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  1. Personally I am not taking it as the gospel truth he is a bad coach. But I am taking it as the gospel truth he was the wrong coach.

    Exactly! I'll add that I don't even like the idea of the inmates running the asylum. It's just the nature of the beast. Let's see if Martin get's another head coaching gig. I have my doubts.
  2. Commandant, as always, you have a gift for debating. Great stuff. But at some point you'll have to admit there's more to it than stats. I never "called" for Jacques to be fired, and I wasn't thrilled with the way it was done. But as more info comes out, it's clear it had to be done. You suggested Spacek might be disgruntled. Possibly. But I didn't get that from the interview. If anything, I feel as if he's speaking for many players on the current team.

  3. He's disgruntled with the people he spoke out about.

    A coach who put him on the wrong side nearly his entire time here.

    A GM who traded him (and wouldnt tell him where)... that was wrong by Goat.

    Still even if not disgruntled the fact he doesn't agree with the coach's strategy is not conclusive proof that the strategy devised by the coach was wrong.

    You'll never find conclusive proof, it's impossible. That was never the point. What he said is further proof that coaching is not only about x's and o's. At some point, Martin became the wrong coach for this team. Happens all the time.
  4. On hockeyInsideout.com, Spacek gives a candid interview, basically supporting what many of us believe about Jacques Martin. I can't seem to include a link with this IPad. Wrong coach, wrong GM for this team going forward. His 2 or 3 supporters on this website won't like it, but I do find it telling. Considering he enjoyed his time here, and still lives in the city. Further to the article, Chris Nilan revealed the team removed cookies and chocolate bars from team flights. Pathetic.

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  5. I prefer Plek to Stastny, due to both cap and defensive play.

    What I really want is a coach to handle Plekanec like the player he is.

    Absolutely! And keep him with steady line mates. They put Desharnais in a position to succeed, and he did. And Plek? How many different combinations?
  6. I guess I'm a glutton for punishment; but other than Giroulx, who exactly are the 'star' Quebecers that Timmis has been in a position to draft, but passed over in favour of inferior players? Just asking. Because Giroulx is the only one I hear about - albeit ad nauseum.

    I dunno. I guess it's just media driven. Just like the need for a French speaking coach. Meanwhile, we're getting a French speaking coach. And we're getting closer attention paid to the Q.
  7. When you consider that in the last 9 years (since Timmins was hired) only 1 NHL team has drafted more Q players than us, I don't think we've been neglecting the Q at all. I agree with MOLG, this is good PR for Bergevin, but it doesn't actually mean anything other than appeasing a couple chest thumpers in the media. Its not like we've been ignoring the Q.

    That's a great stat. I suppose it's the star players that the team has by passed for scrubs that never made it, that get's people upset.
  8. How bout agree to disagree on several items sir, different point of views it seems, which is fine.

    Have a good weekend.

    DON...I actually find you a breath of fresh air, and a really positive poster. When it comes down to it, we agree. I'm just not going to say the organization wants to win any less. Especially when a man like Scotty Bowman says the coach should speak French. At this point, I'll qualify my response. I'm an anglo/bilingual Montrealer. I'm not pushing any agenda.
  9. The fans dictate who you take based on where they were born.

    For every Giroux and Gagne (Gagne was 14 years ago now BTW) there is a decision to take Ryan McDonagh over Angelo Esposito, Max Pacioretty over David Perron, and PK Subban over Antoine Lafleur.

    Ya, we all know how old Gagne is. It's just a mistake on draft day that stings. I'm not saying it's right. It's just interesting that the organization may actually take the step of looking more closely at the Q.
  10. Your home grown idea is simply common sense, i am a fan and hope for more Canadians to be on team, but wouldnt skip a better player/coach to achieve that, makes zero sense unless winning is not #1 priority (which it seems is the case for Molson and my main point of earlier post).

    Harold Ballard was of a similar opinion and Don Cherry is as well, but you have to admit that their attitudes are just a bit passe dont you think?

