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Posts posted by Colin
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I agree with your point (Montreal plummets further than any other team without their star player), but not the specifics ("Montreal is probably not in the playoff picture without Price.")
I think the Habs are on the playoff bubble fighting for a wildcard spot with Dustin Tokarski. Pick any legitimate #1 goalie, and they're still easily in the top three in their division. Montreal is better than we give them credit for.
(Note that right now, they are 2nd, but they've got the second-best winning percentage in the league. I think winning percentage tells a lot more about team strength than points. If you look at the top teams in the overall standings, the percentages are skewed by overtime loser points (irrelevant once the playoffs start) and a differential in games played (which will not exist when the season is over.) Nashville is 35-18 (.660) , Anaheim is 34-20 (.629), Tampa is 34-21 (.618), St. Louis is 34-19 (.642), Montreal is 34-18 (.654), Detroit is 31-21 (.596) New York Islanders are 34-19 (.642). Only Nashville has a better winning percentage than Montreal, but Montreal has a game in hand on them, too.)
I see your point and raise you with:
Have you watched Montreal play? How many times have they been outshot? While they aren't nearly as scrambly in their own zone as they used to be, they still get penned far too often. Look, I enjoy stats as they give a great general idea of what you're looking at. Stats, though, aren't the be-all and end-all. I mean, Montreal's CORSI is below 50% and every team around them in the standings in considerably above. If you want to enjoy a stat, then how about that one? What does it mean? Means someone is saving a lot more pucks than the Habs are shooting...
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Eller gets ripped because some fans overrate him because of a handful of playoff games while he's cold as ice for 75-85 games a year. His goal on Saturday was his first in fourteen games. DD would be run out on a rail with that production.
Um, wait...
DD *does* go through that kind of drought. He's still here. Still kicking!
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What would people think of a trade that centred around Tinordi for Yandle?
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Take one player off each team. Their most important. Which team plummets most? Montreal probably not in the playoff picture - all due respect to the skaters. They are not well enough coached as a unit to win without Price. Despite an abundance of talent, we scramble nightly in our own zone. Price is, IMHO, *easily* the league MVP. Shouldn't even be close.
Now, better question: imagine how good the Habs could be with a coach that preached a better defensive system?
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Ooooo. I join the game thread and the Habs start to collapse.
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That Mcquaid hit looked dirty. Patch had him beat and he stuck out the leg.
If it was anyone other than Patches, the leg would have been broken clean off. But since it was Wolverine, he finished his shift with nary a pause.
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McCarron and Scherbak. With Patches. If they become half the player... Perhaps finally figuring out how to draft big boys who don't play like Jason Ward?
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Is Emelin the new whipping boy here? Hahahaha
We finally have grit on the back end and people want to trade him for Mike Green? LOL And then after that would-be trade those same people would say we were too soft at the back.
Emelin isn't overpaid. And he's required. Unbelievable.
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Hey, they won a game. Think they're considering clearing the parade route again?
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1. If TO finishes in the bottom five they'll screw up with the pick. We all know that.
2. If TO does its usual and go on to finish on a high - just to miss the playoffs - I think they should change the timing of the parade route they like to plan every pre-season. This time they should have a parade on the day after the final day of the season to celebrate "Almost." I mean, if there was an award going to a team that consistently screwed up their future by winning at ALL the wrong times, TO would win hands down. Here's to #9 again!
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Is it bad that every time the Leafs lose another, I laugh for about five minutes? I'm starting to watch them more and more often so I can see how they manage to lose their next game.
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Plex had a quiet night. He didn't stand out. But wait, didn't get the typical Plex treatment of new wingers? Again? Still managed to score the winner. I dunno, I'm not really into moving Plex at all; I think he's too important to the team. DD, on the other hand...
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Maybe he should use some of the bills in those stacks to buy himself some better clothes. Nice hoodie, millionaire.
