner means that the second pairing is set with him and Petry. This also means that petry is going to have to play more offensively from now on because he is the only guy in the top four that has a good transition game.
That being said, Petry can be scary when he is relied on to carry too much of the offence. I've always thought he makes mistakes when his ice time gets too high.
Lets hope that there is something else coming on D. To help spread the puck possession around.
Maybe we're figuring it wrong and Petry-Alzner are going to be the first pairing?
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50 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Ha ha, remember the early years when we used to talk about how MB was out to build a 'pernanent contender?' ???
I laud him for that goal. You have to think big. Sounds like Trump saying "we will win so much, we will get tired of all the winning." But he lost sight of what he had and didn't make the final steps when the team was close. I remember the early deadline days when he sat on his thumbs to create a teachable moment. I also remember complaining about DD, Plekanec, and Eller at center. Those guys (at the time) are better than what we have now by a mile.
I have this theory on GMs, that the further they get from their hire, the more they lose their vision and turn inward. When he signs players like Byron Froese that he scouted in Chicago, it makes it seem like he's stuck in the hey-day of the Western Conference. Then, the other theory I have, is when GMs take over a new team, they can spend up to two years fixing obvious mistakes. These moves go over with the fans, as they should, but in the long term, scouting/development/results become the yard stick. As Michel Therrien would say, MB vs a real deal GM like Peter Chiarelli, Ray Shero, or Stan Bowman is "mens against boys."
My fear is that the Habs have become just another crappy Canadian team. It's easy to envision a poor man's Vancouver where we try to win with Weber and Carey Price when they're a billion years old.
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19 minutes ago, Stogey24 said:
Another immobile d-core man
You thought they were boring last year. Just wait when they're hemmed in their own end game after game
Just wait until 2021 when Weber is washed up, Alzner looks like Murray Baron, Shaw is on permanent LTIR, and fans are still talking about how Carey Price was worth 11 million in 2015...
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3 hours ago, Zowpeb said:
You'd rather they don't sign any depth players for the minors? Every team does this every year. Calling fringe players "rejects" is pointless.
To be fair, Morrow has a one way deal. We're assuming he's going to be waived. Holland has a two way deal that turns into a one way deal in the second year. I wonder if Bergevin is just trolling the fan base now? It's not enough to sign fifty dweebs a year to fill the 4th line/#6. Now he has to fill them with our rivals rejects. I hate this man!
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So Bergevin gets a Boston reject in the Morrow signing. Then a Toronto reject with Peter Holland. Logically...the next signing is Chris Neil?
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3 hours ago, Link67 said:
As far as i'm concerned, Schlemko replaced Beaulieu for less and brings a similar game. Alzner replaced Emelin for similar dollars and a similar game but more effective.
Now its either Markov, or whoever is going to replace him, I keep seeing the mindset that Alzner is coming to replace Markov but he is not, He is replacing Emelin. We lost Emelin for nothing and we gained Alzner for nothing. Safe to say I'd rather have Alzner playing where Emelin was supposed to slot in all day any day.
Its easy to turn this signing negative by twisting it around as Alzner replacles Markov but that is insanity, they are completely different players. I doubt very seriously that MB thinks Alzner will slot in everywhere Markov did, on the top Pair, on the PP, and not play any PK. Look at it that way and ask yourself if it is even possible other than blinding yourself to biased levels of hate for MB, that he could possibly think that. Alzner is coming in to be a physical stay at home presence who can log huge minutes on the PK and eat minutes against top players when paired with a puck mover. Does that sound ANYTHING like what Markov would be asked to do if he was still here? or does it sound like what Emelin would be asked to do if he was still here?
Come on guys..
He didn't replace Emelin because we didn't need another Emelin...unless we're talking about purely physical play, where Alzner can't help us.
This is what happens when a team doesn't develop players, they take on another team's turds to get one or two good years of a need that should be filled from within.
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3 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
The only thing you can say is that this is at least a decent cap hit for the player, under the circumstances. But that's looking at the trees not the forest...
MB: "Hey, I just got out from a terrible 4.5 million dollar cap hit. Oh, look!"
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1 minute ago, Stogey24 said:
Exactly. Bergevin is starting to scare me.
I think it's fair to say this is the inevitable part of a GMs tenure where he starts making deals that are just bad, ostensibly to hold onto his job. But at this point, is anybody surprised Bergevin still wants a team that wins games 2-1?
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3 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
That's a bit less than I thought he'd get. He'd fit in nicely with Petry as a second pairing guy. I'm not sure he's a great fit with Weber though.
Maybe Julien is thinking that pairing would be like Seidenberg-Chara? I suppose if they don't sign Markov, it's 1.25 million off the cap. I don't know where he fits now, especially for 6 million.
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Per Aaron Ward, who adds "unofficially," referencing the 12 PM start time to free agency.
Money believed to be 5/4.5.
This is exactly what this team doesn't need. Markov good as gone, imo.
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2 hours ago, Scott462 said:
I'd say not many.
Thanks for shattering my hopes and dreams Lovett!!!!!!
I was hoping for dlbalr to chime in, very interested in the answer. I know there have been a few players like Vermette and Ryan Smyth that got traded at the deadline and resigned with their old teams.
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I would add the NMC clauses are very unfair to Canadian teams, especially Winnipeg. Nobody wants to play in Winnipeg.