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Komisarek the Cruncher

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  1. Those salaries are actually the amount they will receive for real in $, but the hit against the cap for a team is the average of the total salary over the lenght of the contract.

    This is to avoid paying a guy 1M$ for a year and 6M$ another so that a team can boost a elite club for one year.

    Most sites don't reflect the cap hit but the actual salary per the contract for that given year. Take TSN for example, the salaries they have are not a teams payroll for the cap , but how much a team will actually pay in terms of $.

  2. Luongo is worth the world. I would have given Keenan Zednik Bulis and Komisarek for Luongo. As for Tanguay, we always need talented offensive players, the kind that could score like that last game against Carolina. Can anyone see the importance of a Cory Stillman, Cup winner with Tampa and Carolina???

    Im glad your impressed about a player that has played in high school in the USA. Im not

    Yes Luongo is gold, but very expensive gold. Most importantly, you can come up with any trade scenario in your mind, we did not have what he took to get Luongo, unless we unloaded 5 of our top prospects.

    We didn't have a Bertuzzi to offer, which is what Keenan was looking for. You completely lissed my point in my post. No way was Luongo coming here, NEVER.

    As for Tanguay, yes we need offense and yes I like the guy, a lot, but like any good GM, I'm honest with my team needs and a winger is not what we need. We need a center to replace Ribs.

    As for Fischer, I'm not impressed by a player that played in highschool, I'm impressed by what all reports and experts say about the kid and the way he appeared on interview. I'm glad he's not like Kessel who looks stoned permanently.

    Your right that trade sucked. How bout Aebischer, Zednik and Souray for Luongo?? We could do that trade with Vancouver.

    Not even close. Maybe that would get us is equipment? Just kidding, Keenan wanted an impact player in return, not 3 average folks. Same for Vancouver.

    Packaging a dozen average guys doesn't bring in a star player. You get value with value, not quantity.

  3. Reality is that the same qualities were mentionned back in the days when we drafted Hainsey or Wilkie. Reality is that only a minority of prospects ever reach those high expectations everyone -- medias, scouts, fans -- places on them.

    There's loads of D-men who were better and much more hyped than Fischer that got picked in the last 10 years. Phillips, Zyuzin, Jackman, Brewer, Mara, Stuart, Klesla, Komisarek, Hamuis, Bouwmeester, Pitkanen, Eminger, Coburn, Phaneuf, Seabrook, Barker. Those are the big names taken early. Very few of them are even close to be considered best in the NHL.

    In the most realistic expectations, I'd be extremely happy if Fischer pans out into a serviceable 2nd pair puck-moving D-man who can do the job in his zone too like, say a more defensive Tom Poti. And I expect it'll take him about 4-5 years before becoming a full-fledge regular, a couple years more before being solid. Anything better than that would be a big bonus.

    BTW, saying Fischer will for from 185 to 220 is very optimistic. That's 35 lbs of muscle you're talking about here. I doubt that much weight gain would come without a mobility/speed sacrifice. I'd expect him to settle at around 200/210 lbs, giving him a frame like Ryan Whitney (Pittsburgh).

    Sounds like that's the technique Bobby Clarke used this time around. Didn't even knew the name of the guy they were drafting! (Giroux)

    And once again, you just posted a bunch of stuff I already knew. I know my hockey and the reality of it very well. My first post was quite explicite with the "could" become....I don't like being corrected for something that was already said in my post.

    As for Hainsey, never was it mentionned that he had determination, motivation and leadership skills, on the contrary, he was lacking these things. Not the same at all. Don't remember what they were saying about Wilkie. All that I know is, it's not the same recruting staff selecting this time and I have much more confidence in this staff. Like I said, all #1 picks so far look promising.

    Also, a top D in the league was not to imply best in the NHL, I mean a top 30 maybe, a #1 by team, or something similar, maybe top 20.

    As for the weigth, 220 or 210, who cares, the point is that he will get much bigger. As for the frame, he's still 18 and I have seen guys bulk up a lot with small frames. At 6,4", reaching 200 is a strict minimum no matter what the frame is, that's the reality of anatomy. Funny you mention Whitney, is 6,4" 205 and will get a little bigger with years, like all man do. As for mobility, if you work out in a smart way and maintain the skating and flexibility exercice, there won't be any loss, in fact, adding strenght might make him stronger and faster. Pronger was a skinny kid and he's pretty mobile now that he's at 220 lbs.

    Anyways, we agree that any prospects, even Eric Johnson, are not guaranteed top players or even NHLers.