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I have now convinced my 7-year-old that any combination of the words "Toronto" "Maple" and "Leaf" constitutes cursing. He looks horrifyingly guilty when he says it, though admittedly does it just to get a reaction. I'm prepared to ban that colour of blue in this house as well. We're currently discussing the burning of all Leaf hockey cards (and a few Bruins as well), though he likes to play with them "as the losing team, daddy!" My nephew has a Maple Leaf tuque which he's not allowed to bring in the house. When he comes over, it must remain on the front step.
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I think TSN's examination of his coaching (in depth with Fenwick and Corsi) is fascinating. What it tells me is that those stats are heavily influenced by certain types of players when coached by someone like MacLean: Spezza was obviously a huge factor. One wonders if, here in Montreal, he'd find his number one centre and ride that player. And that makes me wonder if maybe MacLean is the kind of guy who would better bring Chucky to the next level. Not saying I'd like to see him as coach, though he's definitely a Montreal-style coach (firewagon hockey). I'm very interested to see where he does end up to see if he has the same kind of impact with players at his disposal.
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Awesome.
Oh. And not taking any chance with this one.
You win HW for the day. Close the site down until midnight please!
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So glad I turned in for the refs to make that call on Subban. Bush league riffing as usual.
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He needs to open a moustache grooming shop. Talk philosophy as he guides Montreal - or wherever he ends up - into a new, moustache ruled future.
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The problem, of course, is that hockey, while still 'culture' to Habs fans (franco or anglo), is merely a business to those in the sport. The language of business in North America, like it or not, is English. Would Montreal be able to attract top notch players if they insisted these players learned French? I'm sure more than a few would scoff. It's a sad reality, and one of the little things that, in my opinion, tarnishes a little of the glorious history of les habitants, but it unfortunately is the reality.
And that, HW friends, demonstrates the depths of my cynicism.
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Just a thought, but is the French thing with regards to the coach more a guideline when people are bitching? If we have a winning team that is clearly getting better and better every year, can MB go out and prise high calibre coach even if he speaks Swahili and makes the Habs better? Or does the Media still have a veto?
My guess is that the French population would prefer the Habs running for a Cup yearly over a French coach. Just saying. I'm of the impression that the French thing is a media construct because: selling papers.
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Next is Jean Beliveau?
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So PK rarely rushes the puck, does not pinch, stopped hitting. But he's playing the way they want him too.
Good Job
25-year old defender who is still learning. A lot. So they reign him in a little after a tough start to the season. And are slowly allowing to spool out as he makes better and better decisions. Just because one earns a huge contract and has a great season does not mean one knows it or nor that one is godly at his job. In a lot of respects, Subban is still raw. As he puts things together - and defenders take years to find all their tools and how they properly work together - we'll see all the Subban we want. And more.
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I'm just tuning in again after a while... Carbo? Really? If it's all the same, I could just get a bunch of chickens, chop off their heads, and let them run around the ice. That's a Carbo team. Including the bloody mess. And as for Therrien sitting out after Pit dumped him, where is Carbo again? He became coach for a Q team and... resigned? Carbo has a *lot* to learn. Not to say Therrien is all that, but Carbo?
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Does this question come up when we're winning six in a row? In other cities where hockey is less a "thing" does this question come up after a couple of losses? I don't get it, seriously. Is there some kind of need to drum up controversy and drama? You just have to think that, even if the Habs win 10 Cups in a row, someone will come out and point to the GM as deficient because we lost two consecutive games. All due respect, but this thread doesn't pass muster.
Seriously, with a little more luck and a less hot Enroth, the Habs beat Buffalo 7-3. Or so. And we're the cats meow again. If there was really a lack of leadership, we'd fold like a cheap tent when we got down. Ahhhh. That's where this comes from. Dave Hodge and his thumbs down to the Habs because when they lose, they lose big. Except the giant hole in Hodge's theory is that Montreal generally comes out with huge bounce back wins and long stretches of victories after a tough period. And Hodge is trying to sell hits. And keep his tenuous position as a respected journalist.
Feb. 8, Habs vs Bruins, 7:30 PM
in Habs & Hockey Talk
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Cuke goes all Plato on our asses!