IN THE HEARTS OF MEN
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i would of liked to see beaulieau on the right side of markov for a game on the PP but now with gonchar in the mix beaulieau will not get a sniff of the PP when gonchar is in
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i just think beaulieau doesn't know where to be and when..... hence, needs to learn his position more
a simple example of this was last night when MT gave him and gilbert 1st PP wave. they established position and he instantly drifted deep into the zone and out of position. now the back door on the PP is meant to catch a defence sleeping. he creeped in and stayed in ultimately eliminating his point position and a simple puck clear he was un able to keep in the zone, forcing us to re- group.... thats what I'm saying.
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i was told he stunk in ottawa to
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one thing he could probably do for sure is teach PK how to get his shot to hit the net more often then not?
also, if we expect to go deep into the playoffs this year again gonchar is a huge asset even at 40yrs of age....
sorry, I'm a positive attraction guy.... and I'm sure there is many positives to this deal outside of contract only....
Dallas isn't worried about next year's cap. They were a fair amount over the cap (using LTIR) prior to this trade. If they wanted to do anything trade-wise this year, they first needed to clear space. As expiring contracts are a good currency to save space in the current season, Gonchar was a logical one to try to move. The summer is irrelevant to them since they needed space now (and took on one more year of Moen to free up some room).
dallas abysmal PK and our horrible PP this season also was a huge contributing factor to this deal as well outside of the dollars.
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gonchar is one of the greatest offensive defenders of all time i would think know? there's no way anybody can honestly think even his presence alone as the 7th defence in practice wouldn't help immensely... i think he could be top 20 all-time in every offensive category..
id like to see beulieau back down and tinordi up permanently... beaulieau just seems to not know his position enough yet to merit full time minutes.
back to Gonchar... he prefers to play the right side of D more so then left...
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markov gonchar
PK gilbert
or you can use PK on the left half boards in place of paranteau with DD and patch in order to stay on the 1st unit?
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gonchar is 40. stunk in pitt so they dumped him right after the habs eliminated them almost 5 years ago. he stunk in ottawa. he stunk in dallas..............heck he play terrible for the bruins what 10 years ago?
if he plays one shift its too many
habs were a better team yesterday than they are today.
the only plus i have heard about poor ol gonchar is that he/contract is finished this summer.
are you kidding me? he was an offensive dynamo on the back end in pitts no doubt about it..... ok they had crosby, malkin and company but he still he put up over 50 pts in each season there including 2 x +60 point seasons, obviously minus his injured season..
im intrigued to see him play 1st line minutes on the PP! he is one of very few real PP specialists in this league. in fact he and markov should run/ coach the power play not therrien and his staff
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with that said, will MT have the guts to be as bold as MB is in the office, and move subban on the first unit and put gonchar on the right?
maybe try subban on the left half boards??
I'm just salivating a bit at the prospect of these 2 russians running our power play, it could be a match made in heaven!
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i don't know..... I've been asking for a lefty to play the point with markov for over a year.... has MB finally listened? he heard my pleas to move gorges and bring in a righty (weaver) last year.... i think he might be following me on twitter...lol
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i also recall during preseason thinking out loud that he was our most dangerous looking forward in each game he played but had no points to show for it... it looks like we are seeing more of that guy lately and more often... could the points finally start coming?
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Am I the only one who thinks this guy is going to be a really good player for us really soon if not right now?? he's been arguably our best forward over the last 6 periods.... I think the reason he chose montreal is that he's oozing with confidence... constantly mixing up in practice with subban and the bigger guns of this team. he is a talent, he knows it, the team knows it and he believes he can make the habs and be an impact..... pretty bold if you ask me choosing the habs over other teams with less depth.
am i comfortable with MT and MB giving bourque a fair shake to start the season in the line up and letting him fail before dumping him after a good playoff?? i think so...
am i ok with giving a warrior like moen a chance back in the line up and with something to prove after a bad spell of injuries over bournival? i think so.
BUT, for the habs organization to make such a statement with bourque about their ambition and willingness to make the right decisions in order to move forward with this team and make them stronger... speaks volumes about the great things this club has been achieving....
They believe in Sekac right now and i think i do to. there was something i see in him during pre season that i still see in him thus far as well as live in buffalo..... this kid has talent to go with his amazing attitude, dedication and belief in himself......
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He played 3 games, we must have been desperate.