  4. I didn't see the interview that was in question - so the reason I referred to it as a 'Richard incident' was actually based on a written article(not online so no link) that I came across earlier today which described it in such a way as if it were an incident. Their particular wording made it sound much worse than what it probably was. Unfortunately I can't remeber what rag I read that in - so my apologies that I can't?

    And I didn't quote either of the posts here directly, so wasn't necessarily implying you might have been reading something into it yourselves.

    Problem is that someone will intimate that he meant one thing when he said another, and we all know where that crap ends up in the garbage of the wrong tabloid(s)........

    My main point was the fact he seemed to have some clue about the Habs organization when TSN interviewed him at that time.

    That's fine. I just didn't want the other readers to start thinking that he had already made a mistake or something. Not aware that you saw something else in another article.

    He does seem to know a little about the Hbas. At least he knows we're a team with great tradition and all the Cups and stuff like he said on TSN :D

  5. By himself not alot but paired with either Zednik, Ribiero or Souray could land a decent Dman in return.

    I would like to remind people that Raycrap brought in a top prospect like Raask for Boston, good goalies taht are not expensive have a pretty good value. A Modin is worth a lot, but not what we need.

    We nned a good center or a good D. Preferable center, Ds are easier to find in this year's UFA market. In fact, the excess of them might allow teams to get them at a lower price vs. only having a few of them.

  6. Keep in mind that year in and year out, draft prospects of any team are always hyped. Its just the nature of the draft. Everyone expects these kids to be good, everyone compares them to X or Y and the projections are usually over-optimistic.

    Reality factor is that most never live up to the hype, even if they settle in a nice NHL career.

    I think this actually deserves a whole new thread.

    I said "could", don't have to give me the reality factors, I know exactly what they are.

    Reality is that no other prospects has as much top skills (per Sportsnet article I posted before) as he does for the position where we took him. Also, our #1 picks under Timmins are turning out to be no busts so far, but it's still a little too early to tell.

    Reality is that he will be a 6'4" 220lbs (minimum) with speed and agility, those don't come around too often, and he as great hockey sense to top it all of. And most importantly, everybody seems to say that the kid as a great determination and work ethic, all things that should help him become what he can be. Playing with Eric Jonhson next year won't hurt either.

    I also read comments from Trevor Timmins on the RDS website that first round pick David Fischer is closer to 6'4" and 185 pounds. Based on the photo of him standing next to a 6'3" Bob Gainey, I believe he's an inch taller. His weight is tough to gauge at this point, but he appears to be willing to start weight training.

    I read that when asked what was is weaknesses, he said he's weigth. He said that playing at University of inessota who as a light playing schedule will allow him to it the weight room often. Already planning to work on what he needs to improve :D

  7. Theodore had a bad season last year partly due to injury problems, so of course Canada passed on him. And who cares if he didn't play for Team Canada? Roy wasn't part of Team Canada for a numer of occasions.

    Playing for Team Canada means nothing - that team sucked anyways. I'm glad Theodore had nothing to do with that embarrassment.

    Writing...learn to do it.

    Actually, Colorado did that trade because they believed Theodore was a Stanley Cup worthy goalie. Also, many were saying that Montreal trading away Theodore was Roy (part 2) in the making. And Roy was definitely a Top 3 (not 5) goalie.

    No, the crap was much worse, and Theodore still won.

    The first time the Habs went to the playoffs, there was not a single legitimate star on that team. The leading scorer was Yanic Perreault, and somehow Theodore managed to carry them to the 2nd round of the playoffs. That team was by far much worse than Luongo's last Florida team, and equal to if not worse than any other of the rosters he's dealt with before.

    The 2nd time Theodore carried the Habs (in another All-star season), Souray was the only other All-star on that team. So, no - the Canadiens that Theodore carried were never any better or more talented than the Luongo's Panthers. You're obviously blinded by hate and ignorance. Like Montreal management says, the Habs don't need people like you for fans.

    After the Vezina, Theodore was still an All-star, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. And if Theodore wants to club and date Paris Hilton, he should have all the right to do so.

    Jose Theodore's last All-star appearence came the season before this one's. Not really a "long time ago", so stop exagerrating, you damn hater.

    I'm not a hater, you're ignorant, it's not the same. Here's a hockey lesson that you need:

    1), read this and you will see why he's an idiot and always as been:

    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentSe..._pageid=9688674

    2) Bad season partly due to injury problems? What the hell are you talking about? Man you know shit about hockey. He only injured is foot at the end of the season, he was already the worst goalie in the league before the injury. YES, the WORST. Look at is stats Mr. I can't see shit, he was the 30th #1 out of 30 teams, no other goalies did worst then him. That's more then a bad season, that's terrible and unforgivable for somebody with suposedly so much talent.

