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If what you're saying is true about Carbo's system why were they scoring goals and winning games and challenging Buffalo for top spot until Dec. 23? Koivu was on track for a great season goal wise and Higgins was continuing his great play and goal scoring from last year up until he was injured. I think the question is more what has happened to this team in the past 7 or 8 weeks? If we did in the second half of the season what we did in the first half we'd all be thinking that maybe this team had a chance of doing some real damage in the playoffs. Same players, same coach and same system. The key question is what has changed that they aren't doing what they did a mere few months back.
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So because this is a rumour which has some posibilities.... U can bet this means teams such as Ottawa or toronto or anyone will want him too Phily will have its time to pick. Hopefully Forsberg wants to come back to Quebec.
How much would we be willing to part with for the services of Forsberg for the playoffs?
RDS and comp.. were stating that Phily wants Young (promising Dman for 8 years) probably 2 dmen and one forward .... or One Komisarek and one prospect forward... Aint it too much for a rental? But it is Forsberg healthy or hurt he is still a franchise centre!
Idealy if they would take back Niinima and pick either Obyrne or Cote plus Murray
But realisticaly they want at least the likes of Cote and O'Byrne (spelling) plus a forward like Grabovsky or Lapierre
Cause Ottawa would deal some good prospects as well...
I would still Hope they could swallow a Niinima and (Cote or O'Byrne or Streit) plus Grabovsky or Perezhogin or a pick
Or one good Dman prospect; again (Cote, O'Byrne or Streit) and Bonk(UFA) plus a Murray or a pick
Why in the world would we give up great young prospects for someone who could be finished next month. Forsberg is at the end of his career, he is now very injury prone and with the problems he's had with his foot this year and the troubnle he has had just getting into games, who in their right mind would give a couple of prospects plus someone off our current team and a pick. No way Jose!
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When Jose Theodore was traded to Colorado for David Aebischer there were some comments made about how Montreal was supplying Colorado with goalies. If I remember, Patrick Roy said something like, Colorado won't have to draft goalies anymore, they can just get them from Montreal. Well the facts don't quite prove any of those comments true. Here are the midseason stats on both goalies. Theodore has played 6 more games than Aebischer, 22 compared to 16. Theodore's save % is .899 and his GAA is 3.10. Both of these statistics put Theo in the bottom 10% of the NHL's goalies. David Aebischer's save % is .907 and his GAA is 2.99. And the bottom line is that Aebischer is making a few million dollars per year less than Theo. According to some reports Theodore may now be on thin ice with Colorado. So did Bob Gainey make a good deal for Montreal when he exchanged goalies? Absolutely yes. If we wanted to trade Aebischer, he's very tradable. On the other hand, Theo's stats and salary will probably make him untradable. In addition we removed a huge salary cap hit in trading Theo which opened the door for other moves and players that could be added. So with the second half of the season still to come, we'll see how they end up. But I think the writings in the wall. Deal, or no deal?
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In talking about Carey Price's future it's been mentioned that goalies often take a little longer to develop than do some other postions. Justin Pogge, last years goalie from our Junior World Champions, was drafted by the Leafs, and he's having some struggles in the AHL right now. But I don't think that's surprising. There are very few players, other than perhaps some amazing exceptions we're seeing with Crosby and a few others, but generally, from Guy Lafleur to Joe Thornton, it takes a few years, either in the NHL or in the AHL for most junior players to make it. Chris Higgins is a good example of someone who wasn't rushed but spent a few years in the AHL and the result has has been that he's done great in the NHL. But I think Montreal's system right now couldn't be better for a Carey Price. First, there are lots of young guys in Hamilton hungry and wanting to make it to the NHL. That should be good for him to be in that atmosphere. Secondly, there will be no pressure on him to make the jump quickly. It appears the Canadiens are set for at least the next two or three years or more with four goalies who could step in and do the job. Huet, Abby, Halak and Danis. If Price is headed to the AHL next year, which seems to be the only choice, then right now it would appear that maybe one of either Abby or Danis would be traded, in order to make room for Price, without carrying 5 goalies. Thirdly, the Canadiens have one of the best goalie coaches in Melanson. So whether it takes Carey Price one, two or three years to develop, I think he'll have every opportunity to learn and grow with no great pressure. He certainly won't be rushed the way Fleury has been with Pittsburg. I think Price has a great future. Just let's not rush him too quickly.
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Ok, nobody's perfect. But if you look at some of the moves our habs's management team has made over the past few years, overall they've timed some moves pretty well, which I think is a key reason why our team is looking so much better this year. First, I think most of us agree that moving Theo out at that time and not waiting was a great move. He still had value so besides being able to unload a large salary, they even received value back in return. If they had of waited, they would have had trouble finding someone to take on Theo's salary and they would have continued to have, from what we've read, a not so positive influence in the room. Great timing. The word out of Colorado this morning is that Patrice Brisebois is on his way out We don't have to deal with that now, great move. Ribiero, we're told, was also not a great influence on the team, so we received something back in return and improved team chemistry. I think Claude Julian is a great human being and a good coach, but bringing in Guy Carboneau, and the way he was slowly inserted, not thrown in to sink or swim during a tough stretch last year, was up there with the decision to bring in Bob Gainey. Last week the word out the Habs room was that the atmosphere is now like a family. Holding on to Bonk and getting Mike Johnson, great moves. There's lots more but I think we're seeing evidence that while you can't avoid making some decisions that will come back to bite you, overall we've made some great moves at just the right time, that has resulted in a much improved team with a much better attitude, chemistry and future. There may even still be a few moves to come this year!
