Meller93
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4 minutes ago, tomh009 said:
I know. I was making the comparison assuming he would be putting on some additional muscle in the next year or two, as most rookies tend to do.
The real question was, does the height really make as much difference in a player's ability to play D as the weight and the strength does?
Francis Bouillon had a long career at 5’8 and nearly 200. My Dad always just called him “cube” 😂
id say strength/weight is more important for both forwards and defence, but height certainly has its advantages. Stick reach as was mentioned, and perhaps a little better shot blocking.
That said, I don’t expect Hutson to ever have the same stature as Cube. Seems to be fairly slight. Gonna need him to grow a little if he’s to teach his potential at the NHL level
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10 minutes ago, tomh009 said:
At the draft, yes.
But if the player has a given set of skills, does it really make a huge difference in his ability to play D whether he's 5'10/180 or 5'8/180? Potentially that's an inch or so of reach, but other than that?
Honestly, I think half the value would be in perception alone, even if it didn’t make a massive tangible difference
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17 minutes ago, huzer said:
Not saying it’ll happen, but I was a late growth spurt. I went from 5’10” to 6’4” after my 18th birthday. Granted, I was never an NHL prospect either, so there’s that.Tall fella! I’m only 5’8 myself (but I don’t trust my chances at a late growth spurt at 28 😂)
would be very interesting to see Hutson’s value skyrocket if he shot up to the 5’10 mark
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57 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Hutson's rankings are all over the place. If he was 5'10 he'd be a first rounder, but a 5'8" defenceman? He could fall further than we expect.
Have you heard the rumour that he had his bone-age tested and it suggests he has a good bit of growing left?
If he has a late growth spurt he could end up at 5’10 or even 5’11 anyway.
I'm personally a fan of this type of home run swing
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1 hour ago, DON said:
All seem to agree he should be a pretty good NHL d-man.
But, this Mintyukov seems as intriguing, as does a 61pts in 65gms Korchinski, for what Habs are lacking in the system anyways, top pairing offensive d-men.
Just seem are lots of tantalizing targets to pick from, if trading up into top 1/2 of 1st round.
Or simply wait and take a Lane Hutson or Ty Nelson in 2nd round?
I don’t think Hutson would fall to our late picks, but he could fall to the 40’s.
if we could pick up a 40’s pick in a Petry deal I think that could be great value
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1 hour ago, DON said:
Not disagreeing; but he was basically hired "recently" and seems a lot early to be thinking this...yet.
Isnt this more likely to happen at the draft, for fan effect and Bettman to say "WE HAVE A TRADE TO ANNOUNCE!"?
Like Pick #9 to Canucks for Schneider was, to NJ when draft was in NJ.
Vicious booing then “WE HAVE A TRADE TO ANNOUNCE”, followed by a raucous cheer always makes me chuckle 😂
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7 hours ago, DON said:
4 of his top 5 didnt play in CHL prospects game.
Brad Lambert, RW, Pelicans-Liiga
Denton Mateychuk, LHD, Moose Jaw-WHL
Ryan Healey, RHD, Sioux Falls-USHL
Calle Odelius, LHD, Djurgarden-Sweden Jr.
Michael Fisher, RHD, St. Mark’s-US High School
Commandant on his skating;
"Skating
Wright’s skating has seemed to get better as the OHL season has gone on. In testing at the CHL Top Prospects Game, Wright was amongst the top five prospects in most of the skating tests. He has a very good first step and his acceleration is top-notch. He also has very good top-end speed. Wright can change speeds to push the pace on the rush, or he can control the puck and slow things down. His ability to change speeds allows him to fool defenders in one-on-one situations. He also has the lateral agility to get around defenders, both with and without the puck. Wright shows good balance and has been able to fight through hooks, holds and other extra attention that he receives at the junior level. There is room to add muscle to his frame though, so he can be even better in future years."
Yea a lot of strong skaters in Europe or USHL. My only point was Mateychuk was his #3, while Wright didn’t even make the list despite finishing higher overall in skating then Mateychuk at the skills comp.
I also love Mateychuk for the record!
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I wouldn’t mind seeing
1 Wright
26 Howard
33 Hutson
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6 minutes ago, DON said:
I doubt he wrote it for this reason, but who knows?
Yea I don’t think many are purposefully contrarian besides for cheap writers who aren’t necessarily worried about their reputation.
however, I can’t help but feel a subconscious underrating of Wright’s overall skills
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8 hours ago, DON said:
https://theathletic.com/3359533/2022/06/16/2022-nhl-draft-skill-ranking/
Pronman catagories top 3:
Best skaters
Brad Lambert, RW, Pelicans-Liiga
Denton Mateychuk, LHD, Moose Jaw-WHL
Ryan Healey, RHD, Sioux Falls-USHL
Best puck skills
Logan Cooley, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL
Danila Yurov, RW, Magnitogorsk-KHL
Isaac Howard, LW, U.S. NTDP-USHL
Best hockey sense
Lane Hutson, LHD, U.S. NTDP-USHL
Shane Wright, C, Kingston-OHL
Logan Cooley, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL
Most physically dominant players
Jack Sparkes, RHD, St. Michael’s-OJHL
Maveric Lamoureux, RHD, Drummondville-QMJHL
Kirill Dolzhenkov, RW, CSKA-MHL
Best shots
Jonathan Lekkerimaki, RW, Djurgarden-SHL
Ivan Miroshnichenko, LW, Avangard-VHL
Cutter Gauthier, C/LW, U.S. NTDP-USHL
It’s strange to me they don’t have Wright listed at all for top skaters, when he outperformed the #2 guy Mateychuk at the CHL skills comp.
