Meller93
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5 hours ago, DON said:
2018 1st pick not panning out or no room for him?
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=210202
Seems 'should' be RH d-men available , one way or other before season starts
https://theathletic.com/3558218/2022/09/01/canadiens-defenceman-barrie-stralman-price/
"Waivers
The preseason waiver wire is a good place for the Canadiens to find potential solutions.
In San Jose, if Ryan Merkley makes the team, veteran Markus Nutivaara might find himself on waivers.
Nicolas Meloche, who played 50 games with San Jose last season, might also fall victim to a numbers game in Calgary.
The Pittsburgh Penguins have a ton of options on the right side. If Chad Ruhwedel were to find himself on waivers at the end of training camp..."
I think lunqvist is a case of lack of room and also adjusting to the NA game, not failing as a prospect entirely. Let’s not forget he turned 22 just a few days ago, so at 21, he was approaching .5 ppg in his rookie AHL season.
I think he has the potential to be a 40 point puck mover in a couple years
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With Nils Lunqvist asking for a trade, we should target him. Young right handed D man with a focus on offence is exactly what we need.
what we’d have to give up I’m unsure
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4 minutes ago, Sir_Boagalott said:
I'm thinking that Gorton will call his old 1st over all pick and get Hughes to sign Kessel. Then Hughes will flip MonaHabs in a sign a trade deal with NYI for Romy, a 1st (or Beauvillier), and possibly 1 of their goalies. Theres been numerous rumours of NYI wanting to move him and the Habs being interested in him.
Huh? By Romy do you mean Romanov? I’m very confused on what you mean, because the way I’m reading it seems insanely unlikely
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6 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
The full draft pick scenarios if you're interested:
Here are the conditions associated with the first-round selection acquired by Montreal:
1. In the event Calgary's own 2024 first (1st) round choice is selection 20-32 (inclusive) (following the determination of the 2024 NHL Draft lottery results), then Montreal shall have the option, exercisable until 48 hours prior to the start of the 2024 NHL draft, to exchange the conditional 2025 or 2026 first round choice to become Calgary's own 2024 first (1st) round choice); or,
If Florida's 2025 First (1st) Round Choice Transfers to Calgary (pursuant to the conditions on an earlier trade)
2. In the event the conditions to trigger Montreal's option as noted in #1 above does not occur, or Montreal declines to exercise this option, the following conditions shall prevail:
- A) If both Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice and Florida's 2025 first (1st) round choice (previously acquired by Calgary) are not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), then Montreal shall receive the earlier of the two (2) stated choices; or,
- B) If Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is a top-10 selection and Florida's 2025 first round selection (previously acquired by Calgary) is outside of the top-10 selections (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Florida's 2025 first (1st) round choice).
If Florida's 2025 First Round Choice DOES NOT Transfer to Calgary (pursuant to the conditions on an earlier trade)
3. In the event the conditions to trigger Montreal's option as noted in #1 above does not occur, or Montreal declines to exercise this option, the following conditions shall prevail:
A. If Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice, and additionally,
- 1) If Florida's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results); and,
- 2) Florida's 2025 first (1st) round choice has been transferred to another NHL Club; and,
- 3) Florida's 2025 first round draft position is better than Calgary's 2025 first round draft position; then Calgary will transfer their own 2025 fourth round choice to Montreal.
B. If Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is a top-10 selection (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Calgary's 2025 first (1st) round choice, subject to the following condition below:
- 1) In the event Calgary's 2025 first (1st) round choice is the first (1st) selection overall in the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Calgary will retain its own 2025 first (1st) round choice and Montreal shall instead receive Calgary's own 2025 third (3rd) round choice and a conditional 2026 first (1st) round choice. Montreal shall receive the better of Calgary's 2026 first (1st) round choice or Florida's 2026 first (1st) round choice (following the determination of the 2026 NHL Draft lottery results) (previously conditionally acquired by Calgary).
Woah that’s a ton of conditions. No wonder it took so long.
I’d prefer to use it to draft in 2023 rather than 2024 (at the earliest if MTL is able to opt for it)
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Rumblings from sources like Engels that a first could be involved
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38 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
The Czechs pulled off the upset, didn't see that coming. They'll play Canada in the semis while it's Sweden/Finland in the other matchup.
