Meller93
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I wonder if the devils will be trying to trade down if they don’t need #2, even if it’s swapping with Arizona who would probably be fans of Cooley.
What if a three way deal exists where Arizona moves up to 2, and MTL trades for 3, drafting Nemec (my personal #3 pick)
As a base, this trade would look like
NJD would net Petry and Chychrun, giving up 2nd OA and a prospect like Mukamadulin
Arizona nets 2nd OA and Mukamadulin, Calgary’s first rounder (from MTL) and a second round pick from MTL. They give up Chychrun and the 3rd OA.
Montreal nets the 3rd OA pick. Give up Petry, Calgary’s pick, and a second round pick.
Now tell me where where it’s completely ridiculous hahah. Regardless of my evaluations likely being off, could something like this with tweaks be within reason?
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17 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Shane wright #51... will be the Habs first overall pick in Montreal, 51 years after they took Guy Lafleur (#10) 1st overall...due to a lottery won on May 10th (5.10)
Woah, Nostradamus probably prophesied this
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2 hours ago, BCHabnut said:
Holy crap. That's crazy. So is Wright the consensus? Can't help but feel pessimistic. I'm hoping hes better than nuge or hirchier.
Probably too early to completely judge Hischier. Could be 70-80 point guy next season.
But imo he’s a notch ahead of Nuge (who’s a great player). I’m big on Wright personally
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SHANE WRIGHT IS A HAB
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55 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
Interesting to read these lists, it seems the top 5 are pretty consistent but after that they seems to be all over the place. For example this guy has Denton Mateychuk at 26, on some lists I have seen him top 12. What the Habs do with Calgary's pick (go Stars) and their own 2nd will be very interesting.
https://thehockeywriters.com/2022-nhl-draft-rankings-may-baracchini/
I’m all for trading up to take Mateychuk if he starts slipping.
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As a side note, the funny thing is I’m starting to think Suzuki is one of his closest comparables.
Both have been criticized as “lazy” at times, but I think it’s more about being opportunistic, and studying the game/reading the play. Like Suzuki, both are competent-above average in their raw tools, but nothing in particular is elite. The one thing they both have is their brain.
we hold Suzuki in very high esteem, and I think Wright will be very similar.
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59 minutes ago, DON said:
Wright seems pretty safe bet to be 3rd line NHL centre, at worst. I assume is more likely he will suit up in NHL earlier than Cooley will, due to size and moreso the OHL vs NCAA route.
That’s the thing though, the bar is very low for Wright if the thought is a safe bet for 3rd line Center.
I think he may take an extra year due to losing 2020-2021, but my personal conviction is that he’ll be a top line C in 3-4 years. Could be wrong, hope I’m not!
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I may be one of few, but I get this feeling Shane Wright is going to prove a lot of people wrong. I don’t think he’s going to light it up quickly, but I have this conviction his hockey IQ is going to take him places and he’ll be an integral top line Center. To me he looks like a student of the game. I hope the Hans get him and I hope he really pans out
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1 hour ago, DON said:
Marner-lite perhaps.
Seems smart, shifty playmaker.
Marner is who comes to my mind, i would suggest watch one of the 5-10minute montage/compilation of his highlights on youtube.
https://thehockeywriters.com/logan-cooley-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/
one of many profiles of him.
Interesting though, they mention his two way game a lot there. All that talent + responsible sounds like a damn good player.
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Who are some good comparable for Cooley?
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5 hours ago, illWill said:
I agree, and in this order. IMO they are best players available and it is just a bonus that they all play positions that we need.
100%, these happen to be my top 3 as well. People are fawning over slaf, but he scares me the most of every top 10 ranked player. I wish him a great career but I wonder if it’s hype over size olympics.
If we fall to 3, I’m super happy with Nemec. I feel like we’ve been missing a d man like him since the General himself. Even Subban wasn’t the general. (Markov for those who don’t get the reference)
Wright Cooley Nemec. Very happy with either outcome
so the real question now becomes who with our 2nd first round? If we don’t take Nemec, I want to trade up for mateychuk
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18 minutes ago, Commandant said:
You can win 2 years in a row.
You cant win 3 times in 5 years.
Ohh ok got it. That said I’d rather the Habs just improve and push for playoffs next year.
Who would you say are your 1 2 & 3?
and if we fall to 3, are there some players you want to avoid?
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So what’s the deal with winning the lotto two years in a row now? If we get 1st OA this year is it impossible next year?
It we win 1 OA this year, can we still get 2 OA next year? All the talk is on Bedard, but let’s not forget Michkov next year either.
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Nico Hischier looks highly comparable to Wright at the moment, points wise, positionally, and draft age
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3 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
It's our misfortune that there seem to be no franchise players in this year's crop. However, some of those "comparables" do tend to get the drool machine going. Cooley seems almost more exciting than Wright, in a way.
I wonder if we’d have a different perception of Wright if covid hadn’t been right in the middle of some key years of development.
Could he actually just take an extra year or so, but has a little more potential than the consensus right now?
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This means when watching the draft lotto, if we see a team 16-12 has moved up, this is great news for us
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3 hours ago, Commandant said:
Teams can only move up 10 spots. So a win by teams 12-16 means last place picks first overall.
Therefore the odds of picking first overall if you are last cause is 25.5%
Its 18.5 + 2.5% (12th place win) + 20 (13th win) + 1.5 + 0.5 + 0.5
So its 25.5%
Essentially the odds of picking 1st OA is higher than the odds of winning the lottery. Very nice !
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26 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Magic number is 2
Correct me if I’m wrong, but we just have to lose ONE more in regulation to lock up the best lotto odds
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Kessel makes it 5-3 on an empty netter 👀 1 left to go
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We have a good goal! 4-3 zona!
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Don’t be offside don’t be offside don’t be offside 🤞
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If we don’t pull off Shane Wright, there is still a really solid group in the next 5-6 picks.
walking away with Cooley or Kemell could add offensive flair up front. Slavfosky and Geekie and two big bodies with skill, and Nemec/Jiricek could be too pairing d men.
Beyond Wright, my personal favourites are probably Cooley, Nemec then Kemell
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This feels like a critical draft in the future of the habs. Far more so than the average one.
With an already strong group of young players/prospects in the system, hitting big on 2-3 players could transform us into a powerhouse in a few years time.
If Suzuki, Caufield, Barron, Guhle, Romanov, a few other hands like Ylonen, Mailloux, Josh Roy, or Emil Heineman can hit their stride while Wright/Cooley and another couple 2022 prospects are on their entry levels, we could be very very strong
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13 hours ago, Commandant said:
This is a top 15 D+1 season for a QMJHL player. ... not this year, but top 15 in the draft era
How much do you think he’ll benefit from another year in junior? I wouldn’t say he’s ready for the NHL but it feels like a bigger challenge could benefit him
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