titanfan
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Did I miss anyone? (Didn't include picks that were not first rounders).
In:
Dobson
Bolduc
Blais
Kahkonen
Clurman
Belzile
Out:
Heineman
Mailloux
Dvorak
Armia
Pezetta
Primeau
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8 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
The Habs got a known quantity, a top pairing RD who is still only 25 and gave up potential. I very much like the trade. You have to like how the Habs defense will look for years to come and if Reinbacher develops it will be awesome. I see Mailloux being a trade chip now.
I love the trade. Dobson makes our defence aming the best un the league. No question I make this trade every day. I was just saying we can compare actual players now, rather than imaginary draft picks.
And if you offered me Dobson for those 3 I'd say thank you every time.
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4 minutes ago, DON said:
So Habs could of added Carbonneau, Eklund or Aitcheson.
That is the true measuring stick - Heinemen, Eklund and Carbonneau for Dobson.
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4 minutes ago, Helmethead said:
What a sham of an announcement.
What exactly did you expect? Seriously, we knew the trade - they still got the VIP out, rather than have him be there and do nothing.
There are a lot more things wrong with this draft than the trade announcement.
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Struble, Mailloux and 1st in 2025
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Dobson and a 2nd
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Plan A is Tavares.
Then make a deal for Dobson
Finally add some grit - Cutter Gauthier maybe?
Dream - move up in the draft and take Desnoyer.
Misa would be amazing, of course, but the cost to move up that far would be ridiculous.
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11 hours ago, DON said:
He could easily be traded in the Summer, or next March. No hurry, is there?
Wise words. Take away the question mark and say the last sentence in your best Yoda voice.
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Truth is the Habs would be better off without Savard, Dvorak and Hoffman. They take up $12.45 million dollars in Cap Space...
For starters, we couldn't possibly be worse!!
Plus the money from the three contracts would give us a 'chance' to get pieces for the rebuild. None of those three should be part of the rebuild in my opinion. I lump them into the Gomez/Alzner conversation. Guys who did little or nothing to help them team - and actually hurt in a big way. At least in Gomez's case it helped the Habs sign other players who were assets...
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The biggest mistakes were the 'panic' signings of Savard and Dvorak.
The loss of Weber (to injury) and KK (to a Carolina vendetta) sucked, but Savard and Dvorak were terrible signings. Hoffman too, for that matter.
The GM who made those moves is gone and we are left with the baggage.
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4 hours ago, dlbalr said:
I used to think it was a foregone conclusion but I'm starting to see a scenario where he stays. I wouldn't say that's my prediction at this point but I don't think it's a crazy thought now.
The Habs need a rebuilding coach, one with a short shelf life as you suggested. Why can't that be Ducharme? He's not that far removed from being thought of as modern, forward-thinking coach to the point where he can't in theory change his ways. He talked recently about not having the players to play the style he wants to. If he sells Hughes/Gorton on a short-term vision to acquire certain players to let him play that style, perhaps that buys him some time. And as much as Molson wants to frame himself as wanting to spend what it takes to win (an assertion I think some if not many would disagree with), will a bunch of lost home revenue influence things on that end?
I think back to Jeff Blashill in Detroit who has seemingly been on the verge of being fired for half a decade. When they were overtly tanking, they just kept him there and now they show just enough improvement each year to justify keeping him around. There are enough parallels that I can at least see a scenario where Montreal goes a similar route with Ducharme. Play the youngsters more and if they're showing signs of improvement, keep him around.
In terms of who a rebuild coach would be in your scenario, Guy Boucher almost sounds like a logical choice. He instils structure and good defensive habits (and this team needs that) and will inevitably lose the room right around the time where they'd want to hire the coach to take them to that next level.
Great post
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Ducharme is expected to finish the season, but who will be behind the bench when the rebuild really starts this fall?
There are several possible candidates, and Gorton and Hughes will definitely want to find 'their coach'.
Obviously Ducharme is a candidate. But, given the team's struggles this season I am convinced the odds are slim he is back.
My number one choice is - Guy Boucher.
He has shown he can get a lot out of young players and teams. Although, honestly, his pro success has been short lived.
Assistant coach for the Rimouski Oceanic, and worked closely with Sidney Crosby during his two years in the QMJHL.
Went on to coach the Drummondville Voltigeurs and, in addition to taking that team from last overall to first overall in one season, he was instrumental in the development of Sean Couturier.
Becomes head coach in Hamilton and leads the Bulldogs to a 52–17–11 record.
Hired by Tampa Bay and took the Lightning to to game 7 of the Conference finals in his rookie year after the team missed the playoffs three consecutive years before.
Hired by Ottawa and took the Senators, who missed the playoffs the year before, to the Eastern Conference Final in his first season, losing in double overtime in game seven to the eventual Stanley Cup Champion Pittsburgh Penguins.
Both Tampa and Ottawa struggled their next year, but in both cases he took struggling teams to new heights by getting players to buy into his system. And in Tampa's case he set the table for Cooper and the success they enjoy today.
