Habsfan89
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13 minutes ago, Commandant said:
You just get certain people who do nothing but take shots at others.
Heck there is one poster, who hasn't posted in several months, who came back here just to make one post to take a personal shot at me.
in fact if you look at his profile, his last 6 posts have all been personal shots at me.
the last time he posted something that was actually a real post, and not a personal attack, was June 30, 2019.... so I dont think it even has to do with the negativity of this season... he's just wants to make things personal and doesn't have anything of actual substance to say at all. Hence why I call him a clown.Hey if you're talking about me my post It wasn't to you but more at Don. He always ask for you to name a name just so he can discredit your argument with stats.
I know we have had disagreements on topics but it's just good convention to me.
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50 minutes ago, Commandant said:
I wouldn't.... You win in hockey by building a team, not by having one player.
I agree you're giving up a big piece of what could be our future core group of guys to get one guy.
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19 minutes ago, nihilz said:
YA! Stop being ignorant! The professional blogger needs you to accept his rational and doesnt care if you aren't a professional blogger. Respect his mastery and submit to his clearly superior rational. P.S. How dare you have an opinion.
I take it you also aren't a fan of the stat police on here. Thats why I stopped naming names of players we should try a trade for. There's people on here that always want you to name names just so they can discredit your comment with stats. If you don't put names then they can't argue your point because they can't put stats in their argument.
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25 minutes ago, Commandant said:
If i was a minnesota fan, id want to keep him
That said... two weeks ago darren dreger said he might be available
And then in his 31 thoughts this week freidman said the leafs were talking to the wild about him.
If hes on the market... hes a replacement for petry to me.
You know their going to ask for romanov as a key part of any trade talk for dumba
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1 hour ago, Commandant said:
I'd trade Petry for as many young assets as I could get.
Then I'd flip those assets and maybe a little more to Minnesota for Mathew Dumba, replacing him with a younger puck moving top-4 RHD.
Always loved Dumba as a player, but isn't Minnesota in the same boat as us ? They're either resetting or rebuilding, but don't want to trade their core group of guys.
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50 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
Yes, if you can fill a big hole by trading Domi then you have to consider it. In my opinion Domi's trade value is high because of his age, ability and passion for the game. Trading Petry would create a hole in the short term but he is also winding down on the last quarter of his career, depends what you could get. He would definitely be a valuable piece for a contender but is it worth giving him up for a late 1st round pick?
Not if we're planning on being a playoff team next year. Trading Petry would hurt our playoff chances because it would weaken us even more on D if it was just for a 1st round pick.
But if you trade him for lets say a younger NHL ready D and a 2nd round pick , Then I would looking into it.
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My whole argument with this is , i am always going to be willing to trade from my team strength to fill my team weaknesses. Danault isn't probably going to be traded neither is Suzuki or Kotkaniemi. So that leaves us with either Domi or Poehling, most team's asking would more then likely want Domi over Poehling. unless you're packaging Poehling with someone or draft picks then that might be a different story.
But I for one don't see Bergevin trading Domi unless contract talks go south and Domi wants too much money.
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1 minute ago, Commandant said:
If someone offers an overpayment... anyone on the team is tradeable... this isnt even a debate. If columbus wants to give zach werenski for domi of course we do it.
The only thing im saying is you dont need to trade then just to trade them. If you arent getting great value in a young nhl proven star defender, then there is no reason to jettison a player like domi. We don't need to move him just to move him.
I agree you don't trade them just to trade them. You trade them to fill holes on the team. I am not going to over look a trade opportunity to trade from strength to fill a weakness. This was my whole argument from the get go.
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Nice goal Gallagher welcome back.
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1 hour ago, Commandant said:
1 of the centres can play wing and then you have a player who shifts back to the middle if another centre is hurt.
There is no rule that you can only have 4 centres on the roster
This has already been said by multiple posters but you keep ignoring it.
No because my point is if Bergevin is looking to trade for a top D and the team he's talking to needs and ask for Domi, don't you think he would agree to it since we're strong at center.
Or is he going to say oh no forget it i am putting my centers at wing. Doesn't make sense. THAT's THE POINT, if there's a player he's trying to trade for and the only way to get him is to give up Domi he will do it.
Oh and why don't you ask Edmonton how while your way of thinking works. They've been doing that the last what 8 years with the all their forwards.
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36 minutes ago, Commandant said:
I don't get it. It makes me want to bang my head against the wall.
Everyone wants to trade domi for picks and prospects.
I posted this once already but it still applies.
Wow what don't people get......
We have Danault, Domi, Kotkaniemi, Suzuki and poehling that are centers. If Bergevin is looking for a top LD and the team he's talking to needs a center to get the deal done , out of the 5 Domi would probably be the most likely to be trade. Thats what this discussion is about. My god whys that so hard to understand.
Shit you bring up someone's name and all of a sudden the stat police come out.
