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Not bad for a primarily AHL/CHL/PTO team.
Other than that, gotta see about trading for Hoffmann.
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Some danish idiot and goon from calgary. way to go gauthier
Hahahaha! What an idiotic comment.
I'm glad you don't have a gun... that comment is like shooting first and then finding out what's going on...
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I didn't see the game. I don't know if it was on TV or not but were McDonagh or Kristo 'contributors' to the elimination of the US squad?
During the Canada/US game, I thought that Kristo did pretty well for a 4th liner and McDonagh held the fort on his side of the ice pretty well. He did have the unfortunate broken stick thing that led to Tavares' second goal but, the goals that took place in scrums in front of the net took place on the other side of the net. McDonagh held his place keeping 'an eye' on the Canadian player on his side of the net.
Now, back to the original question... were McDonagh & Kristo ineffective in the game or was it more a matter of McCollum's goaltending weakness and the big shooters not coming through when needed or....
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Gorges has been upgraded, by sportsnet.ca, as a 4th defenseman.
For a long time, he was considered 6th or 7th.
It looks like his work ethic, qualities and aptitude have made him recognized by these non-partisan evaluators as a higher quality defenseman.
What a huge steal by Gainey! Gorges & Pacioretti for Craig Rivet.
I'm also glad for Gorges... he was so heavily maligned when he was claimed by the Canadiens - just a throw-in to be thrown out.
Here's the link: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/players/Josh_Gorges/
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Fantasy rankings are not based on ability. They are based on ability to win and usually a ranking is inflated
based upon the team's performance.
Patrick Lalime was a top 5 goalie when he was playing on an Ottawa powerhouse, but the second he ended up
on the Blues he plummeted in the rankings. Osgood and Legace have been premier Fantasy goalies because
they played on the Wings but when both of them left for other teams they became less than desirable.
Price is playing for the Eastern Conference champions and put up strong numbers last year, hence the lofty ranking.
Personally I believe he is easily a top 10 goaltender in the league. I would take him over everybody but Brodeur, Luongo,
Nabakov and Turco. He is only 21, so he may struggle at times. But I believe he will be better than guys like
Lundqvist, Giguere, Fleury, Kipprusoff and Backstrom by the end of the year.
Biased? Yes. But I believe in the kid as much as people believed in Crosby and Ovechkin.
I know that this has been said before but it may be argued, in years to come, which was really a better pick... Crosby or Price. Right now, it's still Crosby but, down the road, that may change.
We'll see.
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In an article by Chris Nicols in Sportsnet.ca, Carey Price is considered the 8th best goalie in the league. Ahead of him, in order, are Brodeur, Nabokov, Lundquist, Luongo, Giguère, Turco & Fleury. Just below him, in 9th & 10th, are Kiprusoff & Osgood.
Keep in mind that this list is a 'fantasy' list and takes into account the players in front of the goalies.
The description of Price's rating is: "Carey Price, Montreal: Playoff follies should fuel this leaner, rising star's first full season.
BACK UP THREAT LEVEL: Halak is impressive; Denis is a question mark. This is Carey's team."
Note that there's no mention of players in front of him having an impact like it mentions for Giguère, Fleury & Osgood.
I'm just taking this as an extrapolation to seeing these goaltenders as to their real comparative 'bestness' (ability, technique, etc.) Maybe we'll even have a discussion on Price's actual comparative rating.
Is Price really 8th best at this time? Is he actually better? Is he over-rated by Nichols?
To tell you the truth, I don't really know. The list seems reasonable but only the end of the year will give us a better idea.
By the way, here's the article's webpage:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nichols_top..._campaign=daily
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In an video interview on rds.ca, Guy Carbonneau says he's got his lines (trios) already made up and his line-up is about 95% complete.
The point of this topic is not a rehash of the lines (I'm guessing basically same line-ups as last year, I imagine except for slotting in Tanguay, Laraque and that 5% person(s)) but who is perceived as having a shot of making the team.
The big thing about this comment is that not likely many (if any) new kids'll make the team - at least on opening night.
I'm guessing that Bouillon, Dandenault, Brisebois and any others (Kostopoulos?) that many have been saying will be gone will, in fact, be back with the team.
Whatcha think?
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I bought a copy of the NHL 2009 YEARBOOK magazine yesterday and, as usual, they have their general interest articles and their previews for each team.
For our interest, there is a big article on the Canadiens and their 100th anniversary.
As part of the article, on page 43, there is a small box that talks about the number of cups that the Canadiens (24), Maple Leafs (13), Red Wings (11), Bruins (5) & Oilers (5) have won.
Of interest is the comments below these stats. One of the comments says, for the Canadiens: "Canadiens won one cup before NHL was formed". Added to that is this comment on the Maple Leafs: "Toronto Blueshirts also won a cup in 1914".
So, does this mean that the 24 cups include the one won before the NHL was formed or is it another one - making it 25 - the next one being 26. Is the 'Toronto Blueshirts' the same as the Maple Leafs (just a previous name) or just a nickname or is it a different team?
