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Saw the full play on that goal... man that toe drag
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16 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I liked Metro! Wasn’t he used on the PP, though, to the general rage of the fanbase? I forget if it was him or someone else. He had a cool name to boot.
Wasn't he like our leading pp points guy one season haha
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I always am blown away by how unbalanced the divisions are in the ahl
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26 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
While Monahan is having a slightly better season this year (4 more goals, one fewer assist), since 19/20 Lindholm has significantly out-performed Monahan ... that may have been in large part due to injuries, but GMs care about such things.
But lindholm is 4× the defensive player... without the injuries and with more offensive upside
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1 hour ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:
So now considering the Lindholm trade, and how expectations evolved from that deal 48 hours ago. How can this not feel underwhelming.
I think people are massively understating the difference between Lindholm and Monahan... they are not exactly close.
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14 hours ago, GHT120 said:
Except Gary doesn't pull the balls ... it is a lottery "hopper" supervised by Ernst & Young or some other such collection of suits ... but expect they "want" SJS, Anaheim or Chicago (the new Kane and Toews).
13 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
NOT suggesting this is happening but perhaps that hopper has many more Chicago balls than it should for example.
I wonder if the supervisor counts the balls as they go in to ensure that proper odds are represented?
13 hours ago, dlbalr said:As far I as can tell, I don't think he has. That'll change in the next 36 hours.
There are only 14 balls that go in the machine, numbered 1-14 and yes, they're carefully observed as they go in. The league actually has started posting the actual lottery draw, here's the 2022 one that Montreal won:
To clarify... I was very much speaking tongue in cheek.
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4 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:
We’ll, that’s one way to get him out of the lineup🙄
wifi must be thinking I get sent down with penalties 10% as bad as this, and some old washed up old guy could have cost us the game and he’ll be back in after serving his suspension.
having said that - I totally supported wifi being sent down. Just see Gallagher’s action as really selfish and dumb from a leader who where’s an “A”. He’s not adding anything offensively, the least that he can do is not take such a blatant idiotic penalty when we are finally up after a really pathetic losing streak.on the other hand, maybe it was an elbow to help the Celebrini lottery odds? The Sens are getting close, must not pick up any more points…
Come on we know that Gary is going to be pulling a sj ball out of that
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2 hours ago, Commandant said:
Case in point.... without googling who knows who our 5th round pick was in 2023?
Who knows what NCAA team he is playing for?
How much has he been discussed since the draft?
Counter point. Not that I have a dog in the fight but...
Who were the habs other two 4th round picks?
They've both been discussed.
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On 11/19/2023 at 6:26 PM, GHT120 said:
Such a trade I-M-O makes no sense for Montreal on its own, but ***could possibly*** be part of a Jake Allen deal ... Ceci ($3.25M) and Warren Foegele ($2.75) ... for ... Allen ($3.85M) and Kovacevic ($767K) ... Oilers save $1.383M ... which would allow them to replace Foegele ... I expect they would demote Pickard which would then provide enough cap space for them to add a 13th forward as well.
But the question is WHY would the Habs make the deal ... Oilers are gaining a proven NHL goalie and some minor cap flexibility ... while maybe taking a bit of a hit on defence as Ceci has been a regular 2nd pairing defender ... Habs would be taking on an extra year of Ceci (although he may well be tradeable if they so choose).
I expect HuGo would want at least a 1st and a prospect, maybe two ... perhaps Holloway and Reid Schaefer ... or maybe a 1st, a prospect and swapping some picks (e.g., the Habs 2024 3rd for the Oilers 2024 2nd).
BUT, if a deal could be reached, the $64,000 Question is whether Edmonton is on Allen's 7-team NTC, and if so would he waive it?
That's where my brain was going with it. Oilers are desperate and possibly a big haul could be made.
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Throwing something out there. No idea how it would work. If I was Edmonton I'd be interested in doing a move to add Kovacevic and ditch Ceci. Freeing up 2.5M and not really downgrading would be desirable.
Any thoughts??
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Anyone know if the shoulder Xhejak was holding after that hit was the same one he injured? (His left)
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3 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
The concern is - what if Woodcroft is part of the problem? Is it ONLY goaltending, or are there deeper issues of system, player fatigue with the coach’s message, etc.? If the latter, then you’re stuck with him and the team continues to spiral. (Not unlike the Habs firing Bergevin and then being forced to fire DD owing to the latter’s incompetence).
I'd say at least fire the goalie coach
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37 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
The thing about Jack Campbell is, the day he was signed, I heard a goaltending expert - I think it was Kevin Woodley - denounce this as a crazy signing based on Campbell's underlying advanced stats. And I was like, WTF? Who signs guys to long-term deals irrespective of their advanced stats in today's NHL?
Lo and behold, the guy is a boat anchor. There is no cure for stupidity.
Interesting thing about Holland, he has this long history of struggling to find G. First he foisted that POS Osgood on a powerhouse Wings team; fortunately for them, they were so good they could overcome very average netminding and still win some Cups. Then he went for the obvious, no-brainer glam signings (Joseph, who crapped out, and Hasek). Now he has floundered spectacularly in EDM. Weird.
While I agree that EDM's D is not top-shelf, it was good enough to make them an elite team last season, so I don't think that's the explanation. They changed their defensive system this year - to my mind, that, plus terrible G, is the likeliest explanation.
But there's no substitute for netminding. If you can't get the saves, your team is terrible by default. Look at the Canucks and the difference Demko has made - having a G who can stop the puck is a major factor moving them from outhouse to penthouse in one season.
I think we should be trying to get them to take Allen in return for a young FW, but the rumours I hear involve Binnington.
