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16 hours ago, Habsfan said:
I completely agree with Cuke. The King Patrick trade was one of the worst deals in NHL history! The Subban for Weber deal is not good, but it's not a disaster like when they traded Roy!
I say Subban more over Gomez or Savard because I don't see McDo as a better player then Subban (maybe stats or whatever might say so, but not in my book) and '93 cup forgave A LOT for me when it comes to Chelios.
St Pat is still a sore spot and Subban just freshens the cut, as in my heart of fan, it slices exactly at the same exact location. With one exception: feels a little deeper this time yet it isn't; still through and through. :'(
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I would undo MB as a Mulligan
(edit) Player wise St Pat from years ago and if there is a statute of limitation then Subban
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6 hours ago, Link67 said:
I think it will look more like the Drouin situation, where the team very interested isn't willing to give up the big package for him unless he signs long term. We would agree to let them talk, if they come to an agreement, then we sign him to the contract with the terms they agreed to and make the deal.
I guess the Subban treatment is for Norris winning Dmen under MB, sry my bad
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I think he gets the Subban treatment... signed and then traded right before NMC kicks in. Might be best way to "max" return as well
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On 5/29/2018 at 1:08 PM, hab29RETIRED said:
I’d love to see this happen, but why would Carolina who is reportedly looking to shed salary take on a UFA, when they are also reportedly looking to dump Skinner?
to trade him a la Vanek and keep the rebuild going. Might be a strategy?
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Any thoughts on what it would take to get C. Coyle out of Minny? Would trading 2x2nd round and a prospect in Laval do it?
(edit) rumor on http://www.spectorshockey.net/2018/05/latest-hurricanes-and-wild-speculation-may-23-2018/ about how he may be avail
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Cali taxes are pretty high too
35 minutes ago, Metallica said:Pacioretty is going to want 8-10mil based on San Jose giving Kane 7mil, Plus the tax difference in Montreal. So its safe to say bye bye Pacioretty.
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1 hour ago, Commandant said:
On a different (but similar) note.
I hate the team, but I look at what Bill Belichick does every single year in New England and it works.
never trade up.
Trade down and get more picks whenever possible.
Statistically people overvalue the trade up. I already hear a ton of people saying we should trade 35 and 39 for a pick in the mid-twenties... thats dumb.
Accumulate picks... take more swings... the more second rounders you have, the better. We have 4... if two become top 6/top 4 players and two bust out, we are already ahead of the game.
There are a ton of centres and puck moving D in the second round. Guys who have real potential, but have one or two small flaws to work on. Take 4 of them... and figure out if a couple can fix that issue. There is very little statistical difference in players making the NHL and being impact players drafted at 25, or drafted at 30-40.... so keep the extra picks.
would you trade the 56 and ? in 2nd round for another in the 1st?
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http://www.tvasports.ca/2018/04/27/dominique-ducharme-se-joint-aux-canadiens
(edit) I only like Captn Kirk behind the bench last year. I know the team is better off now with the hire and mostly with the firings.
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22 hours ago, BCHabnut said:
I agree. No changes and no plan. I still think that the Hudon Lehkonen Scherbak Juulson players can be had via trade. If that's the case. This group has drafted and developed one impact player. Alex Galchenyuk. And that was two weeks after getting hired. Every good team in the league has some youngsters making an impact. If the Habs are to improve, their player development needs to be changed. Maybe scouting too.
I am all in line with changes to player development, I also have a strange feeling TT might be overstepped on picks at the draft by MB. He seemed to have free licence in later rounds but might not always get his 1st pick in early rounds. Just a feeling no proof of this but he is the one that picked our stars now on team (edit: and some other ones), right?
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1 hour ago, Commandant said:
Craig Ludwig
my bad
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1 hour ago, dlbalr said:
Mine wasn't either - I had to look up the list of sweater numbers.
I was going by memory and sweater #17 and I got as far back as B.Brunet and didn't he bust his toe shaving one morning or was that a made up taverne story?
(edit) i had forgotten G.Ludwig
I liked him 
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8 hours ago, dlbalr said:
Mitchell played 78 games last season and at least some of the games he missed were as scratches. That at least covers the healthy part... In terms of healthy and productive, that's a lot trickier. Rod Langway maybe in 80-81 (45 points in 80 games)?
I am in awe!! My brain was not able to go that far back
Habs29; thanks you for reminding me the Monster Leclair was in '93 run, those OT goals after OT goals (not all JL) What Memories!!!
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just a random question, does anyone remember last time we had a #17 that had a full, healthy and productive season? Seems to me that number is cursed
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I feel at the least SL has to go. Coach that can't get his team to get up and play a full season to make the playoffs on a regular basis and isn't developing players to get to the Show; (I think) isn't doing his job right as an AHL hockey team coach. Maybe he really is a brain surgeon but after his playing days he thought (ha! thought!) that coaching would be better?!?
