HABBER-oooooKNOWS
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Token positive GO HABS GO!!!!!!!
Just for the record I've been nailing my beer caps into the garbage without effort. That usually translates into victory!!!!!
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Can we be negative in this thread?
WE SUCK
I feel better now. Go Habs.
I'm laughing too. Look
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law of averages says the Habs are due for a win in Buffalo. Habs win 5-3 is my guess
It's going to be a blow out tonight.
7-1 Montreal
Higgins-2
Koivu
Patches
Markov
Laraque-with his first
Metro-with his first
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IT's looking like we've buried ourselves into quite a deep hole the past few months. Time to start digging out of it, I hope the boys have their work boots on. It's looking like the rest of the season will be MUST WIN games. Great. Well, I guess we'll see the best out of the boys because there will be no excuse for not showing up. Let the truth be told.
GO HABS GO!!!
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Everyones points are good. I guess I'm bummed because we've been so junky lately and the anticipation for this day is so great that well........... what a big let down.
I'm content. I don't know who could have helped us really, as far as the names that actually moved go. I just hope we break out of looking so house league on the ice so I can be excited again.
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Where I disagree with Bob is on point three, above. We should have moved heaven and earth to get Jokinen, and not just for help this season, but for the future of the organization, which continues to have zero elite centremen in the system. I guarantee you this summer that Gainey will again be on the lookout for a 'big, elite centreman' - when in fact we had the chance to acquire one today, and weren't willing to make the cap room or part with the assets. I'll grant that we don't know what Phoenix would have wanted from us, but - without pretending expertise on the guys Calgary gave up - I can't believe that we couldn't have matched their offer.
That's the one thing that I believe will haunt us.
If we are just looking at stats we'll make Lombardi = Higgins. Would you give up Higgins and a first round pick?
Let's assume we had no competition but Calgary. What would you have offered to win that trade? or better yet, Would you trade Calgary straight up Higgins for Lombardi?
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Jezus Christ!! Every team in the east that the habs are battling with got better today except for the habs!! The Rangers, teh Bruins, the Flyers!
Every year seems to be a bust for the habs at the Trade deadline!
I don't know if all those teams got better. They made moves that's about it. We made moves, just not today. I agree with fanpuck, wait till Tangs gets going again. We can still surprise !!!!!
If Price gets hot we'll be o.k.
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I'm guessing that Gainey is going with the team we have and hope that they can get confident and play to their full potential for at least a little while this season.
If there is a full potential to be reached now is as good a time as any to reach it. GO HABS GO!!!!!!
I suppose it's safe to assume if we don't, this team will officially be blown up this summer. My only fear is that spots will be hard to fill with the amount of players that don't want to come here.
Boy oh Boy. I don't blame Gainey. His hands are tide, I just wish he was a little riskier. I would have loved to see a surprise Vinny deal but oh well. At least we have one more saga to look forward to this summer.
Personally if Tampa wants Markov and Pleks I say go for it.
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Morris to the Rangers. Where are they getting cap room from?
I was just going to ask the same question. Do they have the room? @ any of you cap specialists
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Recchi to the Bruins :puke:
Recchi is tired. He is a great tool to have in your back pocket but I'm not sure if he hurts you as much as he helps at this point.
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Not much news going on concerning us so I thought I'd come and put in a positive affirmation.
We are the Habs, We are good enough, we are smart enough and gosh darn people like us.
Please BoB, don't let our 100th birthday go down with no action today. We need HELP!!!!!!!!
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Let the overpaying begin! (Not you Bob)
Not saying this deal's an overpayment by either team....but I'm sure there will be at least 1 today
Pascal will shut the door in Montreal. I think Ottawa got screwed here. Oh well no skin off our.........
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I'm pretty sure Dumont said he doesn't want to play in Mtl when he was a FA a bit back. I remember distinctly wanting to sign him, and him coming out with that.
I'm re-doing my guess, Carle next after Dandy
That's exactly what I thought, but once I mentioned it and got bombed with the complete opposite. Apparently he wanted to come to Montreal but Bob didn't want to sign him. I don't know, not really sure.
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I hope that is not true. Dream trade Higgins, Dandy, Carle and a 2010 first for Joki.
No way on the first.
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I checked out the scores tonight and everyone that should be losing is winning.
I thought it might be time for our annual POSITIVE ONLY comments. No complaining and dogging the boys here. If you feel you must please use another thread.
WELCOME BACK PRICE! Let's move up in the standings and no looking back the cup is ours this year!!!!!!!!!!
If Price is going to shut the door as we all hope he can and will, Halak getting sick is probably the best way for this to go down. Good Luck Carey, we need ya!!!!!!!
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Satan is in the line up tonight. How can that be if he was waived?
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Hey guys,
I want to be traded too, just putting it out there.
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How would you guys compare Komi and Kuba?
Reason I ask,, apparently Kuba thinks he's giving the Sens a hometown discount at 4 mil a year.
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There is nothing stopping Gainey from engaging in contract negotiations with the key UFAs right now, except Gainey himself.