I guess it’s perceived he isn’t a great skater because he didn’t demonstrate his explosivity in game.
His skating is probably underrated
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1 hour ago, TurdBurglar said:
Unless you get Drouin in return, right?
*cries in Sergachev*
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Well, at least Vegas will have some cap space mid season to make a trade deadline deal for a solid vet like say.. Dadonov 😂
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How? I need details 😂
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46 minutes ago, ehjay said:
ya forgot Putin 
#thanksobama
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25 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Yeah i think that's his ceiling. He's got some work to do to get there.
I'm not that impressed with him or with Xhekaj, even with the Bulldogs doing well.
They are both complimentary players on that team. Xhekaj as an overager isnt really dominating, so I think he's going to have an AHL enforcer ceiling.
Mysak isn't dominating either as a 19 year old. He's been really inconsistent over the course of the year.
Yea as his stage you want to see really impressive numbers if you’re going to be a top 6er in the NHL. I agree bottom 6 would look like his ceiling right now.
xhekaj would have to become a dominant physical presence AND improve his overall game to ever make the NHL I’d say.
let’s go nhl draft 2022, time to restock
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What’s Mysak looking like He projects to be?
bottom 6 with some offensive upside?
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4 hours ago, DON said:
These edgelords not having Wright at the top 🙄
Sometimes I wonder if they just do it for clicks. I understand there isn’t as clear of a #1 this year, but imo there isn’t much to deliberate. I have a pretty strong conviction the Habs will take Wright.
Hearing rumbles the Habs could great aggressive at the draft with the rest of their picks. Hope HuGo and the scouts are dialed in on a few gems and in 5 years it looks like the McDonaugh/Pacioretty/Subban draft
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5 hours ago, dlbalr said:
Exactly. I'm in the camp that has Wright closer to that 70-point range on average but that's still a very key NHL player, especially if the two-way game comes along as expected. Suzuki's signed for eight years and Wright will be under control for seven. Even if you wind up with two '1B' guys, that's still better than a lot of teams have long term and would more or less solve the dearth of impact centres in this organization that has basically gone on longer than this message board has (a little over 19 years). That's still a strong outcome.
Yes to be more clear, I actually see Wright as more of a 70 point guy as well, but I just don’t think that’s his absolute ceiling.
I’d be very happy with a 70 point 2 way center. I just find the discussion surrounding his ceiling very strange, and almost biased against him.
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13 hours ago, Commandant said:
I disagree entirely.
Wright has the highest ceiling.
A ceiling of a 95-100 point centre with selke level defence (ceiling, not necessarily likely to be reached) is the highest ceiling in the draft.
There’s been this weird level of undervaluing Wright’s potential just cause it doesn’t seem as high as high 15 year old season showed. People went from him being the next 120 point guy, to now people like Pronman almost seeming to suggest his ceiling is around 70 points. There’s almost this “oh he’s a solid second line centre” vibe with some people.
The one positive is expectations on him will be more tempered. Hopefully it all lights a fire under him and he proves everyone wrong.
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1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said:
Nice chart, I've highlighted the Habs picks and were thrading the extra first and second picks would put them:
14 (WPG)
15 (VAN)
16 (BUF)
17 (NSH)
Buffalo and Nashville may want a quantity of picks and may trade their 1st. But is is very unlikely from what a lay person like me may be able to guess.
DAL, LAK, WSH, PIT, ANA are next and those picks are getting close to the Habs pick to justify a trade for the Habs.
Pittsburgh is an interesting option since their prospect pool is so shallow. Maybe they’d be interested in restocking.
21 for 26/62/65 IF someone we love is there.
we’d select 1st, 21st, and 33rd
Same idea with the capitals
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22 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said:
I respect your opinion on Nurse, but disagree he is worth his contract. $6m-$7m maybe, but there isn’t a single aspect of his game that is elite. His contract suggests he has multiple aspects of his game that is elite.
Capfriendly lists 10 defencemen being paid over $9m a season. Karlsson, Doughty, Werenski, Fox, McAvoy, Jones, Nurse, Josi, Hamilton and Makar. Jones and Nurse are easily the 2 worse on that list and Jones has been regarded as one of the worse contracts in the NHL.
Sometimes it's the whole package that makes a player elite, even if they dont have 1 elite traits. Nurse is a rare blend of physicality and offense. Few players post the amount of Hits, blocks, shots and points like him.
These are guys like Trouba, Weegar, Seider, and Letang. There aren't many like him and I consider them elite at what they do. -
Obviously a rough guide, but this suggests we go package 26+33 and get up to 17 or even 16. Could be worth it if you really like someone who slipped there.
Or could you keep 26, and package 33, 62 (EDM) and 65 to move up to select back to back 25/26?
Would be pretty crazy to have 3 1sts
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2 hours ago, Commandant said:
She's been a rumoured hire since pretty much the day that Gorton got the job. And she is a good hire at that.
Clutch hire 🤭
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1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said:
Never know. I think the habs took Kostitsyn 10th in one of the deepest draft ever, and he was supposed to have slid to to health concerns (epilepsy??)
Oh it wouldn't shock me for a second if a GM loved Mateychuk and he went near that 10 range. Also wouldn't shock me to see him fall around the 20 area. Fairly unpredictable draft IMO
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Would be interesting to see what Hutson’s wingspan is