    3) He was not injured when Team Canada made their team and played at the Olympics, great comment !!! And who cares if he didn't play for team Canada??? He was invited to the camp and was past over in a flash, proof that he was bad. As for Roy, what are you talking about, he was part of team Canada for years, great comment again :wacko:

    4) As for writing, you got the message, that's what counts. First, I'm french, so my english is not perfect you moron and if writing is the only reply you can come up with, that's pretty lame and proves my point, thank you once again. As for Colorado, they got fuc..d and I'm glad we no longuer have to deal with this jackass anymore. Where did Mr. Cup worthy bring them....no where. As for Roy part 2, not a lot of people were saying that, in fact, nobody as been saying that except ignorant fools like you. Theo doesn't come close to Roy, so how could it be part 2. Roy as Vezinas, with an s, Stanley Cups, with an s, and a stature of being the best goalie ever. Theo won't even be remembered in 10 years from now.

    5) The crap was not much worse, far from it. The Habs had more depth and a much better D then Floridas. Funny how Luongo keeps finishing first every year (and by a mile) for shots received. The guy gets bombarded like no other. He even olds the NHL record for most shots received, but you're right, our crap was worse :wacko:

    6) As for Paris Hilton, that's just another incident that proves that he as no class, no brain, and that he only cares about himself. The guy is publicly cheating on his wife who just had a baby 3 months ago (and the kid as severe help problems) with the #1 top rated slut in the world. And that's OK :blink::wacko: The guy as a history of dumbass moves (see attached article) and he never learns from them. A pro sports player does have responsibilities: 1) towards kids who love them as heroes and 2) to his team who pays him huge amount of $ (god the bum is way overpaid).

    7) You really are making an ass of your self here with your posts. Better stop now before your name becomes the laughing stock of this board...oops, too late :lol:

  8. I wouldn't put too much into that so called 'Richard incident' - I didn't actually see it myself, but he also may have been taken aback by the fact some idiot reporter was actually just dumb enough to ask such an idiotic question.

    His brief interview on TSN right after he was picked seemed to indicate he knew about the Habs tradition of excellence.

    Man, people need to stop looking for idiotic crap........... :angry2::wacko:

    Who said anything about putting anything in there, it was just a funny thing that happened that we posted.

    There's no "incident" there. Read the post, it's about him being a funny guy.

    It's not every young kid out there that know Richard or what number he wore. I don't know much about old players from other teams.

  9. Theodore is better than Luongo. Some Quebec Habs "fans" just don't get it.

    How many Vezina and Hart trophies does Luongo have? (And no, it wasn't a fluke, Theo is a muliple time All-star, so drop that BS theory).

    Fans make excuses for Luongo's lack of success in the wins column because he plays for a bad team. Well, Theodore has brought just as much crap if not more to the playoffs, and to the 2nd round.

    Yet, nobody will make the same excuses for him, all you hear is, "He's undeserving of the Vezina." "Trade Theo." "He's a fluke." "He lets in too many easy goals." Basically, unless he got a shutout, some stupid @ss fan would give him crap.

    It's come to the conclusion that someone less accomplished, with less wins, and less playoff appearences is somehow worth more than Theodore?

    There is no other player in the NHL less appreciated than Jose Theodore. And it's a disgrace.

    Man you need a reality check big time !!! It's scary !!!!

    Just the fact that your name on this board is Ribeiro proves you don't know hockey, Ribs is a joke.

    Who was invited to team Canada last year, Luongo thank you. Aebischer for Theo under contract for 2 years vs everything Florida got for Longo who could be a UFA next year...thank you again. Just look at the facts buddy, Luongo as a much higher value in the league, and that's because is better PERIOD.

    When Theo was traded, did you ear any NHL GM or coach say that Theo was possiblt the best in the league or a top 5 for sure??? NO, but they all said it about Luongo.

    The Habs had a much better team then Florida, so no the crap was not the same. Get your facts straight and learn some hockey.

    When was Theo' last trophy or all-star appearance? Long time ago. Yes Theo had the potential to be great, when he was a nobody who had to prove is value. After the Vezina, he let it go to his head and stoped the training and concentrating on his career and started caring more about being a star (in the holywood sense) then a great hockey player.

    I can't believe that there are still guys like you that thinks that Theo is an elite goalie in this league :blink:

    Earth is calling Ribeiro, earth is calling Ribeiro...any answer???