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11 hours ago, Commandant said:
Laine isnt better than Matthews. Come on now. I know we hate the Leafs but Matthews is a stud number 1 c... who puts up just as many goals per game... is better in points per game.. and has the two way ability.
I will only can admit (maybe) Matthews is better but the way Laine wires the puck is Phenomenal!! I like A Lot!
And right about now I feel I have lost 'faith' in MB so I am just getting my subconscious ready for a head scratcher of a pick I think (a la Fisher)
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random thought... imho Laine is better then Mattews, the Peg killed it with that pick. Makes me wonder if the Habs had the 1st overall that year, given the massive Need for a #1c, would MB have picked Laine? Then again either of those two would give something to this Team that it ain't got right now.
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does anyone think a trade can be made for: (VGK) S.Theodore and a 1st Round Pick for MaxPac? Or is that unrealistic?
(edit) i guess not very good as still doesn't fix the (unicorn) #1C but will help D corp no?
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3 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:
Ottawa trading Karlsson is the end of Dorion. He's their franchise player. Their defence is bad with him. The backlash would be fierce and someone has to take the blame.
If it's Melnyk approved then it'll likely be for a very good defensive prospect and a lot of draft picks. Even if Karlsson is busted goods.
that is what I thought would happen to MB after he did "the trade" and backlash or not. MB still has a job, Team doesn't seem to be better and the D looks like a corpse. Maybe billionaire owners don't see winning like poor folk do, Idk
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on and off topic at the same time... PK is going to be on the Daily Show tonight
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20 hours ago, Davehab said:
Just came across this and thought you guys would get a kick. can't make this shit up
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20 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I'm certainly not saying the kid should be drawn and quartered. He made a mistake, and apparently the medal was returned to him.
However, I think people are confusing the nature of competitiveness, and implying that the Habs' current woes are a result of not having enough guys with an attitude like that.
Of all the great Montreal Canadiens, the only one I can think of who would have done something like that was Patrick Roy - the same guy who flipped the bird to the crowd and stomped off the team in a temper-tantrum that he has regretted ever since.
Bob Gainey, Ken Dryden, Larry Robinson, Maurice Richard, Henri Richard, Jean Beliveau - none of them would have done that. Wayne Gretzky, Bobby Orr, Mark Messier, Sidney Crosby - none of them would have done that either. For such players, a kind of internal discipline is part and parcel of what made them successful. The same is true of the best, championship-calibre players on the current team, i.e., Carey Price and Shea Weber. If you don't think those guys are intense competitors, then you're not paying attention. Heck, I don't think PK Subban, the other championship-calibre player the Habs have produced in the last decades, would act like that either. (The idea that he is a selfish punk has always been subliminal-racist nonsense.)
It is a false binary, then, to say that UNLESS you act like a childish baby when you lose, you are not a competitor.
No one is going to believe this, but I've read several articles over the years remarking that Pacioretty deeply wants to win and takes the responsibility for the team's losing on his own shoulders. That is part of the reason he is playing so badly now that the Habs have surrounded him with human garbage. It's killing him.
The Habs aren't losing because they lack character, let alone losing because they don't have enough childish babies who act out in public when they lose. They're losing because they suck.
Okay CC I can hear what you say yet I feel to say false binary is kinda strong.
I played a bit of hockey and I was welcomed to try other (urban) sports as a kid. I feel mostly because there is no way you would mistake me for any of the players you mentioned. I'm not saying I'm as good (or better) as any of them (my name isn't Lavar), just that on the bench or in play you could always hear me chirping (or deflating pucks a la Brady). I wasn't really falling in the mold quite right. I had a lot of nasty when we lost and sometimes when we won too.
Maybe that's why I think CP didn't do anything wrong by not waving to the crowd even if it was after a win. I like to see a bit more of that honest, raw emotions from athletes on my favorite team. Maybe it's selfish in a sense, I feel my team is more like me then.
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1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said:
I want the player who throws away the medal than the kids who are crying. i want the guy who is angry with losing, not the "boo hoo, boo hoo, i'm so sad and disappointed we lost".
I remember Chelios refusing to shake hands in the playoffs - that was also considered not classy. But i'd rather have that than the "Woe is Us/I'm so sad" crybaby.
Like Russell Westbrook with OKC thunder (I know NBA) but the way he was pissed at Kevin Durant for leaving and that mean face thing he does and the: "my only friend on the court is Mr. Spalding".... Man! put that on skates in a Habs uni PLZ!!!
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I agree as I said: in my heart of fan, it slices exactly in the same location. It misleadingly feels deeper.