IN THE HEARTS OF MEN
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Would it be wrong to say price went cold in the finals and we spotted them 3 games... specifically games 1 2 and 3....
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Putting together Armia Staal Perry was genius... they played like a 2nd line in that run..
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Mailloux is to much...
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The Habs aren't trading Hutson
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14 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
I agree, I think it's a case of the press running with a story because perhaps he told some friends he would like to play for the Habs one day. I don't think you can crucify a guy for being a Habs fan.
Hes also put together a good season and hasn't been a distraction at all.
It was his agent that planted that story about him wanting out of Winnipeg and who could blame him..
As for colombus, alot of players wanted to get away from Torts and maybe even kekalianan... The list is long from panarin and Duchene to brobo and Jones... heck even Anderson was dealt after he would only agree to a 1 year deal.
Dan Robertson called PLD a borderline dominant star after watching him live all season for what it worth...
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I'm growing more and more optimistic that a deal will be done after the draft lottery involving FLA 1st and Dvorak. Who or what else is yet to be determined...
Maybe a Dman prospect considering we snatched Kovacevic from them on the free as well.
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You would think if we stay at #5 it's either Benson or Smith... unless one of the 2 go earlier but highly unlikey
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Bedard in Habs jersey... wow
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6 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
Agree, that's basically my thinking. I think of Evans as a perfect 4th line centre who can move up to 3rd line when required. Good team guy, who will score the odd big goal, play good defense and is on a decent contract. Not bad for a 7th round pick. Not huge trade value so no point trading him.
I think of Lehkonen as a perfect 3rd liner on a good team who can move up when required as he has the speed to keep up with elite players. Great attitude and team guy. Certainly a lot more value than Evans will ever have but we are comparing a 2nd round pick versus a 7th round pick so you would expect that.
Well Lehks was used primarily in a top 6 role on Stanley cup champion Avs
Also playing in top 6 of Stanley cup finalist Habs...
I think you could all be wrong here...
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Scary hit on the kid
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Just the confidence alone to make that pass with 3 seconds left instead of the the easy take the shot he was given...
Sublime!
Caufields finish too...
Bottom corner... fantastic!
This guy is a 50 goal scorer in the making
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8 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
That was the dead puck era. Absolute numbers tell us nothing. Saku Koivu led the league in points for much of that season and at worst was in the top-5 before he went down.
Suzuki is #10 in league scoring right now.
This suggests that at this moment Suzuki is about at the same level Koivu hit before his ACL blew out. Although frankly, if Suzuki were #1 in league scoring, like Koivu was, we would be losing our minds. That would be considered “next level” from where Slick Nick is right now.
Koivu simply was not the same player after that injury. No comparison. He was still an excellent player, but that injury shifted him from an elite #1C to a #1A.
Although only Suzuki and Goal Caufield are what I’d call sure things among the FW - guaranteed, sure-fire top-line talent - when you factor in how the young D has looked, you’re absolutely right. You have to go back to the Savard rebuild to see anything analogous. And with the exception of John LeClair, even that rebuild lacked top-end offensive talent like Slick Nick and CC. It may not be a stretch to say that we have not seen such a comprehensive wave of quality young talent enter the organization since the early 1970s. Not that this bunch will ever hold a candle to that group [!!!], just that in terms of overall calibre, this may prove to be the best batch of young talent brought up in a relatively short span of time since that era.
I still believe the biggest obstacle to koivu's career was linemates post habs strip down after the Roy saga. He was surrounded by some really good players in damphouse, turgeon, recchi, rucinsky and even an end of career richer etc. to name a few. When he came back from his knee they were essentially all gone with nobody coming through the pipeline until plex came through and the kovalev trade...
The big issue to his speed was his decision to wear a knee brace for the initial seasons post surgery for comfort and extra safety. But, he did end up removing it and only put it back on when he sprained his other knee again years later.
I wore my brace for 2 seasons after my ACL and LCL full repairs and it slowed me down significantly. When I decided to remove it, I had zero issue with mobility or speed.