Don he is here to stay. Mark my words.
gonna have to agree.... i don't think hossa (drafted simply by last name in hopes of being his brother) and d'agostini (all speed no hands) are even close to comparing to sekac .... sekac in his few games from preseason till now has looked and played like one of our better forwards... in hindsight, sekac could have been scratched all these games for bourque and to a lesser extent moen to help facilitate a trade... now with bourque's recent waiving, sekac barring injury will play all season long...
thank GOD!!
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FROM ICE LEVEL:
I know at first glance you see buffalo and you think geez 2-1 SO win... big deal. however, watching the game from the benches last night i noticed a few things....
****the pace of the game was actually high last night*** very few whistles it seemed
A) buffalo played a very hard skating tight checking game. seems they were really pushing to get a win for gionta and gorges. they seemed motivated.. BTW did anyone notice gorges pinching and shooting the puck in OT? lol
B) plex and gorges are not friends.... they were chirping each other all night behind the plays and between whistles. plex took a run at him early in the game behind the net and cross checked him a few times to set the tone for the night between the 2..
C) SEKAC was hands down the hardest working player on the ice. he was skating extremely hard, back checking and sometimes trying to do a little to much. his turn over at the blue line happened literally right in front of me and i was screaming to shoot and instead he tries that telegraphed pass! the hit happened right in my corner as well. he slid the puck from the blue line chased it down in to the corner tried to split the defence to get to the puck and finished the check.... disappointing because he really did some good things out there. and i will be extremely disappointed in MT if he takes him out of the line up again saturday.
D) DD is like the little engine that could, rivaled by only sekac in work ethic last night. he just seems to get knocked off the puck to easily... hence his holding and hooking throughout the night to compensate. BTW this guy needs to shoot about 400 pucks on net per practice...
E) Markov is without doubt are best defender.... PK subban is a phenom no doubt. but this team would be done, copout, finished, history.... if markov is out of the line up. anyone questioning his signing in hindsight must be thinking how foolish they must be.
F) honourable mentions to prust, galchenyuk, gallagher, patches, bournival for playing hard
after all this i didn't even mention paranteau and his clutch play... he isn't as slow as you think and i think moving forward he should stick with DD and patch for a little bit. they showed some great promise in preseason and then MT dropped them.. the 3 do seem to play with some cohesion!
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don, dont want even want to talk about the PP.... its brutal!
tinordi needs to find and stay in this line up is all i know...
if were gonna lose at least lose with the kids....
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and oh, when he was totally out coached in last season in the semi finals by venieult
I've been reading this forum in its entirety for 10 years (sure my post count is low but my read count is right up there in rocket richard hall of fame status)... and it seems to me you don't even like the habs.. and are one of the most negative fans I've ever seen come to this forum... and please spare me the mombo jumbo that your a realist and you say it like you see it blah blah blah... do the habs do anything right?? like you keep tossing JM name and what we did in 2010.... our cinderella run in 2010 is not even comparable to LY run... one was a cinderella story. LY it was a young emerging team building off the year prior just like were building this season off LY success (and yes it matters)
FACT: habs are one of the top 10 winningest teams in hockey over the last few years... stats don't lie exact spot not sure but i know its right up there!!
MT has won way more games then he's lost since his return
As for last seasons loss to the rangers i think your completely wrong with that statement. although MT did not have his team prepared to play in game 1 which he is accountable for, the rangers got all the bounces in that series and thats why they won...
ryan mcdonaugh was the series best defender not PK
lundquist was better than tokarski! not by much but better none the less.
best forward can you say st. louis and co or patch? out coached?? get real!!!!
New York defeated Montreal in 6 games.
-With the Rangers holding a 2–1 lead midway through the second period of Game 1, Kreider collided with Price, Although Price finished the rest of the period and let in a couple goals, he did not return for the rest of the series. Budaj played for the rest of the game but the Rangers shelled us 7–2. out coached?
-rookie goalie Dustin Tokarski starts in Game 2. However Henrik Lundqvist stopped 40 of 41 shots, and the rangers score a brace on the PP we lose 3-1. out coached?
- we won game 3 in OT after prust took out stepan and some bad bounce goals both ways galchenyuk scores the biggest goal of his career to date. out coached?***-The Rangers won Game 4, 3–2, as Martin St. Louis scored 6:02 into overtime on the perfect shot into the top left corner of the net..... perfect shot!!! out coached?- The Canadiens then bounced back in Game 5, winning 7–4, as they scored 4 goals out of their first 18 shots, and Rene Bourque recorded a hat trick LOL. although we took the foot off the pedal and allowed the score to climb to 7-4!!! out coached?-However ex hab dom moore ended the series during an emotional rollar coaster off ice(wife) , scored Game 6's only goal very late in the second period, and with a 1–0 lead they put on a clinical defensive effort in the 3rd to close it out.... hardly out coached..now I'm not saying MT is great, geez I'm not even saying he's good.... but his 85-45 record is very good and hardly that of someone who is even considered in the hot seat... as bad as we've played so far we are still 8-4-1 and i believe good teams find ways to win even when we play poorly and we'll soon get out of this early season slump.just saying negativity brings but more negativity.... and its all i read from you!edit***-
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MT messed with a winning line up... he did...
