Lovett's Magnatones
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1 hour ago, Scott462 said:
Was just listening to 590 and they had John Scott on.
He said that is a two year old quote that was dug up for some reason. Said he actually likes PK and is really happy for his success. They went on to talk about big personalities in the room and how they can run people the wrong way but that he thinks the sport needs PK Subban.
We can stop with the John Scott hate now.
If that's the attitude over at ESPN, they might as well join the Trump pile-on happening in the rest of the media. Parseing a quote from two years ago to staple onto a preconceived narrative is Modern American Media 101.
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9 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Yow! Was that a recent interview? If so, he's spouting off without actually being up to speed - one sign of a guy who is no longer current. It's a good point about fuddy-duddies. This organization seems to have a huge bias in favour of the 'safe': it manifests in its apparent discomfort with super-talented young players, and in MB's loyalty to trusted buddies despite their failure to deliver. Point taken.
I think it was on Wednesday or Thursday.
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17 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Amen, brother. Guys like Sergachev and Beaulieu (assuming he isn't dealt) would certainly profit from his guidance.
I suppose. But then again, I listened to his interview on TSN690, and he was talking about PK not being a "complete player" and carping about the spin-o-ramas. I think this organization has enough fuddy-duddies. If I could pick any D coach to work on the Habs, I would pick Phil Housley.
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20 hours ago, BCHabnut said:
Why not. He was a hab. It is news. I liked Ott. He was the best of the bums MB brought in at the deadline.
"Of all the guys with no goals..."
I agree. I thought he would have stuck around for another year. He's only 34.
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2 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:
Until they build a team that can win without Carey being Carey, they will never win.
Everyone remembers Thomas becoming a superhero and winning a Conn Smythe. They forget April 21st when the Habs scored four goals and the Bruins had to win 5-4 in OT. They forget that Thomas allowed five goals in each loss to Tampa and one game where Boston had to win 6-5. They just remember the shutouts, and the domination against Philadelphia and Vancouver.
Point being, for Thomas to be great, Boston had to be great. They had to be able to score. They couldn't point the finger at their goalie when he allowed four or five in. They had to go ahead and tie the game or else the went home packing. Until Montreal builds a club that can dig Price out when the game gets tough, they will continue to lose like in 2015 to Tampa and 2017 to the Rangers. Series where everyone knows a few more goals as Montreal is in the next round.
$6 million, $8 million, $10 million, don't matter. Can they score in the postseason?
But can they build a team around Carey Price that can win after his new deal? The Habs can't count on their prospects to come in and fill roles for cheap money. They're already one number one, or two number two centers short. Markov is ageless, but suited for third pairing minutes. If Radulov doesn't sign, they need a first line center. Galchenyuk needs a new deal, or they're taking on a contract. Big money in players that aren't even good between Petry and Plekanec.
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8/US GDP
Book it!
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2 hours ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:
The Leafs never had Carey Price, who gives us a shot to win in any given year. The more we take that for granted, the more we're going to figure out how much we miss him once he retires and goaltending is no longer a strength of ours.
Maybe I'm listening to too much Tony Marinaro, but I'm kind of sick of the Carey Price Complex. Is the team worse without him? Hell yeah. Have they done much with him? No. He's played one game in the conference finals and that's as far as this team has gone with him. That has much more to do with the team and it's dizzying array of feckless general managers, but he's not a panacea for all hockey ailments. The run I envisioned him having, where he leads the Habs to the Cup like a Patrick Roy, Martin Brodeur, or Tim Thomas hasn't materialized and when you add in the injury history? Giving him a 8/USA GDP deal is going to be a massive mistake. Which is why I expect an announcement of a monster deal before July 4th.
I'm starting to think goaltending is more of an asset in the regular season. There are always a couple of goalies that play lights-out for a few series, and the .925 Price puts up like clockwork doesn't play out over a limited sample size. Teams can get by with very good goaltending in the playoffs instead of Vezina caliber play. Also, you can get a great goalie that turns into a tomato can for 3-5 games like Bobrovsky or Holtby.
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8 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
In no way do I think of this trade as a disaster on the scale of the Roy trade. But it is interesting to ask whether these RAH RAH fans would have been on the internet - had there been an internet - in 1995-96 defending Houle for that deal as well. 'We got back a great young goalie in Thibault! I love Ruscinsky's skill! Tremblay's old school coaching is what this team needs!' Etc. It's all too easy to imagine some of these Bergevin-boosters doing that...
I was a big Therrien supporter up until the middle of last year, but at some point you have to think critically. Some people give up their faculties to authority. These guys deserved the benefit of the doubt for the first three years, and they had some middling success, but this ship is headed in the wrong direction. They might be, as Marc Dumont suggested, headed for the plight of the early-2000s Leafs. Old team, not good enough, with few young players and prospects on the horizon. Then there's the report of Sylvain Lefebvre getting an extension...for what!