And granted, in Tampa that system was 1-3-1 which was pretty boring, but in Ottawa his system was much different as it had been in Drummondville.
What he does is take young teams and get them to elevate their game.
Is he a long-term solution in Montreal? History says no, but history also says he IS a great short term solution (at the very least) who could be instrumental in getting the team off to the right start next year. Getting this group to play together and buy in is the start to a rebuild. They won't win it all next year, but if the building blocks can be set in place - then the future has a chance.
And, oh yeah, he speaks French...
So Boucher is my choice.
Who is yours?
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Habs Win! Habs Win! Habs Win!
Lol Got a little excited.
Next time I might even watch the game...
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The NHL has become a joke. Video review (particularly the way the NHL does it) has left the door open for bias, which clearly allows for the fixing of games. I am not saying it happened, but perception is reality.
You can debate all you want about the two calls in overtime last night - but that is the point - you CAN DEBATE! Which means either call could have gone either way. That means someone other than the players determined the outcome. The minute that happens there is the 'appearance' of bias.
Team Tank is happy the calls went the way they did.
Habs fans looking for a good game are not.
Blackhawks fans are thrilled.
The 'appearance' of bias is something that sports MUST work every day to eliminate at all costs.
There are all kinds of laws in business that address the 'perception' or 'appearance' of things like bias, conflict of interest, etc.
Why the NHL feels it is ok to just put their hands in their pockets and whistle their way to the next rink is a mystery to me.
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Is something like this even allowed?
Price to Edmonton
1st and 2nd round pick to Montreal.
Habs retain 50% of Price's contract for this year and next. Oilers on the hook for 100% after that.
It gives the Oilers two years to win with Price and their current team (more or less) and two years to figure out how to get under the cap with the Price increase in year 3.....
Habs get two picks for Price and $10 million (and change) of cap room.
I'd do that in a heartbeat if I am Montreal. And Edmonton gets a chance to WIN NOW!
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reinstated....or about to be...
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and that's all she wrote...
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14 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
That's the way I believe it will happen. Skills will be most important. I don't think there are too many successful, experienced hockey people looking for work and if there were they likely would want a lot of autonomy. Gorton will look for a bright young person with some hockey experience that he can mentor. And someone with a similar vision.
Just a thought. Could Gorton mentor Paul Maurice enabling him to take the next step from coach to GM?
Granted I'm not sure Maurice even speaks French. Nor an\m I sure he is the best choice. But at some point you'd think that would be his next move - to become a GM somewhere.
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2 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said:
will the Habs win two games in a row in 2021? you know, like a winning streak:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Hockey_League_longest_winning_streaks
Nope. They have to play another game and...well...
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2 hours ago, tomh009 said:
Will this do?
Damn that's a great picture!
Post of the year!
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Just now, alfredoh2009 said:
Yes, he tried his darnest to torpedo t he system but DD prevailed
I came out really hard against Petry.
But...then I went back and watched the quote again - the entire interview.
I can't defend his play, he has been terrible! - but go watch the clip again - I don't think he is blasting the coach for not having a game plan - he is blasting his teammates for not following one.....
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10 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said:
Habs played their system tonight and won against the Flyers
Who would have thought that was even possible
Jeff Petry maybe?
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3 hours ago, Dalhabs said:
I think maybe it will be the new gm who will replace DD.
Now that is a situation where Patrick Roy might actually work.
Roy is GM and coach. His focus is on the players, so mainly a coach with a little more say.
Gorton is the real GM.
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1 hour ago, Commandant said:
DD has to go.
When Jeff Petry says he can't even figure out the structure of the team when he was watching from the press box, its clear that he's in over his head.
I'd say with a comment like that one of two things are going to happen. The coach is being fired, or Petry is gone. Not sure if he is begging to leave, but you don't undermine your coach like that in public. Absolutely unprofessional by Petry. Yes, it shows how messed up this team is but a veteran leader knows better than to call out his coach/team in public like that.
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1 minute ago, REV-G said:
I personally agree with staying away from the "older" retreads in Montreal. We've had Therrien twice, Julian twice and I think we need to do something different.
I have a name that some of you will probably cringe at but.....I would try Patrick Roy as coach, with no other power regarding players.
I would not want him as GM or assistant GM or any of those positions because I think with his personality he doesn't play well with others. But in a well defined role, coach and that's it, I think he would be, among french speaking coaches, my top choice right now. He'd bring pride, passion for the CH in Quebec, accountability, fire and drive. I think he has the hockey sense and understanding. When I look around, other than Vigneault, Patrick may be the best choice. He's not unproven but I see him as not as old in the tooth as V and some others who have been coaching in the NHL for many many years.
Completely agree BUT how do you get Patrick to agree to that and then keep his nose out of everything else...given his history...
It is one thing for the team to want that. It is another to expect Patrick to completely change his demeanor.
2025-26 Laval Rocket discussion thread
in Habs & Hockey Talk
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Is this the year Vincent Arseneau gets a cup of coffee? With a lot of d ahead of Arber on the depth chart, do the Habs decide to add some toughness to the 4th line? Even if only for a stretch?