Habsfan89
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13 minutes ago, sbhatt said:
That's what this smells like...desperation to get red hot goaltending to stop the slide.
Sounds to me like they're throwing him under the bus🚍, and not desperation.
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17 minutes ago, DON said:
Who for who?
Trade what guys for whom exactly?
What is "right"?
If you're going to rebuild, that means you're planning on being a lottery pick team over the next 4 years. So you don't need You high priced guys like weber and price and petry. Trade them get draft picks and young NHL ready prospects.
If you're just retooling that means you keep those guys but go out get them help. None of this do nothing approach that's been going on.
Get NHL Proven guys that are a good fit for CJ system.
Do you want to float in space or do you want to reach mars? I for one want to reach mars.
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9 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
I hope not. He's not exactly playing well in Laval lately and if this losing streak keeps going, nothing like putting a 20-year-old in net and asking him to snap a 10-game losing streak in his NHL debut. That could backfire in a whole lot of ways.
A couple of points:
1) That still could very well happen. This is a very short-term assignment by all accounts (think a week or two just to get a few starts and get into a bit of a rhythm).
2) Why do you seem to derive so much enjoyment from anything that's negative? Dare I ask who your realistic backup goalie preference was over the summer?
To me its not the goaltending its the team in front. Like I said in an other post, You get what you pay for. You don't want NHL Proven guys and you want young guys, this is the product you get.
I don't, I just bring it back up For no reason. I get ripped by people who think these are all great moves by Bergevin.....then they don't work out. Its kinda of like I told you so.
I am just tired of this floating in space that we seem to be doing over the last 6 years. I want a cup, and I want us to be a team that is looked at as a top 5 team.
So if we're aren't rebuilding get our guys NHL talent to help them win.
If we're rebuilding then trade these guys go young and do it right.
No more floating in space
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So what happen to habs should have more wins this year with kinkaid?
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19 minutes ago, tomh009 said:
I thought you want a lottery pick?
I don't want a lottery pick i want a cup theirs a difference.
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Looks like the official word on Mete is 2 weeks. Man oh man this D is in trouble. this could be a long losing streak, and our season ending before the all star break.
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15 minutes ago, tomh009 said:
I'd give NJ Kirk Muller if we could get Mirco Mueller, NHL or not!
Actually, maybe if they just gave us a bag of pucks ...
He really hasn't done much as a coach since he came back, has he 🤔
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Oh wait we got more games the season isn't over yet 😟
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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
The idea of a deal involving some configuration of Price+ and Hall/Blackwood *is* intriguing, though. Highly unlikely but a fun parlour game scenario.Well NJ needs goaltending and a replacement for hall so how about
To NJ
Price and Tatar
To habs
Hall and Blackwood
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7 minutes ago, Link67 said:
This is a confidence, shock and awe type of disintegration, the structure in its principle is good, we play a new age, quick transition game. Players know where they should be players know who should be back checking, who should be supporting. Problem is they are all playing the game like there is a hand grenade on the ice, every decision becomes a rogue decision, the thought process cannot be understood in this context by anyone, coaches, the players themselves, people watching.
The execution is not there in any of the structure because they are mentally shot, they need a shot in the arm, a lucky win, something to shake the mental state of this entire team. I was expecting some growing pains when they began this quick rebuild for a couple of years, but this is well below what this team should be, they are supposed to be a bubble team, not a lottery one.
Hey you Get what you pay for. You want young players over NHL Proven players. You want to save cap space. This is the product you get.
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3 minutes ago, tomh009 said:
On D, I really think the issue is the personnel. Can we get Gostisbehere? Or Vatanen? Sadly we'll probably have to overpay in our current predicament but it might be necessary to do that.
Well we got 3 nhlers on our D , the rest should be developing in the AHL. That tells you all you need to know.
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4 minutes ago, Habber31 said:
It's not going to happen, but at what point do people start getting fired
If CJ is coaching the D system then he Needs to goes. Other wise who ever it is needs to go. The D structure is terrible.
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Same old team same old problems. This is what happens when you don't upgrade.
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Its like they wait for something bad to happen. Then when it does it goes down hill.
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Its almost like its quick sand with this team. They get scored on and they just keep sinking.
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1 hour ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:
There is no team in the NHL that can or will take Price and that contract on. None... zero... zilch.
You are absolutely incorrect. He is un-tradeable currently. We would have to give him away or retain huge salary and he would have to OK the deal.
And Yes, he turned it around in Mid December LY and finished strong. But, it was to late. If he keeps it up, this year will be lost as well!
He was horrible ALL season the year before that. And the season before that he finished the season horribly.