Sounds like the US could have used some offence, if only a player like Lane Hutson was available 🙃
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I understand the risk of multiple inexperienced hires, but I’m happy with whoever MSL goes with. If he got his guy, and believes he’ll be the best fit I’m ok and here’s why:
MSL seems to be a new iteration of coaching that I’ve been wanting for a long time i.e, a coach who doesn’t bend his players into his system, but bends his system around his players.
In order to get the most out of your roster, you have to play off their strengths. It’s been too long that I’ve seen people stifled under strict systems that simply don’t fit the player. Put a Lamborghini in a rally car race and it probably gets stuck. Doesn’t mean it’s a bad vehicle, just gotta put it on the right track.
Inherently, I believe this style of coaching is more adaptive/resilient to challenges.
so despite the inexperience, the people in place are tailor-made to adapt and figure it out. On top of this, it’s a player development friendly style.
I’m happy not to have another old boys club coach-fossil resurrected for the 10th time.
But of course, I concede there’s a ton of risk because we don’t have much indication of just how good Robidas is at coaching
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14 hours ago, Commandant said:
Yes now that i know he has 5 years, thats fine.
I just wouldnt walk him up to his last year.
Is your train of thought that 2 years is enough assessment time, and then the next long-term contract could come in a little cheaper (and expire when he’s still younger)
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5 hours ago, Commandant said:
He has 4 years of RFA left.
So Habs would be better served with a 3 year show me contract.
on the other hand, could a guy like Dach take a discount if you signed him for 4 years taking him to UFA? I don’t see it being likely but it’s an interesting thought
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On 7/13/2022 at 11:03 PM, Sir_Boagalott said:
Hmm, I thought he was 6'4"? Thats too bad.
I highly doubt that he'll be 240 lbs. He is only 18 but like others pros have stated he has a mans body so he doesnt need to gain 10+ lbs. Also, he's clearly worked out quite a bit and is not a hard gainer so he's likely already gained close to as much as he can. Plus, he is a hockey player and not a body builder. At his current size gaining 10 lbs more of muscle wont help him play hockey better.
My bet is he’s close to 6’4, and so likely will be listed as 6’4 in a few years time with a tiny bit more growth.
also, wouldn’t surprise me to see 240 if he’s already 227. Ovechkin has always played at 240 and he was pretty good
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12 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said:
You can’t compare decisions made based on during the first 7 months under Covid, or later on. At the start, everyone was locked down. Issue was other areas opened up, and Canada didn’t. So you can’t really compare what anyone dealt with during the 6-9 months of Covid, to the later half of 2021 or 2022.
im not someone who vehemently opposed the truckers blockade and the other shit that went on in Ottawa, but I can see why an American would rather go home where restrictions were lifted.
Also
Edit: quoted the wrong person
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1 hour ago, Neech said:
I'm not a fan of this attitude. He was hardly a baby - off ice and family reasons conspired for him to want out; before that he was a very good player for us who consistently outperformed expectations. I'll remember him streaking down the ice scoring OT winners, and of course turning undead during our finals run.
I agree, my memories of Petry will be fond for sure. He continuously outperformed my expectations, and truly he blossomed with the Habs!
that said, the rumblings of Petry’s (and prices too) wives pushing some ‘extreme’ political views just seems like a distraction to me.
love Petry the player, and he seemed like a good guy, but I think we dodged a bullet before the whole politics aspect manifested some toxicity.
all in all, thanks Petry for your time as a hab! Decent trade, and ended on a fine enough note
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Kind of like this, definitely not upset on first blush
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7 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
Not certain how Slafkovsky is eerily similar to JP ... other than both being tall.
Both big European wingers who played in Liiga with ok to good (JP better) production for draft eligible guys. Shined in international competition which boosted their stock drastically. Skate well especially for big guys. Both have great hands and good puck protections skills.
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7 hours ago, DON said:
I know bit in jest; but, why do we do this with so many prospects?
Is not likely he will be a star let alone top 4, is crazy high expectation for a very small d-man.
If all the stars align he may be a solid top 4 d-man, but an All-Star selection seems just a fan dream.