I believe using his cancer, eye injury and knee injury to justify his drop in production from those 50 games in his sophomore season was and is the easy way to make excuses for him. The sad fact is the Montreal Canadiens were stripped down of all there quality and were completely mis-managed for years. We never rebuilt this team properly until the lead up to their Centennial season.
Countless players have their knees repaired and don't miss a beat 2 years post up. Put koivu in a quality top 6 for his first 5/10 seasons and surely his stats would have been in the upper echelons of the league that was staked with +100 point players.
However, taking a 50 game stretch of a 20 year career is an out-layer no different than saying Brian Savage was an elite scorer using only the month of October.
The saddest part of this all is looking back and saying what if...
Koivu has always to me = true champion on a terrible team
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Suzuki is one of the top centers in hockey right now... is 200ft game is sublime
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29 minutes ago, Helmethead said:
Nick Suzuki.
Just wow.
Flabbergasted.
The composure to thread the puck through with 3 seconds left.
To tap DeAngelo’s pads after the goal.
Then the speed of his hands in tight during the shootout.
I’ve said it before.
Sorry Cuccumber, I respect you tremendously but I’ve been watching this team religiously since 1984 and I watched Koivu through his magical run pre injury. Suzuki is the best position player this team has had since Lafleur.
We make it sound like Saku was tearing it up and then fell off the map post ACL... he had 56 points in 50 games before going down... basically a PPG season.
It was an ACL injury. He was fine after that like most players are. He played 17 seasons after that.
Loved Saku for his fight and just maybe if he had better linemates throughout his career he could of produced a heck of a lot more instead of featuring solo on his lines for the largest of stretches. That was way more of a crutch then his Knee repair
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1 hour ago, DON said:
No, alongside #14 & #22
that is not happening. They are arguably the hottest line in hockey right now. Why would we change that? and with Hoffman having some recent scoring success on the dvorak line the only other choice would be to put him back on the 4th with Armia and Evans and move Drouin up or put Slav with Mona and Ander... i would love to see the new lines but figure he draws back in on the 4th where he left
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Galchenyuk is NOT a Center... multiple teams and there systems have proved this to be true.
Kotkaniemi put up good numbers as a rookie and that 1st year in no way hurt his development. If anything injuries in his 1st 2 seasons hurt his development and that could of been attributed to not being physically ready (weight). But don't tell me an NHL players career is defined by what happened and were he played in his rookie season.
Galchenyuk didn't cut it.
KK bailed on us
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does he draw in on the left of Monahan and Anderson in place of Dadonov?
I think so
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On 11/13/2022 at 2:05 PM, hab29RETIRED said:
It’s pointless drafting players if you can’t develop them. Habs made a good deal for Suzuki, and had had Caufield fall on their laps. Neither took off and produced at this pace until they got St. Louis. If Bergevin had stayed we’d probably cycle through to Vigneult, who is not at all the type of coach this team needs right now.
Who knows how KK, Galchenyuk and others would have turned out if we had a better player development staff and plan. We throw to many kids into the fire during key development years. Hell, one of the biggest indictment on the development plan was having an idiot Lefebve for so long.
what a bunch of bull crap... Galchenyuk faultering is on Galchenyuk and has nothing to do with development. He was given all the chances in the world! same goes for KK
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Pezzetta goes down
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Pitlick waived clearly shows there is no intention of sending Slav or any other rookie down currently.
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intial thought was pietrangelo pulled up and showed the numbers but anderson definitely had time to avoid the hit from behind...
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Giving up way to many shots
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All 4 lines are skating tonight
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4 minutes ago, Commandant said:
I don't understand why that wasn't goalie interference. I really don't get the call.
It was 100% goalie interference.. he wasn't even pushed in on top of it all...
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Permanent Trade Proposal Thread
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I'd be willing to move the players not highlighted to upgrade the right side. The answer is not in the UFA market
Matheson Barron
Guhle Savard
Harris Kovacevic
Edmundson Wideman
Xhekaj Mailloux
Engstrom
However, Im content to watch the prospects evolve and just play with a young d core again next season. I think Wideman gets waived before opening roster