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Leafs in the play-off race! I'm loving it!
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Originally posted by windacup
How can you say you don't want the league MVP? In the prime of his career, plus he's a local kid.
You can't go for every good player in the league. And he's not my league MVP. It's not all goals, you know. He costs too much, he's greedy, too small, he'd completely mess up our lines and who do you suggest we trade for him?
His style fits well with our team, but -
1. We can't afford him. This means we'd have to trade a lot to get him (to dump salary) and our team will be messed up. (But Tampa won't be able to afford the players we'd trade so getting him is impossible, anyway.) The salary he's asking for is way too much for a guy with one good year. He's just as proven as Mike Ribeiro and no sane GM would offer Ribs half Marty's salary.
2. We're looking for size and strength which is the opposite of St. Louis.
3. He's selfish and arrogant and Gainey knows better than to sign players like that. He won't accept under 5mln (and he's pushing for 6mln) after only 1 80pt season or something.
So...
We don't need him
We can't have him
We don't want him for his on-ice qualities
We don't want him for his off-ice qualities
[Edited on 2005/8/19 by Bulis_the_Habbie]
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I never really noticed anything wrong about him but - whoever said it - Bob McKenzie is my favourite TSN analyst. But they really favour Toronto and even Ottawa over Montreal.
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The signing of Vinny at such a price screwed over Tampa. Their days at the top of the NHL will be destroyed by next season at latest. With St. Louis pushing his luck with 5.75M or so and the duo asking for more each contract (they're young - they'll only get better) and don't forget Brad Richards who can milk more than 3.4M bucks.
Tampa already had to let go of Andreychuk who played a big part in Tampa's Cup winning and they had to get rid of Khabibulin who played a HUGE part in their win. Sean Burke is old and just can't do it like he used to. Tampa is gonna fall each year until they land themselves back where they started - dead last.
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No way we'll get him. And I don't even want him. Not now anyway. If Gainey wanted a player like St. Louis he would/should have went for him at the beginning of the UFA period. Now we just have too many players, too high a payroll and we'd have to push all our players back a line.
No thanks. Maybe next year.
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I like some Dropkick Murphys but I don't really care much about Flogging Molly.
I like more AFI, Billy Talent, Smile Empty Soul, Bright Eyes, The Decemberists, Coldplay, Deathcab, The Distillers, The Early November, etc, etc, etc...
Ya and then a bunch of classic rock.
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A little joke I heard on gohabs.com...
A Kindergarten teacher tells her class she's a BIG Leafs fan.
She's really excited about it and asks the kids if they're Leafs fans too.
Everyone wants to impress the teacher and says they're Leafs fans too, except ONE kid, ...named Wayne
the teacher looks at Wayne and says, "Wayne, you're not a Leafs fan?"
He says, "Nope, I'm a Habs fan!" She says, "Well why are you a Habs fan and not a Leafs fan?"
Wayne says, "Well, my mom is a Habs fan, and my dad is a Habs fan, so I'm a Habs fan."
The teacher's not real happy. She's a little hot under the collar. She says, "Well, if your moms an idiot, and your dads a moron, then what would you be?!"
Wayne says, "Then I'd be a Leafs fan!"
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GINO ODJICK!
Who's next? Mike Ricci!?
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Originally posted by dahabs111
Thanx for the link....
glad to hear he will be back!
I musta misread another thread
No, sorry, Dahabs. That was me. I thought he lost his job in one of his "controversies" or something. I remember hearing bout him in the Gazette during the lockout.
Didn't he get in trouble once for wearing a US tie at the CAN-US game, too?
And then all the European and French-Canadian comments. I'm surprised he still has his job.
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3.8M for Lang isn't much. He was the league's leading scorer last year or atleast until he was traded to the Red Wings at the trade deadline.
Madden makes more money than Lang, Brad Richards, Koivu, Keith Primeau, Mike Rathje, Derian Hatcher, Nabokov, Luongo, Palffy, Malakhov, Mogilny and many other great players.
Other very overrated players are:
Keith Tkachuk: $7.6M
Bryan McCabe: $3.458M
Mats Sundin: $6.84M
Todd Bertuzzi: $5,269,333
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But most of the overpaid players are former superstars who signed multi-year deals so after they start going downhill they're still using their superstar contract. The rest are Leafs:)
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Is it just me or does $3,861,561 make him the most overpaid player in the league?
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(for shotcat1:) Stumpel has a $3.5M contract....
I really think Cujo is overrated. The leafs harped on about him but it was the meda that made him out to be better than he actually was. In his prime, he still wouldn't guarantee a spot in today's top 10 goalies in the league.
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Originally posted by HiggsfanOriginally posted by Bulis_the_Habbie
OK.
Chad Kilger - Clarke Wilm - Nathan Perrott
Nik Antropov - Matthew Stajan - Tie Domi
Darcy Tucker - Shayne Corson - Alexander Ponikarovsky
Marek Menelovsky - Luca Cereda - Petr Tenkrat
Karel Pilar - Carlo Colacaiovo
Wade Belak - Drake Berehowsky
Aki Berg - Alexander Khavanov
Corey Hirsch
Mikael Tellqvist
:D:DHow could you forget about Alexander Steen?
Simply the best Swedish forward since Peter Forsberg. :eyes:
Oops! My bad.
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That trade would never have happened anyway. It's only a rumour. And Florida gets badly ripped.
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OK.