Hope you are right, but he has couple years to show how he stacks up vs NCAA/AHL forwards first. Dont think anyone needs to worry about his offense ...a Markov replacement on the PP would be sweet though.
I agree we have to watch out getting too high on prospects, but I am actually particularly high on Hutson. I just think he has “it”.
when I watch him it reminds me of how I felt seeing Subban and the world juniors.
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He’s going to be an actual star, calling it now.
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What the deal with rem pitlick not being qualified? Is it a situation where his QO is more than what he’ll cost UFA?
I was expecting him back
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12 minutes ago, DON said:
Kinda hope Hutson is simply a NHL rookie in 3 years and no big expectations. Unless he lights up the NCAA i suppose.
Beck also couple (3?) years away at least and i would guess lower offense, maybe 10g-20a, as he likely will be in a defensive forward role (Danault replacement?).
Mesar am curious how he will do as an OHL rookie.
Yea, I’m not saying I expect a ton out of them the first few years, but having guys on cheap deals allows the space for vets during a nice run
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On 7/9/2022 at 4:33 PM, dlbalr said:
I've been penning a Rangers piece for PHR for the last little bit and it's hammering home the fact that they need a cheap 2C and it's probably going to have to come through a trade. If Montreal plans to move Dvorak (he has been speculated as a trade candidate even before the Dach deal), that feels like a logical landing spot. I haven't thought this one through too much but a trade like this seems like it might be palatable for both sides.
To NYR
C Christian Dvorak (three years, $4.45M)
To MTL
D Nils Lundkvist (two years, $925K - ELC)
D Patrik Nemeth (two years, $2.5M) - assuming MTL isn't on his no-trade list
Lundkvist is a 2018 late first-rounder who just had his first season in North America and still needs a bit more time in the minors before being NHL-ready. He's a right-shot player which is the need in Montreal's system with Wideman serving as a placeholder for the time being. Nemeth is in there to match money a bit. Hughes suggested he might want to add an LD following the Romanov trade and Nemeth could hold that short-term placeholder role and actually would complement Wideman's lack of defence relatively well on the third pairing. Of course, this offer assumes that Montreal think Lundkvist still has second-pairing potential; if not, obviously this isn't an offer they'd want to do. They gave up a first and a second to get him, used him for a year, and get a first (Lundkvist) back and might be able to flip Nemeth in 2023-24 for something small.
Montreal goes with Suzuki/Dach/Evans/Poehling down the middle which isn't great but Evans and Poehling are the oldest of the bunch. If you want to give the youngsters a longer look, this is one way to do it.
Dvorak costs almost the same amount that Ryan Strome did on his set-to-expire deal so it doesn't drastically change New York's cap structure. With three years left, it also gives them a bit of stability in that slot which helps knowing that Lafreniere, Chytil, and Miller are all up for deals a year from now. Even if this specific move doesn't work, Dvorak feels like the type of centre they'd be after.
Great proposal, fills needs of both teams. The RD is one of the weaker spots in our (fairly strong) system
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Beck strikes me as a player we’re going to love, even though he might only score 15-20 goals and 35-40 points. Sort of like how Lehkonen was for us.
Him, Mesar and Hutson could be perfectly timed to be that cheap entry level youth when the Habs try to win a cup in 3 years.
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A lot of it stems from failed development of guys like KK in the past, but I’m so nervous for both Slaf and Dach next season.
If these guys don’t prove to be bonafide too 6ers (in short order) it’ll be a disaster for the future.
im rooting for both, even though I’m not confident in either
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4 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
Thanks. The more I investigate Owen Beck the more I really like the pick.
Same, I never dove into him deeply because the point totals didn't impress me. But the more I read the more I like him
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7 minutes ago, DON said:
Yup, i like first 4 picks for sure....the other 7, not sure.
Instant impression on Rohrer is I really like him, especially at 75. Then we're just getting really late in the draft and who knows what will happen.
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Overall feels like we had a very solid draft though eh?
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Could ylonen work? Montreal doesn’t have space for Ylonen, NYR doesn’t have space for lunqvist. Now I think Lunqvist has the higher upside, but could they values be argued to be similar?