Metallica
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4 minutes ago, Commandant said:
You argued that clutch would be the reason some players make more money than others. It was a straw man.
Of course you have no argument left... so now you attack me personally. No actual argument so you say i haven't grown up and am spoiled....
All doing that attack does is show you have nothing left here.
You're the one crying about that you don't care what the Internet says even though it explains clutch.
And FYI top players get paid top money because they come up big in games. THAT IS CLUTCH..
Thats ok I am end Ing this since you are the type that's needs to be right all the time.
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You miss read what I wrote. I never said all players are the same. You are the one saying all players are the same and that there no clutch players.
Thats ok thought you're haven't grow up yet and still have to get your way. That comes from someone who has been spoiled there whole life.
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Lol you know you're wrong, so just say so. You gave me a negative just because you can't admit that you are wrong. Thats not right.
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29 minutes ago, Commandant said:
No... Elite players get paid more cause they are elite.
Sidney Crosby is a better player than Jacob de la Rose and is paid as such.
He is a better player in game 1 of the regular season, in game 27 of the regular season and in the playoffs.
Being a better player is not being clutch.
My saying that clutch is a myth doesn't mean that i think every player is the same... this is a ridiculous argument that you have made. A total strawman.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clutch_(sports)
Read what that says
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There's a reason why not everyone in sports in any league make the same amount of money. The elite players get paid the most money because they are clutch players. When the game is on the line your best players are your clutch players.
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33 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Houle's incompetence was truly breathtaking, but I'm not sure we can in any way relate the past 15 years of mediocrity to him. Between Savard (who began the mop-up job) and Gainey, who completed a total rebuild and, indeed, a second one after the Great Purge of '09, I think the organization's woes have other roots. (More specifically, player development seemed to be an issue under Bob, along with some rotten luck and some costly mistakes; Goat was a decent hockey mind but a terrible manager of human beings and the organization imploded under him as a result; and MB's ineptitude, while not quite of Houle proportions, has been sufficiently documented that I won't bother reiterating it).
Whether there is a deeper explanation underlying these years of futility - some common problem running through the two owners and three GMs since Houle - is much trickier to discern. It could be as simple as saying that Montreal is a guaranteed profit-machine and that this means managerial people can afford to protect their bum-buddies and their own backsides rather than be absolutely ruthless in seeking a championship. Or maybe it's the opposite problem, i.e., a 'failure' to ever truly tank for multiple years because of a constant hunger to make the playoffs. (Then again, being satisfied with making the playoffs might be a *symptom* of complacency - 'well, if we make the dance, I know I won't get fired, so that's the main thing'). Or something else. But it surely can't still be Reggie's legacy at this point.
I think the issue was that once our core group of players became our core group of players, we stop the drafting and development of players.
We became contenders, and buyers. We depleted the system because we never added to the system just kept taking way from it. We are now seeing the results of that mistake.
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6 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said:
Claude Lemieux was clutch
Man the 90's do I ever miss that brand of hockey.
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31 minutes ago, Commandant said:
They are not really better.... not when you consider that all goalies do slightly better in playoffs because the refs call less penalties and less powerplays means less offence.
Roy is a tremendous goalie. He was also tremendous in the regular season, with many NHL records and vezina trophies to his name.What makes Roy a clutch player is his 2 playoff mvps on 2 different teams and his 4 cups, with 2 different teams. If that's not a definition of clutch performer's I don't know what is.
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23 minutes ago, Commandant said:
So what you are saying is that the players you admire as clutch, are really just guys who are lazy in the regular season?
I wouldn't say lazy, more like they do just enough to get to the playoffs then hit another level once playoffs start.
Lazy are the players that just have a big year at the end of there contracts, in hopes of cashing in on a big deal when they become a ufa.
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12 minutes ago, Worm said:
Clutch is a myth at this level.
If it was not it would mean that playoff performers or late game performers are just lazy the rest of the time.
I think that some are, they don't play as hard in the reg season as they do once playoffs come around.
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23 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Clutch does not exist in Pro Sports
and here is why.
https://www.sbnation.com/2014/1/8/5287484/clutch-nba-frank-deford-random-chaos
I agree that maybe a 3rd or 4th line players can get lucky on a playoff run.
But if you look at Roy number's in the playoffs there better then in the reg season, Thats clutch.
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3 minutes ago, Commandant said:
The guy with the identical points per game in the regular season and the playoffs... yup I know him.
Once again... no such thing as clutch. He's just a good player.
His most important goals were in games 7. To me that's clutch. Showing up when your team needs you the most that's clutch
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17 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Lucky, not clutch.
If he was clutch he could repeat such a performance in future big games. But he didnt.
Does the name Justin Williams ring a bell????
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Wait you mean the years of losing and bad drafting and running the team down to the ground, didn't make you hate him??
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25 minutes ago, DON said:
Nothing that ever has lasted long, not that haven't tried different things over the years, but good idea for thread.
Thanks just thought I would change things up and talk about something different, then the same old things.
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One year I had bought a habs beer mug the one you put in the freezer. When I started to use it the habs went on a winning streak so I kept on using it tell the win streak ended. Man do I ever love that beer mug, still use it to this day. The beer and rum and cokes taste so great in there .
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Was just wondering if anyone has done the same thing come game day?? Before I became a full time chef and had more time on my hands to watch games I could never go to a bar to watch the game. It had to be at home and I had to have pizza and wings and a rum and coke. But now a days I work long hours and have been eating healthier, so cut down on the wings and pizza.
So being new here thought I would ask and see??? what others do.
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12 minutes ago, DON said:
I rather Oilers just give him to us for nothing but Hemsky and Morrow.
WHY do vast majority of proposals involve piling up a big bunch of low value Hab 'stuff' and actually think that will get a quality player in return?
Don’t forget that the player coming back our way seems to always be from Montreal ?
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Sadly I don’t see MB making any trades. The only time he will improve this team is on July 1st. With this cap space it scares me to see who he will over pay for .
he isn’t giving up on this core so that means pacioretty, galchenyuk and Gallagher (only bargaining chips he has to trade) aren’t going to be traded. Unless he gets exactly what he wants. So that leaves prospects, which we have very little of. So based on that I don’t see much happening at the deadline. If he could of made a trade he would of by know. That’s what happens when you back yourself in a corner.
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Hey I do believe since I started posting we been on a win streak ?
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Just now, Trizzak said:
1 point.
Yeah missed that he had 1 helper
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Has anyone seen our captain tonight?? All these goals and no point's
My bad he had one helper tonight ?
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Do you think wings could make a comeback in this one ?
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Who are these boys and can they please stay the entire year ????
Bergevin......
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In my opinion this team started to go down hill once molson took it over again. They didn't care when they owned it before and its the same BS now with them.
The Last time a owner cared about this team and its fans was George Gillett.