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1 hour ago, huzer said:
By the time Patches was traded, he had five 30goal seasons. Teams had a good idea what they were getting. Domi has had 1 season of 70pts, and other seasons closer to the 50-55pt realm (including this year). The situations aren't at all similar. The closest the Habs would have in value to Pacioretty is Gallagher. Expiring term after next season, established NHLer with a couple of 30 goal seasons behind him.
Geez, talking about youth movements and wanting to get rid of a 24 year old player. Domi is worth more to the Habs as a player than as a trade asset.
You're not listening, we didn't want to trade Pacioretty but had too. He was our best opinion to get back what we needed to fill holes.
We find ourselves in a similar situation with our centers. Which is why I compared it to Pacioretty.
Out of our centers if we were to trade one of them it would be between Domi and Poehling. Domi would be the one giving us the higher return then Poehling.
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6 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:
A younger version of Patches, never close to 30g seasons.
More like...
Cammalleri?! Desharnais ?! A. Kotsistin?!No I Ment the situation, we traded Pacioretty because he would give us the higher return . Domi right now out of the centers we have other than Danault we give us the higher trade return. Suzuki, Kotkaniemi, poehling are still young. Can't capitalize on their trade value unless you package them with someone or picks. But domi alone could get you a higher return if you don't want to pay him.
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23 minutes ago, revvvrob said:
I don’t think we should be moving Domi ... but I bet the Leafs are the team that would overpay for him.
Domi is kind of like Pacioretty, we didn't want to trade him, but he was Bergevin best option to get a high return on. If Domi wants around 7mil a year I think Bergevin going to trade him rather than pay him. But if he's around 5.5mil a year he stays as a habs.
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29 minutes ago, DON said:
Legit question, how has the Habs GM shown he thinks 1 player will win a championship? I dont get it.
Price , I am sure you get it. You're just trying to get a certain type of reaction.
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Just now, dlbalr said:
He hasn't played much in recent years but he's up with Nashville with Ryan Ellis out.
Good for him, never should of drafted him in the first round, but good on him.
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4 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
Nearly ten years after the Habs drafted him, Jarred Tinordi has his first NHL goal.
Didn't even think he was still playing in the NHL
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1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said:
If we have another two year of zero prospects becoming impactful NHL players, Weber , Petry and Price will be too old and the Habs will need to do a tank job like PITT and CHI did
Don't go there with some of these guys, just don't go there .................
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1 hour ago, DON said:
OK, this should be good, how has Bergy shown he thinks this?
Ah you and your one liner post
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27 minutes ago, Commandant said:
A perfect example of why tanking gets you nowhere.
The Sabres tanked for Ekblad, lost the lottery and got Reichel
The Sabres tanked for McDavid, lost the lottery and got Eichel.
A bad team got an 8th overall pick and took Alex NylanderAnother bad team got an 8th overall pick and took Casey Mittlestadt.
They tanked again and got Dahlin.
Another bad team and they got the 7th overall pick and took Cozens.
Where are they after all of this.
Tanking guarantees nothing.
It gets you an elite player that if you do it properly can build a championship team around. But one player doesn't win you championships, which a lot of gm's don't understand including ours.
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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Yep. Any strategy that maximizes the chance of adding an impact prospect to a talent pool that needs 1-2 more impact prospects, is what we should be doing.
This is why I have been saying we should be trying to be a lottery pick team this year and not trying for a playoff spot. But once our players come back from injury, this team will end up picking 15th again instead of in the top 5.
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10 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:
I was off over evaluating Petry thinking we could a first a second and a prospect
I really wish they could send him to Pittsburg for P-O Joseph their 1st and one of their goalies (DeSmith?)
I would package Petry to make it work. DeSmith would fit well as backup for the CH (he has done it before) and Olivier is a solid prospect
Wonder what a package of Byron and Petry could land us. Both guys would add depth to any playoff run
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23 minutes ago, tomh009 said:
Could we trade Tatar to the Stars at deadline for a couple of defensive prospects, or a prospect and a pick? Dallas is quite deep on D but needs some scoring.
And with our D strengthened, look for the right deal for Petry?
I think Bergevin needs to make a decision on where to go next year first. If he thinks this is a playoff team, then i don't see him trading anyone that's under contract still. If he feels that we continue to stay young , then yeah you trade guys like Tatar, Petry and listen to what's out there for price and weber.
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8 minutes ago, Commandant said:
If we were one player away from winning a cup, wed be having a different discussion. But we arent. So hoard young talent and build a team knowing that not every youngster will develop so you build your team by having many options at each position
Ok so you think we're not close to winning a cup, and you want young talent but yet you don't want to go through the pains of losing and becoming a lottery pick team to get that top talent you talk about. And your ok with being a bubble team, makes no sense to me.
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Here's a question would you dangle Petry to other bubble teams in the top 10 of the draft to move into a top ten spot if we're not picking in the top ten? I am looking at New Jersey they could use a guy like Petry on their D and aren't rebuilding. So if they're picking lets say anywhere from 5-10 would they take a trade of Petry + Byron for a pick from 5-10 if they had one? That's if there was a guy in the draft there that we really wanted.