
titanfan
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Is it even worth talking about Dion Phaneuf? Guys like him and Corey Perry will go for bargain basement prices now that they have been bought out - or will they?
Is there any scenario that we take a run at him with a 1 year contract for say $1 million?
EDIT: And of course he is a stop gap, not a long term solution. We have signed worse players to bigger deals... Karl (cough) Alzner. Ales Hemsky...
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On 6/17/2019 at 9:33 PM, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Edler is quality player but injury prone. He wants a 3-year deal and is 33 and his decline is under way. https://thehockeywriters.com/vancouver-canucks-edler-extension-careful/ The fact that even the d-starved, desperate Canucks won't sign him for that term should be a huge flashing red light. As much as we need LD I don't think I would touch him for that term unless it's at a cut rate.
Edler has re-signed with Vancouver.
Two years, 12 million
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41 minutes ago, Metallica said:
If Karlsson wants to come to Montreal, I would look at trading Petry. Other wise that's too much money on the back end. Trade Petry and add Karlsson and Gardiner.
and beg someone to take Alzner
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21 hours ago, DON said:
Take rose-coloured glasses off sir, Markov is toast and was slow the last time he suited up for Habs and is not any quicker several years later.
17-18 33pts
18-19 14pts
Not numbers that are encouraging. (as far as KHL goes: Darren Dietz was let go by Habs and had 53pts in KHL last year, but couldnt make NHL for 3 different NHL teams)
So, basically a slow old d-man trying to play in a quicker NHL, with little offense left in him I cant see being a fit in a rebuilding team.
No rose coloured glasses here. We have done worse with $1 million. If we tried it, and it didn't work - Then move on. If it did - it is worth the gamble.
We've paid more money for players NOT to play!
Three words that make a lot of sense on a message board like this: Optimism, Pessimism and Skepticism. Don't be blinded by any of the three.
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2 hours ago, DON said:
Why?
I have a real problem with discounting a player solely based on age. That includes being too young, or too old.
Am I interested in signing Larry Robinson for $10 million/year - of course not.
But Markov is just two years removed from playing in the NHL. There are plenty of great examples of defenceman who play past 40.
Yes, his numbers took a dip last year - but I have no idea how to compare the KHL realistically with the NHL. Seriously? All we really know is that he is still playing.
He is a left D - and we sure need those. His game management skills and leadership are exceptional. His ability to quarterback our (terrible) powerplay - is, at least, intriguing. And then there are the intangibles.
Do we have the cap room? Yes. Will he accept a deal at a reasonable price tag? Say $1.5 million? We should at least find out.
It would be irresponsible of team management to not at least take a look at this. And it is foolish for any of us to so dismiss the possibility so quickly.
Does it happen? Will it work? That we will have to wait and see. But again, we'd be foolish not to at least look into it.
And this has very little to do with sentimentality. Sure it is Markov, so it would be nice to have him back. But not as a token 'throwback'. However, if he can play - and help the team - ...
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16 hours ago, tomh009 said:
I trust that the Habs are not one of those three.
I hope they are
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42 minutes ago, Commandant said:
The world has changed. People want their sports faster and faster in 2019 than they did in 1987. The availability of thousands of tv channels, and information at your fingertips with the internet is changing the world.
It is interesting. I find it depends a bit on your perspective. I always find a game goes by way to fast when I am there to see it live. Watching on television - it always seems longer.
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18 hours ago, Commandant said:
Here is the thing. Last night's hand pass was obvious... and I want that reviewable cause I don't like that obviously wrong calls are allowed to stand, especially in key moments.
But we've been down this road. The offside challenge came cause Matt Duchene scored a ridiculous goal where he was 3 feet offside. They made the rule, and now the unintended consequence is that we have these stupid reviews for things that are a milimetre offside.
I think video review shouldn't be for every single little thing. It should only be clear and obvious errors by a ref. I don't want 4 minutes of stoppage to see if a guy's skate was a centimetre off the ice, 40 seconds before the goal was scored. But I don't want someone scoring a breakaway when they are three feet offside, or that clear hand pass last night.
Well said!
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13 hours ago, Link67 said:
If the extra cap we have been lumbering around for a couple years ends up being dumped on Karlsson, and we end up with a top pair of Karlsson and Weber, it would be well worth the wait, I would be grinning ear to ear for months, quite literally.
It would be like injecting steroids into this sorry excuse for a PP, it would take our speedy transition game to another level, it would be like adding a top 6 forward and a top 4 D in one fell swoop. Imo it is very unlikely, but if by some chance it were to manifest itself as reality, it would be nothing less than a home run, timid and cautionary actions be damned, you don't get a shot at an Erik Karlsson every summer. There are very few, if any, who see and play the game the way he does, no single acquisition within our grasp could bolster our D and help our forwards the way he could.
So forgive me if my stance is, if we have a chance in hell, you swing for the fences and try to get it done. Forget over thinking this, hesitating over his health, pondering his longevity, how he will do on his offside. There are some players that come around, you just have to throw caution to the wind and aggressively pursue, he is one of those players for many reasons. Our needs, going forward, to upgrade this roster align with what he brings to a roster, the pros and cons to this kind of signing would be like the stack of papers i signed when I bought my house vs the bill I got at Red Lobster the other night. I don't get the apprehension from anyone about going hard after Karlsson with our cap space, there could literally be no simpler, or worthwhile reason to use it in such a manner.
