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    Subban traded to Nashville

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    Personally I think this thread has divulged into a battle of egos and strictly not wanting to be proven wrong from a certain position to look at things objectively from both sides of the argument. I realized this earlier and chose to leave it alone.

    I have always kept true to the fact that I think both players are elite D men that have completely different styles and have been used in completely different ways by their teams to relying strictly on numbers. I'm not a fan of trusting people's opinions when they deal in absolutes and say things like "Subban is just better than Weber". I just can't take it seriously.

    Subban traded to Nashville

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    I'm sure Nate will get the chance to play next to Weber. If you look at how Josi developed into the kind of player he is while playing with Weber their certainly leaves room to be optimistic. I'm not comparing Beaulieu to Josi but I think Nate has a lot of potential

    Subban traded to Nashville

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    In regards to playoff performances I agree that the Boston series Subban was all gold but the very next series against New York I remember him not being so hot, mind you this might be because he left it all against the Bruins. I am not denying that he certainly has his moments in the playoffs.

    The point is that I never said that PK does not play with the system Carey did. And playoffs are a funny time it takes random players stepping up at different times and an entire team to put it together to win the cup like Pittsburgh did last year.

    Maybe Weber plays the best hockey of his career infront of Price instead of Rinne who unfortunately isn't close to Price in a lot of ways. Ways I think PK will miss over in Nashville not having that elite puck handling goalie to pass him the puck and make that key save when he gaffs off a play where he was trying to do too much.

    Subban traded to Nashville

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    Biggest thing about Price's comments was about the coaching system. The moment the coach changes he'll have a different opinion on how things are supposed to work. That's called buying into the system.

    The thing is it looks like Price and the rest of the team actually did buy into the system and want to win with it and we're having success with it per past years and the beginning of last year. It really is too bad Subban couldn't get on board with it. I really don't think it has anything to do with being a "robot" or talk like that.

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    2016 World Cup thread

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    Not weird at all. The kid bagged 30 last year. He's what, 22? A breakout is well within the sphere of possibility.

    As for the WC itself, so far I cannot find it within me to give the slightest sh*t. Maybe this will change when the puck drops, or maybe not...

    Indeed!

    Also you look at how hard he is training and just his general mentality to start this year really shows a drive to win. Looking forward to watch this kid play.

    Since it's being held here in Toronto I'm looking forward to seeing all this amazing talent. The N/A team is stacked with young talent should be fun to watch

    Any anxiety about Price?

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    Honestly I think a lot will depend on if Montoya can carry the torch when Price subs out. Personally I think he will.

    As for anxiety of course I think in the backs of all of our minds we are a little worried that the injuries can creep back in but overall I think Price is becoming a lot smarter and wiser in regards to how to keep his body well maintained and might be the reason he took all of last year off even when he could of come back to play at the end of last year. He is very intelligent and the fact that no surgery was needed I think is a good thing.

    Will he be a bit rusty to start off? Sure but that's what the World Cup is for lol.

    2016 World Cup thread

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    Either way, Bouwmeester is clearly better than Subban too so I don't see what the huff is.

    After reading into it a bit I came to realize that TC wants right shot on their right side and lefts on their side. Also Bouwmeester plays with Pietrangelo and has good chemistry with him.

    2016 World Cup thread

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    I haven't crunched the numbers on Karlsson, but my impression is that PK is actually a much more fully-rounded player. The funny thing is, you seldom hear Karlsson receive the kinds of criticisms that have routinely been lobbed at Subban EVEN THOUGH Subban seems to be a more complete player. Perhaps that's because Subban's coaches in Montreal actively contributed to the narrative that he had 'problem' elements to his game, while Ottawa has been happy to give Karlsson lots of rope. Or perhaps it's because PK's flashy personality triggers visceral resentment from the defenders of the NHL Robot Player Culture, which guys like Babcock are in the front line of insisting on, while Karlsson plays by their totalitarian personality rule-book. One thing's for sure, though, it *certainly* could not be a double standard generated by a subliminal racism that makes people react very differently when a black guy does it compared to when a Euro-Caucasian does it. That's for sure.

    I totally agree that Subban is the more well rounded D man with Subban being a lot better in his own end and Karlsson being a bit better offensively. There is no denying that they are both amazing players in their own right but personally I would pick PK for my guy but maybe that's because I'm a bit biased towards him.

    Now is regards to the last bit you wrote I can't say either way, I think the whole management hated PK and was more harder on him is being blown out of proportions a little bit, not saying it's unjustified though. From what I have heard him and Babcock might of butted heads a couple times and in PK's case I think he had butted heads with every single one of his coaches if I'm not correct. Which leads me to believe that maybe PK is a bit hard to coach and that the truth to all this lies somewhere in the middle of the two narratives running here.

    Suffice to say I have always liked watching PK play but there certainly was some times where I just had to shake my head at some of the plays he would make but that's beside the point. He is a great hockey player and I look forward to watching him play in Nashville.

    2016 World Cup thread

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    Well in Erik Karlsons case, I heard he has more goals against when on the ice than any other defender in the league by a pretty wide margin.

    He is amazing offensively probably the best in the game but his D from what is read and seen of him is pretty bad. That might of been a reason they would of left him off had he been Canadian.

    Habs sign Alex Radulov

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    Same here. I think Carr on the other side of that trio could really make for an intriguing third line as he too has that nose for the net plus a shooters mentality which would go well with Desharnais who doesn't like to shoot often.

    I agree with you guys.

    Shaw is a solid fit on the third line and gives us scoring depth. Smart play is spread your scoring over multiple lines.

    Question is who gets the 2nd LW spot next to either plek or gally

    Subban traded to Nashville

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    I don't think the contract was a primary factor in either side doing what they did. If it was, one would think it would have been more on Poile's mind than Bergevin. Here we are theorizing that Bergevin was unhappy with being 'forced' to pay up the nose for Subban. Meanwhile Poile literally had to match Philadelphia's offer sheet on Weber so if anyone's hands were really tied in terms of dishing out for a contract, I'd tend to lean more towards Nashville.

    Another GM had to show Polie how much Weber was worth.

    The time is now for Galchenyuk to be Montreal's #1 centre

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    I can see DD being used more in an exploit role but on which line can be subjective. I doubt he will play much top 6 minutes though. Use him on the third line with Shaw and maybe Andrighetto?

    I am liking the addition of Radulov though, from what I hear he plays a decent two way game similar to Pleks but obviously has a lot more offensive talent. If he can handle some of the playmaking that lets Pleks open up his shot more and then throw Carr or Lehkonen into the mix that's still a good scoring line with solid two way play that can shoulder playing the hard minutes against the oppositions top line.

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