Now, I could likely answer my questions by further web-digging but I thought I'd leave it up to discussion.
Also, by the way, the same magazine predicts Montreal will finish 1st in its division and its conference.
On top of that, in a 'Fantasy' section, it rates Kovalev 20th in its fantasy value list. Price is rated 13th on the goaltenders list. They're the only Canadiens player on the list. Koivu & Tanguay are add-ons at the end but as 'Falling' (Bergeron, Arnott, Frolov & Cammalleri are seen as 'Rising').
So, there you go... three things to bang about, if you wish.
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I don't know if I can do this but here goes...
If I can then this thread will stay, if not, then I'll find out soon enough...
Please read the box below and, if you're interested, you can go to the link to sign up...
Here's the text of the message from NHL Fan Faceoff Panel (support@nhlfanfaceoff.com) to which I've belonged for over a year now...
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YEEEHAAA!!!
The habs killer is now in the western conference!!!
Umberger had the series of his life vs Montreal...
look at what he did vs Washington - nothing, look at what he did vs Pittsburg - nothing
Philadelphia robbed Columbus...
gosh, I despise Bobby Clarke...
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I put this topic in another hockey yack site and I thought maybe it might be of interest to you too...
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I read TSN's TOP 60 PROSPECTS list (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=11437&a...=topRelated_nhl) and I noticed that Kyle Beach is rated 10th. Interestingly, Terry Ryan, by the way, was rated 11th in his draft year.
The two players are quite similar. Aggressive power forwards, big, strong, score goals, drop the gloves, etc.
The differences would seem to be that Beach has a bit of an 'edge' in the skating department (maybe not that much... I don't know) but, in his favour, Ryan came into the draft ahead, health-wise. He had no substantial injury (concussions) record.
Here's a comparison of their draft year numbers.
Kyle Beach
YEAR-GP--G--A-PTS-PIM
07-08-60-27-30-60--222
Terry Ryan
YEAR-GP--G--A-PTS-PIM
94-95-70-50-60-110-207
I know that each person is different but there's an awful lot of similarities between these two.Just based upon that and knowing what happened to Ryan, would Beach be a good early 1st round draft risk? Would it be better to wait until in the last third of the 1st round or as a second pick by some team that has two picks in the 1st round?
Personally, I'd be a bit hesitant to choose him unless I had two picks in the 1st round.
Ideas?
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Just as an add-on to this topic, I'm surprised to see, on the TSN top 60 list, that Justin Jokinen is absent. He doesn't even make the 'Honourable Mentions' list. Interesting...Aside from all of that, as a indication of my interests, Montreal, when I watch the draft on RDS (or TSN) Friday night, I'd like to see Montreal go for Deschamps, Jokinen or Nemisz. Not necessarily in that order of preference though I'd like to see an impact centre, if possible.
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You know... Umberger isn't as good as he seems to be during this series against us.
He just scored his 8th goal but 7 of these have been during this series... in the seven games against Washington, he only had one. This is an accurate reflection of his regular series where he only scored 13 in 74 games.
I hope he enjoys what he's been experiencing because it's very much out of the ordinary.
By the way, on tsn.ca, there's an article on Umberger where the headline is that he's looking forward to the series against the Penguins... he may very well get there but he ain't there yet. If the Flyers get by our team, he'll see that things will not be as 'fun' as it may have been in the regular season.
In any event, he ain't there yet and he may never get there either...
we'll see...
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What a post!!!...not bad for a washed up flat footed old timer.[/b]
We could still use a guy like you around here!
If ever we had a hall of fame on this sight, you'd be at the top of my voting list...
Good to see you back.
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So, there hasn't been many comments denigrating Gorges, but you decided to seize the opportunity to lecture on that topic anyway.
Even the 2 quotes you did find aren't particularly offensive - more statements of opinion. You know, the purpose of a message board?
I don't disagree that sometimes we're too negative, but not in this case. Anyway, negativity just balances off those who are too positive. Like that SAKS-AVE guy, who actually thought we could finish in first! How embarrassing. Wait, what....?
You bet I 'seized the opportunity'.
It wasn't to lecture but to remind us that we need to be balanced and to consider refraining from bad mouthing, disparaging or knocking down someone as quickly as is sometimes done.
Putting down someone isn't a constructive negativity. For example, for one of your friends or parents to call you intelligent in a 'too positive' sense and for another friend or the other parent to call you an idiot in a 'too negative' sense doesn't add up to a balance.
You will still feel attacked and likely be hurt by that harsh comment.
Maybe I'm wrong in that 'you' wouldn't be affected by that scenario but, if you are human, like the rest of us, you will likely be impacted by the second comment.
Also, to castigate someone from the safety of anonymity or the assurance that he/she won't read or hear about it (ie: Gorges doesn't read what we write anyway) doesn't justify the act.
If all of this sounds like a lecture to you, I'm not going to apologize. We should always consider what we say or write and how these words affect others to whom they are directed and, believe it or not, how they affect those who hear or read them and, even more importantly, how they affect the ones who speak or write them.