Well said!
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36 minutes ago, DON said:
You got an extra $11m/yr? The Habs dont.
Sure they do
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I won't be surprised if Montreal picks Raphael Lavoie of the Halifax Mooseheads.
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6 hours ago, DON said:
Why would Aves even consider that? Unless you mean for Aves own pick, not Sens.
Maybe Gallagher or Domi, Weal (worth nothing) and 2nd round pick (pretty insignificant when talking about drafting Hughes or the Finn kid) and nothing else back from Aves for Sens pick.
I meant their own pick. And Jorda Weale can be replaced by any of the 200 4th liners we have.
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Jonathan Drouin, Jordan Weale and 2nd round pick to Colorado.
In return 2019 first round pick, Shane Bowers and either Samuel Girard (skill) or Ryan Graves (size).
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and then there is Pittsburgh. Surprised no one is talking about it, even if it is the least likely route. If the Habs win both games, it doesn't matter how, and the Pens lose both games in regulation - the Habs are in.
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The 'Code' is the NHL's version of bullying, and it is allowed to exist. Very strange concept when you think about it in 2019. Then again, the NHL is all about 'Old School' politics. Don't celebrate too much, don't check a big player if you are a small one, don't do this and don't do that.
A lot of BS if you ask me.
Some on here (and other places) are calling Byron dumb for fighting, yet despite what Weegar says - he left Byron little choice. Truth is it happens all the time in the NHL, and I bet at least half the posters on this board would say something like - "the NHL is a man's league, Byron needs to man up". Weegar should be getting a 'severe' instigator suspension if the league were really serious about putting an end to this kind of thing. And Weegar himself admitted to being the instigator by 'asking' Byron to fight.
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1 hour ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:
And again, Weber was not on the ice for either of the goals vs the Hawks and he and Mete played fine. Obviously outside of his mis-hap at the blue line creating the 2 on 0 (some thing i haven't seen happen before
) which didnt result in a goal luckily!
4the thing that made the biggest impression on me from that play is how fast Weber got back on the play. He fell and was completely out of position, but was all the way back to break up the play in front of his own net. Didn't look old there at all. Looked like a player that lost an edge.....
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17 hours ago, DON said:
Just grinding your gears, but still wouldn't use 'destroy' to describe Kotkaniemi's icetime. Don't you think that is way overboard?
Destroy is a little overboard. But my point is, his management team have mismanaged so many players over the years and I don't want to see KK become another.
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6 hours ago, DON said:
Not sure who Bergeron is, but that guy is trying to destroy Kotkaniemi? I hadnt heard that, what is he doing to Kotkaniemi?
He's a nasty guy who works as a waiter at Dunns Smoked Meat. Used to be an NHL GM or something but couldn't find a decent centre for years so they finally put him out to pasture.
...spellcheck strikes again.... I fixed it. Thanks
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On 3/16/2019 at 10:50 PM, habscout said:
I somewhat agree; however I saw a few good shifts by Weal tonight.
You used the wrong word with "deserve". They outshot Chicago 2 to 1, but the Blackhawks had some key scoring chances, and obviously capitalized.
OK I had two nights sleep and have calmed down - a bit.
What frustrated me the most was depending on the players on the ice Saturday, we saw two VERY different teams. Yes, Crawford stood on his head but we had two lines that gave it everything they had - and two lines that floated. That may be simplifying things a little, but guys like Sahwa and Lehkonen gave it everything they had on Saturday - they just couldn't beat Crawford (or the post). If that pressure and intensity was kept up they would have eventually gotten one, or two...
Problem was they would get the Blackhawks on the ropes, and then Drouin would step on the ice and make a stupid (lazy) play and that was it. And Drouin wasn't the only one. But he was the worst.
What was Kulak doing on the PP in the third period?
And the fourth line was one of our strengths early this season - WHEN WE WERE WINNING - then we made changes and now it is a real problem.
And why is Julien disciplining players when we are in a dog fight for a win, for a playoff spot? Byron on the fourth line? KK on the bench? That is BAD COACHING. Especially in the third period, with the game, and the season on the line.
Finally, how many young players have we watched the Bergevin era destroy? Galchenyuk anyone? And now he is trying to do the same thing to KK. Wow!
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Thompson and Weale were also terrible. And I mean terrible. Bring back Hudon and Peca.
Sorry, I'm frustrated as hell. Habs deserved a better outcome. Problem is there are too many floaters. As good as the Habs were at time tonight, they were terrible at other times. Drouin really stood out for bad play tonight. Shaw and Lehkonen just had bad luck as they both worked hard. KK got hurt. Danault looked good. Domi and Gallagher were, well Domi and Gallagher.
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Crawford was amazing. Drouin is TERRIBLE!!!
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Fell ackwardly in the second period and never came back. Not that Bob Cole noticed.
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And where is Kotkaniemi?
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I notice that nobody mentioned Alexandre Daigle's 51 points as an 18-year-old rookie.....
Yeah, let's not go there....
Subban traded to Nashville
in Habs & Hockey Talk
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I wondered the same thing. Didn't bring it up here because of all the Subban haters. But you make some very valid points. We had the assets and the cap room to make it happen. Imagine having both Subban and Weber on the back end, with Petry and Mete - and of course Carey Price. With the ability to transition the puck to the other end of the ice quickly - our young, skilled forwards would have had more opportunity to create offence. But then what do I know... Time for the Subban haters to chime in...