So again, I am personally of the opinion hes un-tradeable at this point and will have to really catch fire to be tradeable. At that point we will all ant to keep him.
To Toronto
Price We eat 2mil of his contract each year
To habs
Nylander & Anderson
You don't think Toronto would do that trade. Price on that team gives them a chance to win the cup.
To buffalo
Price
To habs
Ristolainen & Hutton
You don't think buffalo would do that. They need goaltending they would take that trade easy.
NJ would love to have Price, Calgary would love to have Price, Vancouver would love to have Price.
His play has been bad, but not all on him. Its the team in front of him too.
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37 minutes ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:
Price is untradeable!!!!!!!
Price isnt going nowhere. He has played himself right out of top goalie in the world status... His contract is quite the albatross.
He isnt stealing games and if he does they are few and far between. He is not even close to the being the player who won the Hart and earned those millions. THIS is bigger than our need for a #1 LD IMHO
Don't kidd yourself their would be a lot of contending teams that need goaltending would love Price.
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37 minutes ago, Meller93 said:
Would the devils part with Blackwood/hall for say, Price, one of our top prospects (poehling, romanov or brook?) and a second?
Or do they value Blackwood too highly
I think they would be interested in Tatar to replace some of halls scoring. Plus he's under contract. So Tatar would be a starting point in trade talks.
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7 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
It's not a question of doing nothing. Panic moves rarely work.
Its the same thing with this organization over the last what 20 years. Something needs to change.
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39 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Yes, making a 19 year old second year player, a 20 year old rookie and a 21 year old defenceman... 3 of those 5 new leaders.
Good plan!!
I can't believe i didn't see this before.
and when BG changed the group, he kept Markov, he acquired Gionta, Gomez and Cammalleri, he had Hamrlik, Spacek, ... he had Plekanec... he acquired Moen, there were veterans around.
Thats 3 Cup winners (4 rings) and a lot of games of experience he had.
I guess your way is always right, lets just keep the Path we're on and do nothing. continue to finish just outside a playoff spot and pick from 15-20. Then when the young guys are ready to make the NHL, just in time for Price, Weber and petry to retire and we end up with nothing for them.
That makes a so much better plan.
Because it worked so will with Markov, lets do it again.
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11 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Trade everyone. Have no veterans.. Go all youth, and fail miserably as there are no leaders.
We've seen this and its taken edmonton over a decade to get out of the depth spiral they caused by doing this.
How are their no leaders????
Danault
Domi
Kotkaniemi
Mete
Suzuki
Become your new group of leaders
You forget when BG change over the leader group Price, Pk, Gallagher, Pacioretty they were all young players.
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Management has to choose is it a rebuild or false hope retool .
I for one would go full rebuild. Have the new core of guys be
Danault
Domi
Kotkaniemi
Mete
Suzuki
Poehling
Fleury
Prime
Armia
Lehkonen
Keep these guys build the team around them.
Trade Weber, Price, Gallagher, Petry, Byron, Tatar
Get what you can for those guys. Completely change the atmosphere/voices in the dressing room.
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7 minutes ago, JoeLassister said:
I disagree on many levels.
I disagree that playing Cousins an extra 3 mins makes him THAT less efficient. He's not 34 years old about to retire.I disagree that giving the extra 2 mins on the PP to Kotkaniemi makes him run out of gas at what, 19 years old.
I disagree that giving an extra 2 mins on the PK to Suzuki makes him run out of gas at what, 19 years old.
Most of the mental break downs I've seen this past week concernent defensemen anyway. Bad pinching. TONS of bad pinching.
Well the 6 game losing streak and many break downs say otherwise.
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11 minutes ago, JoeLassister said:
KK basically took Drouin's minutes on the PP. (why Weal is still getting 1st PP minutes is beyond me though)
You have Weal and Hudon full time instead of Drouin and Byron.
And then you have Cousins playing 3 more minutes/game than what he used to when Drouin and Byron were on the ice.
And Suzuki with some PK time to replace Byron's.
I Don't think that #1 and #4 are a big deal, although Weal on the PP is killing me.
#2 hurts a lot. It's a HUGE drop of talent.
#3, meh. He's not a big problem IMO.
He has no other option. Theirs a big deal in talent, 1st line and 4th line talent is different. Plus you're playing more minutes then you are use to playing which means you run. Out of gas faster. That's why theirs so many break downs on the defensive side of their game.
Kinkaid on waivers
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Theirs only so much someone can do when it comes to turn over, breakaways, 2 on 1's, and being unable to clear the puck from the front of the net. Are some of the goals on our goaltending yes, but not all over them. If Price makes 3 saves but they score on the 4 shot because his team cant clear the zone is that on him?