    As for the majority of Habs fans, we want a winning team.

    You do realize the draft is a crap shoot? And hindsight makes it so easy to criticize that it is inane.

    You arnt really quoting Pierre McQuire are you? You threw that in there as a joke eh?

    You asked why, even though it's common sense. And we all know it's a crap shoot. As for a Pierre McGuire comment, he was a finalist for the job of our favorite team. It's just a prevailing attitude in this city. Why not look more closely at the local talent pool.
  11. It is just a bit annoying, and an oversimplified anology would be; that every year the Habs 1st round pick must be from Quebec, when we all know there are better choices (most years).

    same as Bergevin promoting more scouts in the Q? why; there are but a couple in the first few rounds of past few drafts?

    Wouldnt it be more prudent to say, we are going to beef up our scandinavian scouting dept, becasue past few years there are dozens of top notch prospects?

    Anyways, would Guy Charron be a good canditate for coach, he played with habs in 70s, was assistant coach with Habs in 2003-04 and has been coaching for 20 years now? I would think he would be better choice than Roy, if only that he has the experiance. But i know nothing of personality/coaching abilities?

    Why more Q scouts? Because the teams fans would prefer more home grown players, like they'd prefer a home grown coach. They've dropped the ball a few times in the last decade. Simon Gagne and Claude Giroux come to mind. It's really not hard to understand. Even Pierre McGuire said a better job should be done in our province.
  12. Sad fact is that politics is still the #1 factor for hires and team success comes second, seems a very outdated and backward way of doing business.

    Not another sports franchise like it anywhere i dont think?

    Gerard Gallant could be best available, but likely just not french enough, which is just too bad.

    So bring on Roy and let the gong show start. Would be entertaining for sure, successful might be another matter.

    I dunno, weren't the coaches in last years finals both francophone? They both already coached our team. Personally I'd prefer the best possible candidate, but I refuse to let it bother me. I maintain at this level, being opportunistic, at the right place at the right time, counts for just as much. If we eliminate the Bruins last season, Claude Julien is probably fired.
  13. Why do you doubt he will be sent to the minors? It makes the most sense. As far as I can tell, the only downside is we will have to keep paying him for a few years, which shouldn't be a problem for a wealthy organization like the Habs.

    For sure, I agree. We're a wealthy organization. But the Molson's are not Mark Cuban, George Steinbrenner types. Gomez has 10 million guaranteed, plus Jacques Martin is still owed money. Then, in theory, the team will use some or all of the 7.3 million in cap space they gain in sending Gomez down. That is alot of money. That's my point. Let's see how much they're willing to spend.
  14. The suggestions for Gomez are getting silly. He's not going to give up a single dollar. Which means he'll play hockey. Probably for us. Maybe in Hamilton, but even that I doubt. If we find someone to take his contract via a trade, we might have to sweeten the pot, and include a prospect or pick. Buying him out? I'll believe that when I actually see it.

  15. Keeping those two in the press box for one game was fine. The second was overkill. And they get shutout. If I'm a player on that team, I'm furious with the coach and GM. In a round about way, Barry Trotz penalized the rest of the team by not icing the best possible line up. Ok coach, you proved your point, now let's go golfing.

  16. To me, Marc Crawford is a prime example of recycling. I want nothing to do with him. On the other hand, hiring another rookie doesn't seem logical either. But wow, Patrick Roy would be fantastic entertainment. And for some reason, I respect the fact that he's riding a bus, in QC winters, actually coaching. As opposed to being an "analyst", like all those other geniuses.

  17. Considering McGuire was on "our" short list for the job, seems lame to trash him now. Bergevin sure looks the part, in the way that Brian Burke has Toronto written all over him. He doesn't have much experience, but if he handles the Gomez situation well, and locks up Carey Price long term to a nice number, I'll be delighted. Trade Kaberle and he's GM of the year, I'm not saying that to stoke the fires, as the Kaberle debate has been great on here.

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