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1 hour ago, BCHabnut said:
This is awesome. Love this site more and more. We need habs30/31 back. I could go for some top Centre spam. That guy was a beauty
Hey, who's laughing now? Powerplay Plekanic (sic) is a roach.
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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Terrific post.
At some point, the defenders of this trade are going to have to face reality. Right now they are in total denial.
The same people that are in favor of the trade always support management no matter what.
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7 hours ago, BCHabnut said:
Lol at subban vs Weber.
Thank GOD MB didn't hire boucher. Most boring crap hockey ever. 2 scoring chances and two goals on seeing sure shots. Total luck they won tonight. Worst team in the playoffs and I will be very surprised if they don't regress next season.
This is what Guy Boucher does, he comes in, gets a ton out of his roster and inplements a hermetic system. And it works for about 1.5-2.5 seasons. His problem is that he never stops coaching. If you look at him on the bench, he's moving around non-stop, always making a face, and players eventually tune him out.
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It was a "win now" trade...for Nashville. I really hate this team. Hopefully the loser Panthers can get it together. Viola and Co are one of two or three franchises that make the Habs look good.
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4 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said:
Subban off to the finals. I bet it really sucks to be MB tonight.
And he thought he would spend the summer monitoring Weber's beer belly. Loser!
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12 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I dunno...the Hawks didn't build all those championships with fourth-line plumbers and slowfoots.
But those guys just aren't available.
LOCKHIMUP!
#bergevinforprison2020
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5 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:
Brent Seabrook is complete trash right now.
Seabrook for Petry?
Only if they throw in Marcus Krueger. Pricey fourth line guy, right up Bergevin's alley.
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4 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:
Brent Seabrook is complete trash right now.
Seabrook for Petry?
That sounds good. Marc Bergevin knew him pretty well when he was an AGM of Chicago. I wonder if he's still trying to model the team after the Hawks even though they got swept.
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We just need more Chicago guys.
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Nashville is one win away from competing for the Cup. I'm amazed they've done it without the leadership of Shea Weber. Next trade: Beaulieu and Sergachev for Marian Hossa and Artem Anisimov.
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2 hours ago, illWill said:
Pathetic is a great word to describe this post
Actually only two more wins gets him closer to the Cup, as Montreal only had 2 wins in the Conference final against the Rangers. If I remember correctly at the time of the trade Subban said something to the effect of " I'm going to a team that is closer to winning the Cup". He was right, Nashville was already a better team than Montreal, despite whatever narrative people want to put on the trade.
I want to see PK win the Cup, and for Gary Bettman to announce Bergevin is fired before he passes the Cup to Mike Fisher. This is what I dream about.
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9:24 into overtime, James Neal gets a great feed to end the game. Who passed the puck? PK Subban. He's still playing. The only thing Shea Weber is up to is growing his double chin. Pathetic!!!
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On 4/28/2017 at 10:02 PM, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Yow! Men were tougher back then, that's for sure. Fighting with fists was once commonplace both inside and outside the ice rink. Considering the damage we now know it can cause, it's probably for the best that (as Dylan sings) things have changed.
That's a hell of a song that gets no recognition within his larger body of work!
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3 hours ago, habscout said:
I'm interpreting his statement this way: "There's 30 teams in the league, and not one of them is going to trade me their #1 center. I've asked them all and they all said no. So you (the media) can quit asking me about that."
Yeah. That excuse is wearing thin. The center depth when he got here was DD, Plekanec, and Eller with Galchenyuk on the way. Now it's two third line centers and a bunch of fourths with Galchenyuk on the wing. And let's not forget that until he got Radulov, he had three years and a half years without a 1st line RW after he traded Erik Cole. It's a complete, resolute failure in building a forward corps.
What Bergevin needs to do is go back to being an AGM for a team like 2011-2015 Pittsburgh. He can shift around depth players until he gets a potent gris-gris of grinding character.
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10 hours ago, Commandant said:
I don't think Danault gets 40 points if he's not playing with Max/Radulov.
Remember DD was a 50-60 point guy at times when playing with Max at LW and some combo of Gallagher/Vanek/Cole on RW those years.
His production is obviously going to do down, further down the lineup.
They need to get somebody if they want to play the Galchenyuk is Not a Center game. They could have 60 points between their top 2 centers.
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Hey, how about this scenario? Very likely in my mind. What if they don't upgrade the center and Danault pulls a 2013-2014 Lars Eller? There's no guarantee Danault can get 40 points again. Then what's the center depth look like? Yikes.
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No, I meant GDP. I hear the Price deal is going to be in the trillions, and funded through a Fed debt/asset bubble.