Metallica
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Anyone see our so called GM any where?? This team has been bad since opening day of the NHL. He hasn't even made a single trade to try and improve this team.
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2 minutes ago, Link67 said:
Price must be asking himself if this shit is really going to happen again tonight right about now.
He is probably asking himself why he signed long term here.
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Man we all knew goals would be hard to come by this year but this is pathetic. Plekenec too me just seems like he doesn't care.
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Would you give Roy total control over the team???
Because that's what he wants. Thats why he walked away from the avs.
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25 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:
I don’t know about the math you guys are doing, but the Habs are still in it. It won’t be until about the 60th game where death will truly be able to be pronounced. I was pessimistic heading into the season, and it doesn’t mean people are wrong but we’re 38 games into the season and 10 points out of the playoffs. People use numbers like 96 but maybe this year, a historically low number will get in. Right, then there’s the issue that we won’t get past round one anyway. I guess negatively is the only way to look at it...
To make the playoffs you will need on average 96pts maybe even 100pts.
44 games left, habs have 36pts. Lets say to be safe 100pts to make the playoffs. That means out of the 44 games left the habs will need to win 32 games, 32 games = 64pts + the 36pts we have =100pts.
Don't forget the teams in front of us we will have to leap frog over also.
Thats pretty much what the habs are looking??? at.
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I don't know..... I just have this feeling that MB is buying time by telling molson if we can land tavares everything will be ok.
I just don't see MB going anywhere anytime soon.
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Don't forget we need the teams in front of us to lose so we can leap frog them. Just to be on the safe side of things we would need to win 34 of 44 games. Do you see this team only losing 10 games out of their next 44? Ladies and gentlemen we need to be selling at after the all star break. Get a top 5 pick hope for the 1st overall pick. Rebuild this team around Gallagher and Price.
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Ok so we have 44 games left, we have 36pts. To make the playoffs you will need about 96 plus points. That means we need to win 30 out of the 44 games( just for a chance at the playoffs) . I don't think this group is good enough to win 30 out of 44 games. We haven't put together any sort of wining streak together other than the 5 games when price came back. I think MB needs to start thing about getting a lottery pick. Trade Plekenec, petry , Shaw. Try and see what kind of package we can get back for Pacioretty. Then with all the cap space we can retool this teams core. Its time to break out of this groundhog day loop that this team Seems to be in.
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Here's a question, is the only reason MB still have a job because he is a home town boy???? I wonder how fast he would of been fired if he wasn't a home town boy.
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MB is putting all his eggs in the tavares basket??. If he doesn't sign here on July 1st, I would hate to see the type of players he over pays for.
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The only type of teams that would try and trade for max at the deadline, would be playoff teams. The problem is you might not get what you want for him because of that. If we're going to trade a player like max I would wait tell the draft to do it. Get more teams in on him and try and get the most you can for him.
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Wishing everyone and everyone's family a very save and Merry Christmas???? and happy holidays to everyone.
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When price is hurt and we can't win games because our weaknesses are UNmasked they don't make trades. Why because they have the excuse oh wait tell price gets back it will all be better.
When price goes into a slump and we don't win games because our weaknesses are unmasked, again they don't make trades. Why because they use the same excuse, wait tell price finds his game it will all be better.
Man these excuse are getting old real fast. I feel bad for price because I want him to win a cup. But as long as this organization hides behind him and doesn't address team needs and improve the team, he is just wasting away his good years.
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13 minutes ago, Toronthab said:
We're doing well on the cap!
Oh good can't wait to see what 4th line player with grit we give 8mil a year too on July 1st ?
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1 minute ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I know it's easier said than done, but I want to see this core blown up. They're boring *and* they are never going to win anything. Remember a few years ago when we used to talk about a Cup 'window?'
Again as long as price is on the team they will never blow it up. Feel bad for price, I want him to win a cup.
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5 minutes ago, sbhatt said:
There's a serious lack of offensive talent on this team, especially at center. There's also a lack of compete in many amongst this forward group...how many puck battles did we win tonight? Not many. Net drive? Maybe 3 or 4 guys on this team even think about going hard to the net.
Not just puck battles, how many faceoffs have we won? Sad to say but this organization hides behind price and by doing so wont address team needs.
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This organization hides behind Price, which is why they don't make the moves they should make. If price gets hurt and the team goes down hill, oh don't worry everything will be better once price comes back. If price goes through a rough patch and the team slides, oh don't worry everything will be better once price finds his game.
I am starting to think the best thing for price and us is a trade. because they will never get the players to help him Or us win a cup. As long as he is on this team they will never improve it. Just the same old band aid type deals that we are custom to seeing.
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On 2017-12-15 at 9:21 AM, ehjay said:
does any1 think there could be a trade to be had with the Sens?
MaxPac + 1rd round round in 2018
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E. Karlson + 3rd round pick in 2019
(edit) I guess it would be "a bit" more then that after what Dorion gave for MD yet I feel the cap friendly hit + 1 full year on the contract of MaxP can be played as a chip in this trade to happen without having to give up next few years of picks. He can even eat a few bucks on the contract and Really increase the value of that "chip" but again he would Need a little sales/collections in him to do such a haggle.
More like price for Karlsson, other wise sens don't stay on the phone.