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Ive been a fan ever since I saw this kid play.. not that Im saying: "me so smart".. I just love him out there. Another good player Gainey added to this organisation.
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for as long as I've 'known' you, m30, you've usually endeavoured to keep a 'let's see how this develops' perspective instead of jumping right in and dimissing the potential worth of a player or an organizational move.
imho, I praise and thank you for that point-of-view and contribution...
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Gainey took the time to point out, in an interview yesterday, that Josh Gorges was a perfect example of why the team was so successful this year. Gorges's growth over the season (his ability to step in and take on the challenges) was crucial to the team's progress. I believe that Gainey sees in Gorges both an example of what generally happened but, from Gorges's perspective, that he WAS an example for his fellow players. Good for him... I'm glad.
Now, a reminder of some of what some of us are subjected to on a more or less consistent basis...
Here's just a few quotes from our habsworld contributors about Gorges...
"Gorges will be forgotten in a few years. Most likely a career minor leaguer."
"I will be happy if this kid can make an outlet pass."
I'm glad to see that Gainey had a better vision of the possibilities of this kid than many of us did.
I must add, though, that, while searching the posts about the trade, I didn't find too much to denigrate him like the posts above. I didn't search any other topics looking for comments about him during his adaptation period. Having been exposed to similar descriptives for a number of other players who were struggling, at one time or another, I expect that I will have found variations of things like 'bucket of pucks', 'pile of sticks', 'not worth shit', 'useless piece of crap', etc... all very uplifting, constructive comments.
I can only hope that those of us who make such comments never have to face them in their own real world. I hope that they will never be rejected, demeaned or, essentially, discarded like they so easily and quite so readily do to the persons on whom they are commenting. All I can say is 'treat others the way you'd like to be treated'. If you want to be categorized as 'not worth shit' or 'useless piece of crap' then feel free to do so to others too.
For my part, all I can say is 'Thank you Mr. Gainey for your mistakes and for your successes. At the very least, those of us who are realistic can see that you know a lot more about what a GM does than those who claim greater wisdom from their own comfortable, safe and free-of-responsibility-of-action universe.'
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You will find all you need to know about Habs prospects over here
true enough but this saves running around and gives a specific topic about which we can discuss...
and you didn't discuss... you just dissed...
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The info is: overall position - player's name - Games Played / Goals / Assists / Penalty Minutes
In the WHL,
7 - Ben Maxwell----- 4 / 4 / 2 / 6 / 6
80 - Ryan White----- 4 / 1 / 2 / 3 / 0
In the OHL
7 -- P.K. Subban----- 5 / 3 / 5 / 8 / 4
11 - Yannick Weber--4 / 4 / 2 / 6 / 6
In the QMJHL
(I couldn't find our prospect, Olivier Fortier, in their list).
Not bad stuff for three of the four that I could find... very encouraging.
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The Canadiens won this game solely on the basis of superior talent.
They were outplayed pretty well all game by the Bruins but Boston doesn't have the talent level of the Canadiens.
How will our boys do against more talented and equally hard-working teams (Pittsburg, New York, Ottawa, etc...)?
We'll see....
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I don't care that we're in 1st place overall...
The great thing about last night's victory is that our team beat New Jersey for the second time in a row - once on their ice and once on ours...
So very neat! It may be a bump on the New Jersey's road with us but I've enjoyed the bump to the fullest... like being in the back of the school bus... a fine bounce!
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I hope he turns out to be better than Lucic.
What's wrong with Lucic? He's not bad... he does what he's good at...
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I found a site where all NHL teams were graded on their Deadline Day trades. It goes from Dallas, Atlanta & Washington with A's to Boston & Edmonton with F's.
Interestingly, Ross McKeon (Yahoo Sports) gives Montreal an expected C- but, surprisingly, he gives Pittsburg a D+.
The Montreal rating is a reasonable one (missing out on the big players - Hossa, etc... & moving Huet for a 2nd round pick).
The Pittsburg rating is due to the loss of young & popular players and the uncertainty of the working chemistry of the two new players that arrive (Hossa & Gill). The loss of all those draft picks was also a consideration... interesting...
In any case, here's the page:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=rm-t...o&type=lgns
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If you like to read about the same thing from different perspectives...
Enjoy...
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agreed...
don't need that big salary just like we didn't need brière's big salary & contributions...
let's grow our own...
if there's going to be a trade, let it be some of our established guys (huet, ryder, etc...) for some young high-level prospects...
Sergachev and Lehkonen
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Does anyone know where these kids are staying when not playing with the team?
In the past, new players would stay at a hotel until they knew if they would stick with the team. Yet, Brendan Gallagher got to stay Josh Gorges Alex Galchenyuk stayed with his mother and sister. A similar situation may have been the place for other new young players but I don't know. As to Sergachev and Lehkonen, I hope they are being put into family like situations.
There's too much fun waiting for them after the games and practices which has, in the past, not been beneficial to young players.