He has last year and most of this year as stats for the discussion. He knows who he wants. Engaging in the discussion will tell him who he won't be getting (either they want way too much, or tell him they plan on going UFA).
So even if he doesn't sign some of them, he may know that he won't be retaining the guy and therefore, he can trade him at the deadline.
This is why most GMs are having discussions with key guys right now and in many cases signing extension. Gainey has to get over this self imposed rule around negotiating mid year. If you are going to do that, then you are forced to choose between signing early at the risk of over paying, or leaving it too late and getting nothing.
So while some sign his praises for waiting, don't be upset if he loses many of these guys and ends up paying even more to entice replacement players in the summer. Why do you think Hammer is so over paid? Clearly, we need to keep quality players by signing extensions and get quality guys via trades. Signing top prospects during the summer hasn't worked in years and we end up over paying for 2nd tier UFAs.
There is no way I believe Gainey hasn't at least started talking with the guys agents he wants to keep. I'm not sure who he has opened conversations with but I know for a fact he has told all parties involved "not a word outside these doors"
The only proof I have of this is during the whole Vinny episode. He told the media straight up "We don't talk about who's involved in trade rumors because then the players don't know " He's a straight shooter and I think most people involved understand and respect that.
See what I'm getting at here? At least Komi and respect to Koivu he has to have started some talk. Gainey isn't a fool right?
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Halak is still sick, and Price starts in Buffalo. Tanguay still not ready, maybe Friday.
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I say Komi deserves no more than 4 mil. Look around at some of the D in the league and what they're making. Mike Green will be making 5.25 mil next year, Shea Weber at 4.5mil and Kaberle at 4.25mil. If Komi expects to make that much money he's out of his mind. Defensive defenseman don't get the big bucks. Maybe if he put up some more offensive numbers I can see shelling out the money for him.
I think Bob knows what he is doing here. These players have a job regardless so you can't really say they are playing under uncertainty of having a job. It may not be with the habs but they'll have a job and be making good money too. This is the year that they should be proving they deserve the money.
That's where fans may have screwed the team up. Komi will have better seasons then this one but all the hoopla around him as a crushing machine plus his ballot stuffing voted in butt as an all star will drive his price up quite a bit. If Bob wants to keep him he'll need to shell out more then 4 mil guaranteed. Any less he will go somewhere else and get it in a heartbeat.
He would be missed big time.
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Man, I'm surprised there aren't more rumors flying around. What's going on with Guerin?
Who knows, even Ek is quiet. This must mean it will explode on Wednesday. GM's are learning a new system I bet to avoid the INTERNET gossip. We've become worse then the joe shmo reporter. Gainey is busy I'm sure but on lock down because of the fragile Habs and Vinny crap from a few weeks ago.
Vinny to Montreal, I'll bet my brothers. Maybe that's why Gainey isn't negotiating right now he might need the room........huh???????????? How do you like that bedtime story ForumGhost?
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yeah, not after the season they had this year... see my point?
As far as Komi is concerned, he will get more on the open market,regardless of the year he's having, for sure and it sucks that Bob will let him explore the idea of leaving the Habs by waiting until April/June to start talking to him. It may be too late already.
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Some guys are concerned about their careers, but why would Gainey think that's a bad thing? Last year Pittsburgh had tons of free agents on their roster and they got to the Finals. You can't say it works one way and then turn around and say it does the opposite.
I don't know why people are thinking that guys like Plekanec or Komisarek are worth less as a result of this year than they were before the season began, either. Look at what Ryder got after a much worse year than either of those two are having. I still have Plekanec's next deal at around $4.5m and Komi's at $5m. I have Higgins down a little bit from $4m, but my guestimate at $3.5m I'm sure there are teams out there that would go higher.
I think you have Pleks and Higgins a little high. Your numbers represent what we want them to be and not who they are. Wow, Plex at 4.5. If that's what he will cost us I say move him quick. Not worth it. Mind you I love him, but I would think he needs a few more years of consistency to bring in that much dough. I might give him 3mil and a bit. Higgins should stay where he is. Komi, I will agree with.
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Good arguments by everyone, I suppose. Since Gainey said a few months back the best thing he did in his years in Montreal was hire Carbo then I'm going to believe Gainey, that is not the problem. I wish Gainey would coach again actually.
For now I'm accepting our fate on this 100th anniversary. The team will be blown up and look completely different next year..........and guess what Carbo will still be here.
You guys are right though, should he be fired now....HE WILL re-surface somewhere and you'll all cry how Gainey was stupid to let him go.
Funny how all former Habs do well when they leave, and then blow chunks when they have a chance to come back. From Gainey to Theo, Ribs and Carbo himself add to that pretty much everyone in-between.
Maybe the problem is Montreal? A city where the pressure is really high and one with money can live like a rockstar. Where everything is magnified down to the cells that make up a players body. My bets are there. While it's the best place to be when winning, it's the worst when losing.
Can't say the players or the coach function at their best in that city, that's for sure. A losing streak in Montreal probably takes years off these guys lives let alone confidence vs desire.