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Not a chance. I do not believe for one minute that Bob Gainey would pay Nedved over 2 million a year with what Nedved's done over the past two years. In 2004 he scored 19 goals total with the Rangers and Oilers. Last year he played in the Czech-Rep. and he scored 22 in a much weaker league. This year he has 0 goals. What upside does he have and why would you even want to pay a guy over 2 million with that sort of production over the past two years. Who would we want to remove from our lineup for this guy? It won't happen.
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Even though it's early and a few months from now things could be looking very different, it's interesting to see how these two goalies are doing so far. The Avalanche are struggling big time and Jose Theodore has one win, a goals-against average of 3.26 and a save percentage of .888. These numbers are not that different from the numbers Theodore put up with Montreal last year before he was traded. David Aebischer on the other hand, while he hasn't played as many games as Theodore this season, has a goals against average of 1.45 and a save percentage of .955%. Aebischer is younger and also earns, I believe about 1.9 million. Theodore is earning over 6 million per year. At this point in the season we are way ahead and the decision to trade Theodore for Aebischer, besides helping us with the salary cap, and if things continue the way this season has started, may also have given us a better goalie, both now and for the future. The Colorado Avalanche took a chance in trading for Jose and they may be discovering that their gamble is not turning out to be what they hoped for. In fairness, we'll have a much better picture of how this is truly turning out by January and certainly by the end of the season. But the early returns are looking very good for us.
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Good points Rev-G. Although losing Donald Brashear really didn't make much of a difference in the long haul.
Losing Brashear perhaps doesn't make a big difference today, but it did back then when a top enforcer who could score a few goals and skate made a pretty big difference in your team. It's why they had to go out and pick up a few different guys for that role in the following years. My problem with it all was that we lost Brashear and other players back then due mainly to the poor handling of players and different situations that arose. The bottom line, in my opinion? Poor leadership and management back then.
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I think the reason for the Habs turnaround in the past few years can be attributed to two keys moves. First when they brought in Pierre Boivin as President, and then his decision, along with Andre Savard unselfishly agreeing, to bring in Bob Gainey. These two moves were two of the absolute best moves the Habs could have made. No longer do we have to put up with bad decisions, losing good, or great, players because someone mishandled a situation [Patrick Roy, Donald Brashear, Mike Keane to name a few]. We now have a strong, stable organization from the top down and I think we are in great shape for many years to come. I wonder what would have happened if Ken Dryden had been allowed to bring in Bob Gainey to run the Leafs a year or two before the Habs signed Gainey? The Leafs could be a very different team today and who knows who might be running the Habs. To see many of our former players, who were successful, being welcomed back and used to pass on that tradition of winning is a great sign for any organization and the Habs have done that very well. I'm sure other teams are noticing what they've done and how successful they have become. Great leadership and vision will usually bring solid results and we're seeing that today with the Habs.
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I think one of the better additions the Habs made this summer was Mike Johnson. He is big, skates well, uses the body and last night against Philly made an incredible pass to set up Dandenault, and scored saturday night agaisnt the Leafs. A big improvement and it gives us a great third line.
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1) There still isn't a transfer agreement with Russia.
2) He's under contract with a Russian team.
I thought, as we saw with Malkin, that all a Russian player had to do was give two weeks written notice, even with a signed contract, and he was free to leave.
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I've seen Kosti on the PP.
I think sending Lats down to another year of junior would be a waste. I think he needs to be pushed and does better when he's playing at a higher level. The only advantage of going to junior would be to play at the World's. I think he would be better saying with the big club. I also think a trade might be looming for some non-producers who have to clear waivers in order to be sent down.
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The preseason may not mean much to this season, as we don't have the real team playing. What I am worried about is the future. This is the time for the young guys to impress and by and large, they are not doing it.
Clearly, there is no prospect making a case to make the team. If Lats gets in, it is not because he is awesome, but because he didn't suck as much as the rest of them.
I just hope they all show some pride tonight and put in some effort. Keep the penalties down (you hear that Rivet...) and display the skills that got them this far.
I would also like to see the Ribs/Kovy/Samsonov line start to gel, although i am guessing they have tonight off. That line could be the key to the season and they need to get into a groove together. Hopefully it will come together before the real season starts.
I am not too worried about the goalies (although I have my doubts about Huet), since goalies preseason means very little.
I'm starting to get a little concerned. With all the talk that Ribs must have heard I thought he would be working harder than anyone on the ice. From what I hear he's kind of gliding through games. I also thought Samsonov would want to show something for the fans and management. I'm also getting a little concerned about our AHL goalies. I thought they would have shown better stuff so far.
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This is my first posting on HW. I haven't heard much lately about Columbus trading Nikolai Zherdev, but I think he would be a great addition to Montreal . There had been a story that Toronto had offered Stajan and a draft choice for Zheredev, but on the Blue Jackets site their GM/President Doug McLean denied it. I read that Columbus was talking to an eastern team about a trade if they can't sign him. Do you think BG would pull the trigger on a deal for him. We'd probably have to give up a young guy and a draft pick or two good young guys.
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Here is one I hope is true, although there's not much strength behind it, just a rumour. It's a three way deal between Philly, San Jose and Montreal. San Jose gets Sourey and Forsberg; Philly gets two first round picks, one from Montreal and San Jose, and a Montreal goalie; and Montreal gets Marleau. The problem would probably be with San Jose, in that they're getting two players who would defintely help them, but they're both UFA's. From Montreal's view, I would take Marleau for a 1st round pick, Sourey and a goalie. Marleau would be the type of plaer we have needed for years.