kaos
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I wish I was Juulsen and a 1st.
Sergachev going to be a stud
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I think Bergevin did a remarkable job early on with this team, but I don't trust him to make another big trade or do what required to get this team to Stanley Cup finals in the next 2 years
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1 hour ago, Meller93 said:
Honestly why not offer sheet Draisatl for 9-9.8 mill a year, and immediately have him our 1st line centre if EDM didn't match? We lose 2 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd I believe. We sign a young, 20 year old who will almost certainly have more impact than those 4 picks. We could even try out Galchenyuk in the 2nd line role with easier minutes. Danault/Shaw/Flynn and Mitchell could take some of the hard minutes as well at centre.
Top 9 of:
Pacioretty - Draisaitl - Radulov
Lehkonen - Galchenyuk - Gallagher
Byron - Danault - Shaw
That's honestly a really good top 9 all of a sudden.
Defence:
Markov - Weber
Beaulieu - Petry
Jerabek - ?
We could optionally trade Beaulieu and keep Benn in the draft. I'm assuming Vegas would take Beaulieu if left exposed.
And how did you get rid of Plekanec $6M and Emelin $4.1M ?
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The #1 need for this team is scoring. They need to find it this summer. Galchenyuk and Radulov contract up this summer, Price contract done after this year, Pacioretty comes up in a couple years which boils down to this team window to win being this year and next due to increasing salaries.
This team was good this year, but not good enough to win it all, with the biggest problem being goals for.
So what's the point of continuing down this path if you can't find a way to bring in scoring help? Scoring doesn't exist on the farm, and it's not available at free agency. It's gonna have to be traded for.
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I think in an ideal situation for the Habs would be to have LV select Plekanec and free up $6 million. That'd give Montreal in the neighborhood of $27M in cap room with Galchenyuk $6M?, Beaulieu $2.5M?, Radulov possibly $6M? needing new deals. That leaves ~$12- $13M.
Depending on how Nesterov $1M plays, give him a new deal.
Now there's ~$12 M
Now the Markov spot needs to be filled and either a top 6 Centre or Left wing is required. Little unfair to ask Sergachev to fill that hole.
With Juulsen, Hudon, Scherbak, and with two 1st rounders and Five 2nd rounders over the next 2 drafts go find a solution.
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Dissapointing. Be interesting to hear Bergevin explanation
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Vrbata disappears come playoff time.
Vanek now a Panther. 3rd seems very reasonable
What's Bergevin working on?
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Ott and Shaw are guys you need for the playoffs. They'll make it easier for softer guys like Galchenyuk, Plekanec and Pacioretty. McCarron will learn alot from them.
My guess is Bergevin adds another 2nd borderline 3rd liner to round out forwards. Someone like Vanek, although Bergevin could have grabbed him with Ott
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Canadiens have traded for Jordin Benn for Pateryn and 4th round pick
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Maybe they'll be original and bring a coach back for a 3rd tour and re-hire Therrien
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It's a start. Guess that means no trade this week?
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This organization better not ing trade Sergachev under any circumstances. If they do so Bergevin and Therrien can save their jobs, I'll give up on this organization. It'll be the 3rd strike...Roy/Leclair/Sergachev.
I consider the Subban/Weber a foul tip
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Keep Galchenyuk.
Use Juulsen, one 1st Rounder either this year or next, one or 2 of the extra 2nds over the next few years, and maybe McCarron or Scherbak and go after a talented forward.
Van Riemsdyke, Duchene, Landeskog or one of the Tampa forwards.
Galchenyuk needs to play with top 6 players or his talent is wasted. Montreal requires another top 6 individual to win a cup
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Anybody who has played sports at a competitive level, especially hockey with the contact, knows eventually something pisses you off and you say or do something stupid.
I have done and have been on the receiving end of slashes, buttends, spears, punches, verbal insults of all sorts. It happens in the heat of the moment and very rarely is it ever truly meant by the person saying it, after you've cooled off.
Some guys chirp more than others. Shaw seems to be one of those guys. From his interviews he doesn't come off as an unintelligent asshole. He genuinely seems sorry for his stupid remark.
We expect these guys to be wound up and going full tilt, then they make a mistake and everyone wants to hang then. It's not fair, humans make mistakes.
Shaw is a required piece of a Stanley Cup Contender and I'd take him over some of the other no shows like Plekanec, Desharnais etc.
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Hannah will end up going for a 2nd Rounder (the new currency for rentals) or a lower prospect.
Arizona is asking big early cause.....hey why not?
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14 hours ago, Scott462 said:
Hope Chucky is ok and it's nothing serious.
Out indefinitley.
Evaluated by team doctors Wednesday in Montreal.
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Pacioretty and pieces to Islanders for John Tavares.
Pacioretty a 30 goal scorer with team friendly contract $4.5 Million that runs through 2018/19 season
John Tavares Franchise Centre on Team friendly $5.5 million contract. Has partial NTC. UFA after 2017/18 season
What does Montreal have to throw in to get the deal done? Assuming Islanders and Tavares would consider it.
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46-26-6-4 102 Pts
2nd place behind Tampa Bay
7th Overall in NHL
253 goals
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Playing with Toews and Hossa I would have produced as wellQuenneville was playing Shaw on the top line in the playoffs last season. And he produced. That'll be going through their heads with it.
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Boston traded away the best player in Joe Thornton and still won a stanley cup after doing so.In truth, you can see MB's moves this summer as directed to two goals: one, make the team tougher; two, improve the PP.
And I'll grant that his moves make sense when seen through this narrow lens. The flaw in the argument is that these goals could have been achieved without trading a franchise defenceman for a worse overall defenceman. E.g., the PP objective could have been realized by replacing Therrien, whose teams for some reason have a terrible history of PP performance, or possibly even just allowing Muller to do what he said he was so excited to do, i.e., work with a PP that included Subban. It's worth recalling here that Subban's goal-scoring performance was quite aberrant last season and he almost certainly would have returned to career norms.
Your argument here basically hinges on the claim that the Habs' trading a better overall player for a worse overall player makes the Habs a better team. It's a version of the 'intangibles' argument. And heck, anything is possible; and certainly the drop-off from Subban to Weber is not so massive that the Habs will suffer too much in the first couple of years of the deal, except (I suspect) against super-fast teams like Pittsburgh and TB. (The Habs will have to get past those teams to make the Finals, though, which should worry us). However, the default position in assessing trades has always been that the team that gets the best player wins the deal. By that measure, the Habs lost the deal. The response of the commentariat reflects this straightforward common sense. More seriously, the trade will look worse and worse with every passing year IMHO.
Dallas got Seguin from Boston and clearly won that trade but has not been able to win a cup.
Whether Subban or Weber is the better defenseman/who's I their prime or declining is not going to be the deciding factor in Montreal winning a Stanley Cup.
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Scherbak should be well back of McCarron.
2017-18 lineup could be?
in Habs & Hockey Talk
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Pacioretty Danault Radulov
Drouin Galchenyuk Gallagher
Lehkonen Plekanec Byron
Carr Mitchell Martinesen
Beaulieu Weber
Markov Petry
Emelin Benn/Davidson Jerabek
Problem is Habs brass says Galchenyuk ain't no centerman.