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Been a busy day at the restaurant, was going to ask how the game was but then saw the score. Did the guys forget we had a game?
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4 minutes ago, johnnyhasbeen said:
You are quite wrong here. Montreal's percentage of draft picks making the NHL is actually above average. What we have to do is keep the kids we draft longer. We are too quick to give away top prospects.
Over the last 6 years how many first round picks does Montreal have that are full time NHL players playing on the team or that we traded and there playing full time mins on a other team? I count just 2 in Beaulieu and galchenyuk . Thats not a good track record.
Over the last 6 years players that were not pick in the first round that are playing full time in NHL are
Andrighetto
Lenkonen
Hudon
Rose
So you are telling me our drafting is above average when all we have playing in the NHL over the last 6 years is 6 players?
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4 hours ago, REV-G said:
I know we've talked a lot about what the problems are with our team. We have digressed from a few years ago. Instead of taking steps forward, we've slid back, at least into the middle of the pack, and by the end of this year, who knows where we'll be. Will we get it together and look like a good team like we have on our recent 5 game winning streak over the past few weeks or are our secondary players overachieving and will we end up being a team that scores sporadically. We know that most likely Carey will win us games and keep us in games but can we compete with the better teams ahead of us in the standings?? All valid questions.
One of the most concerning things has been who we've drafted and how they've turned out. We traded PK because he supposedly didn't play the right way. We're probably going to trade a 3d pick in a draft, Alex Galchenyuk, a former 30 goal scorer, because he isn't the centre we thought he was and has regressed and is now being bounced all over the lineup. I get it that maybe he isn't playing right. Is it him or our system that has turned him into who he is today. Are there personal issues going on here behind the scenes like Mike Rebeiro?? Have we not taken proper care of our players development and futures?? Is this normal? Do all teams have these issues and what are other teams doing in this area?
We drafted first rounders Nathan Beaulieu, Jared Tinordi, Louis Leblanc and they're all gone with hardly anything to show for them. We don't have any blue chip prospects, unless Noah Juulsen is considered in that category. We seem to have drafted some good players this year, but based on our track record how will they turn out.
I look at our core, and while we have some good young players like Drouin, Gallagher, Paul Byron, maybe Arturi Lehkonen, and as of the past week maybe our new fourth line [but will they be able to sustain that energy and scoring touch?]. I look at even Max P. and I'm wondering is he done in Montreal or is it just a slump. Is he going to be another John Leclair and once he lands somewhere else he'll soar because he'll have better line mates and a different culture? He looks a bit like he's going through the motions and he's lost some desire and energy.
For me our whole system right now seems frustrating. Something systemic seems broken. And it doesn't seem to be just one person. I don't know if frustration with our whole system is fair or if that really is the problem. Just a few years ago, with the players we had, incoming players were saying we had a great room. Now??
I know we've said all this before but other than Trevor Timmons I almost feel like we're descended into the former Leaf-like crisis. Do we need to change almost everything from the President right on down to our scouts and our AHL coach. Am I seeing the glass half empty or are we really in that place??
It's hard sometimes to put your finger on just one thing when there appears to be leaks in the ship all over! But in my mind I think the issue is leadership, starting at the top. I think these people are good human beings but I think our problem is primarily in the top levels of leadership. Our system seems broken. This is what I think has to change. Geoff Molson has to step aside and put in a very good hockey man as President , who then needs to replace our current GM with the best GM available, period. Then let him rebuild the front office leadership staff because based on results I'm beginning to think they're ver overrated, pst their shelf life, unfortunately like a lot of things Marc B. has done. Then remake our scouting and coaching staff so our whole system can be reorganized and we can return to being one of the best run organizations. I don't think just constantly changing players is now the answer.
What do you think? Is there a solution possible with one or two player moves or do we need to clear the decks of our top level leadership?? If we need to clear the decks, as in from the President on down and come in with a new system and new leaders, I'm personally willing and actually would look forward to it, but to keep going year to year like this, lurching forward a bit and falling back a bit with seemingly not a solid plan in place frustrates everyone.
I think this year is the time. Let's hope.
Our problems are depth and player development. When our core group became our core group we stop the development of players and drafting and adding depth. We are now seeing the results of that.
The reason we go on slides when we have key injuries is the result of lack of depth from bad drafting and lack of player development. Thats what the last 7 years we have seen the team go through the same problems. Until this gets fixed no matter who replaces who the same results will keep happening, just like they have been.
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17 minutes ago, DON said:
Hope Quebec gets a franchise ASAP, was a great rivalry.
I agree miss those playoff games.
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11 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Didn't he also hire Gauthier?
Lets not pretend GG was perfect on his hires.
No he hired bob, bob brought in gauthier
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19 minutes ago, DON said:
You think Molson isn't a diehard Hab fan and winning a cup is of little interest to him? Seriously?
And moreso than a Billionaire who simply bought couple fancy toys in Liverpool and the Habs...you think Gillette is still following the Habs? I would bet against it.
When he owned the team he put people in place that brought respect back to the organization. It doesn't matter if he is following the habs he doesn't own them so doesn't have to.
Molson doesn't care what's going on as long as they are making money.
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I don't understand how MB could take a team that was just 2 key players away from a possible Stanley cup win, and turning it into what it is now.