Chad Kilger - Clarke Wilm - Nathan Perrott
Nik Antropov - Matthew Stajan - Tie Domi
Darcy Tucker - Shayne Corson - Alexander Ponikarovsky
Marek Menelovsky - Luca Cereda - Petr Tenkrat
Karel Pilar - Carlo Colacaiovo
Wade Belak - Drake Berehowsky
Aki Berg - Alexander Khavanov
Corey Hirsch
Mikael Tellqvist
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Two goalies will make 21 but that's not counting Plekanec, Higgins, Perezhogin or any of the prospects besides Marcel Hossa.
And about the salary: Mark Streit isn't listed on thefourthperiod.. that's another million or so, I guess.
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Originally posted by TruthMonger
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Don't panic. The 24.6 million includes Bulis, Ribs, and Koivu.
Phew!!
Then we have no reason to hit 37M! Theo/Ryder/Markov=8M approx.
We should end up about 35M which is good. Gives us some breathing room, you know.
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Luckily, I have RDS to watch my games (but in French.) Then there's TSN which will only show Toronto games most likely and then possibly Sportcentre and then Hockey Night in Canada WITHOUT DON CHERRY!:/)
:D;)
I've always loved laughing at that guy; at his opinions and at his suits (ties). -
No way would Florid do that!!
Lose an amazing goalia for an average goalie. A prospect (1st - or was that 2nd - overall choice) D for a veteran D,
and than a prospect with huge potential (Huselius) and a draft pick for Matt Cooke, Jarko Ruutu and a draft pick.
All ratings are on 10. A young players rating will eventually move to the second number.
Luongo-9--10
Bouwmeester-7--9
Huselius-6--8
draft pick
Cloutier-7
Jovanovski-8
Cooke-7
Ruutu-7
draft pick
I know if you rate the trade this way you get 29-27 and it looks like the Canucks lose but that's a very inaccurate way of doing it. There's no goalie in the league that fits better in Florida than Luongo. No other goalie can stop 40 shots regularly like that.
They also need the youth on their team. They can't trade a way their 2 top prospects for players about as good as they are RIGHT NOW.
It's interesting but I suggest Florida goes for a smaller trade just for Matt Cooke; I'd like to see him in FLA.
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I wonder how hard the Yankees will push to stop that.
Anyway, I really like their team. (Panthers)
I've said for a few years that Atlanta would make the play-offs this seasonand it could be true:
Dany Heatley
Ilya Kovalchuk
Patrik Stefan
Shane Hnidy
Marc Savard
Vyacheslav Kozlov
Bobby Holik
Niclas Havelid
Jaroslav Modry
Pasi Nurmenen
Kai Lehtonen
Jani Hurme
That's amazing goaltending. Two of the best prospects in the league. Some good veterans (Savard), good D, and big size: 3 players under 6"0 and only 1 player under 200 pounds!
And then they have Bobby Holik who's just pure skill.
:que::hlogo::ghg::hlogo::can:
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The other signings include Bulis(1M), Ribeiro(1.178M) and Koivu(3.42M). That totals at 5.618M. A couple of minor signingswill bring about a million. Add it to your 25.8M number and we get 31.4M. Then we have Theodore asking for maybe 5 million. Ryder will get a little more than a million and you forgot Markov who deserves about $2M. That brings us over the cap but between my guesses at salaries and possible mistakes at fourthperiod.com I'd say we messed up our math. Let's hope we're at $37M.:?-
:que::hlogo::ghg::hlogo::can:
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I think the signing of Josef Stumpel was a great one for Florida. They've already signed Gary Roberts and Joe Nieuwendyke. They need veterans like them to help develop their youth: Huselius, Hagman, Bouwmeester ...
Then they have Captain Olli Jokinen.
They also signed Martin Gélinas and we all saw what he could in the play-offs. Other players they recently acquired are Hill, Gratton, Cairns, McLennan, Karpovtsev and Kwiatkowsky, all adding size and depth to their team.
Stumpel can play either Center or as a winger which gives the Cats some flexibility. He would most likely be switched to RW because the Cats have 3 strong C, 4 strong LW but no great right-wingers.
And don't forget who's backing them up in net. They will, however, have a problem with their D but since when has that stopped Luongo from making 40+ saves a night.
Also, they won't be afraid to dish out the pain. Their line-up includes only 4 players under 6"0 and 2 under 200 pounds.
This is the year that Florida returns to the play-offs. By the way, other greatly improving teams that were horrible prior to this season are Pittsburgh, ATLANTA:/) and Chicago.
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I'd like to see what Réjean Houle would do to this team...
:D:DGive him 1 season and he'll turn this into last year's Pens...
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No, but the Habs usually dominate in the pre-season games.
Yeah, the unproven guys are good. Bégin was key last year. Our second and fourth lines are trying to prove themselves and I suspect most of them will.
As for the trade, the only habs I won't be mad to lose is Rivet.
Martin St-Louis
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St. Louis is better than Ribeiro. I'm just saying that St. Louis doesn't have much experience and isn't completely proven as a Super Star.
He apparently has problems in the dressing room with some other players. And how can you not call him greedy? Anybody who says they won't accept under 5M dollars a year is greedy. Period. Especially since he doesn't deserve that money to begin with.
A guy like Koivu would have accepted the league minimum if he had to. He knows he's rich and he doesn't need the money. St. Louis just wants to get richer and richer.
And just because he won the Hart Trophy doesn't mean he's the best player in the league. Or close to it.
And it'll mess up the lines because our first two lines are scoring and the next two are checking, grit and defensive lines. Someone like Dagenais, Ryder or Ribeiro just wouldn't fit on a checking line. They'd go straight to the bench, whoever he replaced. Things like that. Signing a guy when you don't have room gets things messy.
[Edited on 2005/8/19 by Bulis_the_Habbie]