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I wouldn't be so upset with the team if we won by as much as what we lose. Honest to god what is it a -8 differential? -9 maybe? How does a team be somethin like 8-4-1 and have 9 more pal against than for? I know it's jumping the gun a little but something needs to change
i was gonna say.... and miss us finally break out of a major early slump..
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with all that said.... markov is carrying the D these days
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it seems all of MT's decisions right now just don't seem to pan out..... that and this team just isn't competing right now.... ill be at the game in buffalo tomorrow and these guys better not let my 7yr old down or ill be pissed.....
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this is idiotic talk....
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no matter how you look at it... this team stopped scoring goals and began to slump simaulaneously when sekac came out... even so moen playing well (or not)... sekac needs to draw back in... i don't get it.... he scores that memorable goal in front of his family then gets the yank!
patch DD sekac
galchenyuk eller gallagher
bourque plex weise
prust malholtra bournival
I'm sorry but bournival brings way to much speed on the forecheck alone to be ignored any longer... he also kills penalties!
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"something aint right here"
teams with similar records to the habs
Pens + 19 goal differential
Tbay + 10
Wild + 17
Ducks + 13
Habs - 4
a minus four. tells me that the habs winning record is based on a whole lotta puck luck.
or 2 blowouts to tb and calgary
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now remove all players names and insert markov, souray, schneider, streit, bergeron kovy, koivu, ryder plex etc... etc.. what is the common denominator here... thats right a stable presence on the points
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even if we have that net presence.... if the entire 2 minutes is spent trying to enter the zone and we have markov and subban flip flopping constantly and PK is skating all over the place.... where is the shots, imagination? we can't even gain the zone and when we do and subban is on the left point waiting to unleash a bomb you have markov so far away from him in order to square up to give him that shot ( unless he is feeding him off his backhand it will never work on a consistent basis unless the shot is perfectly placed)
earlier it was stated how unstoppable the PP of years past was... why?? because
if you look at a stable point on the power play like I've been preaching for like forever on the PP for example (stability meaning the defenders stay on each of there points and refrain from erratic play on the blue line lefty feeding lefty or righty feeding righty).....
-markov on left feeding the one timer on the right point w/ left shot (play 1) this is a quick cross ice one timer not a stop caulk and shoot that were seeing from PK because its just not working
-defender takes away that point shot leaving space for the cross ice pass to patch for one timer from marky (option 2)
-markov can also go down low with a pass to gallagher who can jam the post or go cross crease to patch(option3)
-DD behind net can go to the boards back to patch for shot from the hash (option 5) or give and go down low (option6))
-dd up high to subban or find marky creeping up on the back door play. (options 7 and 8).
- cycling the puck on the PP is for chumps... we have an extra man on the ice and should gain zone and keep possession. find open players for ideal shots while having the goalie moving lateral so to open gaps in the net. this only works when you have your forwards skating through or standing in front of goal. but if the shots from the point are coming after per say PK stops the puck squares up and shoots its giving the PK'ers to much time to box out, block shots and the goalie to get into position. there is no problem with movement on the PP from the forwards. or the defenders sneaking up for the back door. but the players need to know that marky is the outlet on the point. the safety net that if the cycle starts you can swing the puck around the boards and his left stick is there on the boards to regroup and start over...
stability, structure and presence on the PP starts with the defenders on the point and its just not working long term over the last 2 seasons with PK and marky.... i believe the staff knows this but aren't willing to demote either quite yet from the 1st unit....
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holy freakin lol.... i send this previous message while listening to tsn 690 and just now chris nilan gets an update from jessica on practice today and she says how they split markov and subban on the PP today.. they put markov with beaulieau 1st unit... and subban gilbert 2nd unit..
no changes up front...
dd and plex forward lines with
markov beaulieau
subban gilbert
they are finally listening to what I've been saying all along. my guess is this split up is a pre emptive move to insert gonchar on the right side...
im predicting 2 power play goals against the bruins if this is stuck with throughout the game..........