I can't believe Edmonton would trade for a 6M binnington. Guys a wacko. I feel they'd be better off doing Allen for cheaper.
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9 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Anyway, I seldom want former Habs to do well and he is no exception. He’s a marginal NHLer - Bergevin’s Folly.
There's a handful for me. Guys that didn't want to leave who get traded (Georges comes to mind) or guys who always worked hard but got traded for rebuild reasons (Lehkonen) I can cheer for.
Plus guys with major off ice things and then coming back is like a feel-good story (Drouin).
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2 hours ago, tomh009 said:
Coincidentally, Arpon Basu posted a story on The Athletic yesterday about playing with balance and how he wants all four lines to have a balanced attack (and defence). The second line is the one that’s struggling with this.
St. Louis said he remains confident in the line and is going to stick with it. And he refused to isolate Slafkovský from his linemates. The line needs to be better, and he will continue working on how it can get better. And once the line is playing more within the structure of how the team plays, and if Slafkovský continues to struggle at that point, then maybe the questions on his game will be more justified.
But for now, he is just one part of a more general problem with his more veteran linemates.
So, he is not about to change this.
I just keep hearing he wants to give Slaf more stability this season. Which makes sense I guess. He won't have to think as much about what his linemates might do and focus on himself?
I just wish he'd played another year abroad or in the ahl last year.
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10 hours ago, DON said:
I thought he would do well, for some reason.
I thought so too. I really thought he'd turn a corner after that mental health break + leaving Montreal. I guess either the mental health is still an issue or he should have worked on that earlier in his career.
Personally having battled anxiety and depression when i got it under control my productivity has spiked so high. I was hoping he'd experience that too, especially since his was so tied to sleep. Obviously everyone's situations there are different.
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8 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I’ve been mulling this over, and let me know if I am off-base…but I’m a little bit worried about the rebuild.
This team has been doing well, surprising teams, looking good. That’s great. But when I look at this group, what do I see? A team on which veterans like Allen, Monahan and Matheson are playing absolutely key, high-impact roles, and on which Old Man Pearson has been surprisingly important contributor. Of these only Matheson (age 29) may still be contributing 2-3 years from now, when presumably we’re meant to contend. Meanwhile, if you just isolate the young FW unit we have, we see two locks and a bunch of total question marks. Other than Slick Nick (#1A C) and Goal Caufield (absolutely elite) none of the young FWs have contributed much this season, and certainly none of them have shown any signs of becoming difference-makers in any discernable way. Dach may be a stud C, but injuries make him a massive question mark going forward; he cannot be counted on.
The D is unquestionably better. Lots of young talent to like there. But I’m having a lot of trouble seeing anything resembling the embryo of a Cup-calibre FW unit here.
I know, I know, we’re only 10 games in. But I’m not seeing enough from Newhook or Slaf to convince me that their ceilings are all that high. I have the uneasy feeling we blew our #1 overall pick; surely a really good prospect should be showing us something with some amount of regularity? And I don’t believe RHP or Ylonen are ever going to amount to anything.
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Suzuki’s 24…we’ve got 6 years until he’s 30. The window to become contenders cannot, therefore, be much more than another 2-3 years at most, IMHO. Remember, a contending team usually needs multiple seasons of being contenders before it punches through. So we probably don’t have all that much time to draft and develop new stud FWs within Suzuki’s window.
I think our rebuild really hinges on the dcore. If we have a top 3 d in the league and decent 1/2 centers in Dach/Suzuki... We can find some wingers in FA to fill slots outside of Caufield.
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10 hours ago, Commandant said:
On today's podcast they were saying that the Jackets were looking at Garland (a winger) and that they could try and move Roslovic (a centre) in return, but the Canucks want D.
so I don't know what is going on there.
Could be a culture thing? Roslovic has underperformed and has an attitude issue or something I vaguely remember.
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Any news on dach?
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1 hour ago, DON said:
NO all-Star forward on the roster or in system yet.
Suzuki, who was 70th best scorer in the NHL is best they got.
But, some of their PPs simply make my eyes bleed, just is so painful to watch same weak attempts over and over for several years now it seems.
Oh well, will help with high draft pick in 2024 i guess.
I think Suzuki and Caufield are creative enough and skilled enough to be a very good power play. Matheson may also be.
However after that.... We just don't have anyone else I'd truly call creative. Maybe Slafkovsky can get there or at least be strong enough to create space that way. Still down another creative guy.
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17 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
Since the preseason stats aren't usually publicized, here's a snapshot of them from the media site:
Those goalie stats are pretty wild.
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Sorry to jump in the middle of a discussion with a seperate point but..
Where do we think Gallagher is as a player now? On a mediocre team would he be a middle six? Exclusively a 3rd line guy? Or is he broken down to 4th line?
Obviously his likelihood of injury would make any team weary but would he be a league min, 2M, 3M? What is he at now?
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1 hour ago, dlbalr said:
Laval's training camp roster (for now):
Hjorth... haven't seen that name before!
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17 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
Per CapFriendly the Habs are $6,177,916 over the cap with 27 players ... so as many as 7 players could be "moved", having a minimal 20-man roster for the first game and then do the LTIR stuff "in-season" and fill-out the roster ... so I wouldn't say it is guaranteed that they have to LTIR before the season ... and that is without any as yet unexpected trades.
Yeah I think the issue there is that guys with bonuses being sent down is suboptimal for reasons @dlbalr understands 😛
Constructing the D corps
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I feel like Mailloux is the most likely to challenge for the rhd job and Barron will be traded. Mailloux was an ahl allstar and all.
Mailloux going up would leave the offensive spots open for Hutson in laval.