  10. Damn Gainey Luongo Tanguay and who the hell was that draft choice, Gainey sits on his hands again, if he had gotten a second free agent last year to complement Kovalev we may be talking about a Cup win

    What are you talking about?

    Luongo will cost the world to sign, which we can't afford. More importantly, Keenan wanted a top offensive player which we don't have and Keenan has always loved Bertuzzi.

    Same for Tanguay, we need a center, not a winger and Colorado wanted a good puck moving defenseman, which we don't have except Markov, who's more valuable to us then Tanguay.

    Why do people always assume that we can get anybody this easily? I don't get it, it's complicated to make a trade. First, the other teams as specific needs, and if you don't have what they are looking for, then forget it, no deal. Second, you might have something ressembling what they need, but maybe the other team doesn't like that specific player, or another team is offering an even better player that we don't have in our ranks.

    I'm tired of seeeing Gainey this and Gainey that. As far as I know, there was a lot of other teams interested in these players too, but they didn'rt get them either. Wake up man !!!

    As for our pick, the guy is listed in the top 30 picks of almost all experts and mock drafts, there are not that many who can say the same after the first 12 picks of this year. The kid looks amazing, could end up being a steal at #20. It's not because you haven't eard from him that the kid is a bum. As far as I know, you're not a scout and you probably don't know anything about any of these players. We all don't. It's not because you eard of them and read some articles that you're now a scout.

    The Habs traded #16 pick for #20 and 53, that's amazing ! moving back only 4 spots for a 2nd round pick. Timmins explained that the only reason the Sharks paid so much (they were offering their 3rd pick at first) is because another team called and offered their second, since SJ's 2nd was better, the Habs made the deal with SJ.

    Stop complaining, I'm tired of Habs fans always complaining about this and about that, I'm pretty sure that BG knows is job much better and is 1,000 times more qualified then you will ever be.

    Have respect for the guy who's slowly, but surely building us a contender.

  11. Here's Timmins more detailed view from hockey's future:

    http://hockeysfuture.com/article.php?sid=8...hreaded&order=0

    Look at Sportsnet list of top skills for this year's prospects.

    Fischer is in the list for most dedication, hardest worker, best team leader, quicket feets and quickest hands.

    This kid could turn out to be a major steal...a top D in the league.

    White and Cepek are there for best agitators. White is going to be a great 3rd line grit player.

    Maxwell is also there for quickest feets.

    http://www2.sportsnet.ca/hockey/06NHL_draf...can_skaters.php

  12. I'll trust the Habs scouting department over what a poster says on a board from the "scouts" he spoke too.

    The kid sounded great on a "real" TV interview yesterday.

    Also read somewhere that he likes to wear #9 and when asked if he would wear #9 in Mtl by reporters, he looked at them with a "are you dumb" look and replied "Richard....". Sounds like a great kid to me :D

  13. I like this pick. We could have got Sanguinetti and I would have been happy with that. But I like the stategy of taking a guy with a huge upside. He may not pan out but he might be a future star defenceman. With a pick like number 16 or 20 I really like taking a gamble.

    Instead of having a guy like Sanguinetti, who apparently doesn't play physical at all and is not reliable in his own end (can you spell McCabe), we have Fischer who seems to have much more upside (just won't be ready as quickly as CHL Ds) and Mathieu Carle, a very good offensive D with a blazzing shot.

    2 for 1, looks good to me :D

  14. We don't need a 5M$ winger, we need a 5M$ center to replace Ribs. I love Tanguay to, but he's not what we need.

    Besides, Colorado wanted a good puck moving defenceman which we don't have except Matkov, and he's much more important and valuable to us then a guy like Tanguay.

  15. Is anyone else surprised that Boston dealt Raycroft to Toronto for only Rask? No Jay Harrison, Ian White, no Kyle Wellwood? Raycroft did have a rough sophomore year, but I think Boston could have gotten more than that. And it's not as though the Bruins really needed a young goalie, they have Hannu Toivonen. It's was surprising enough that he went to a divisional rival, but I think Toronto underpaid for him.

    And someone get a memo to Patrice Bergeron. If you really like it in Boston, don't get into any contract disputes.

    Quite the opposite, Raycroft is a 1 year wonder that is not worth much. I'm suprised Boston got so much in return for him. Thank you Ferguson for making an ass of your self once again and making the Laffs a non-playoff team next year. :lol:

    Looks good for what we will be able to get in return for a better goalie like Aebischer.

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