Komisarek the Cruncher
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WOW, Tanguay for Leopold!!!
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What the hell was Colorado thinking?
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What the hell was Colorado thinking?
Leopold and 2 2nd picks (not even a 1st) for a guy like Tanguay
I don't get it...
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Good question. So much for LA getting Luongo. IMO, given Luongo's contract status I do have to say if he isn't signed that Nonis is going to look like Mr. Potato Head
Agreed. Luongo doesn't know Vancouver well and it will take a while before he's willing to commit long-term to Vancouver, if he ever does. All he as to do is wait 1 year and sign with who ever he wants.
Pass a certain date (I forgot), the Nucks won't be able to talk contracts with Luongo before january 2007. By then, he may decide to wait for is free agency and is value will be little by then. No team will trade away what the Nucks just gave away at next year's trade deadline.
In fact, this is a huge gamble by the Nucks, one I don't think they will win....If I was Luongo, I would wait to become a UFA and get top money from my desired team I want to play for.
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Trevor Timmins mentions on a RDS article that the Habs will be looking to move up in the draft. He also mentions that it will only be worth it if they can get a top 8 pick because he says there are 8 super stars available this year per his evaluation. Anything after top 8 is not worth moving up according to him, the rest is all the same.
Would be nice to see the Habs get a guy like Brassard or Backstrom.
A line of Brassard with Latendresse would be nice in a few years.
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My fear is that we'll have to overpay for Arnott because of the demand. $4 million for a guy who will put up Ribeiro-like numbers removed from Modano (his normal totals come in at arounf 50-60 points), that's a lot to pay. Since there are more defenceman on the market they should come a bit more cheaply. So I think we'd be better off signing a first- or second-tier defenceman (McKee, Kubina, or dare I dream, JoVo?) and then trading, say, Souray - as painful as that would be, since I love the guy - for a bona-fide second line centre.
Arnott doesn't play with Modano, they're both centers. In fact, Arnott would be our #1 playing with Kovalev, not second like in Dallas.
Also, please don't compare Arnott to Ribs, Arnott is a legit goal scorer (25 sure), which is what we need, Ribs is just a passer. More over, Arnot as good + ratings (much better player both ways), can play on PP and PK, plus brings the size and grit that we need. There is more then just pts in hockey.
A 60 pts player who's +20 (Arnott) is 100 times better then a 60 pts player who's -10 (Ribs). Ribs gets is pts on the PP, Arnott gets them on 5 on 5.
Not even close to being able to compare both players.
Bring Arnott in and we will kick ass next year, guaranteed. Add the added experience of the young guys and Theo's departure, meaning good-bye the stupid distractions and the crappy goaltending, and we are set for a very good year.
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Who is surprised? Really?
He really does come across as a prettyboy moron. I guess I just never noticed it as much when he was a habs.
Oi...what a headache. Gooooooo Budaj!
No offense Jetsniper, but I told you weeks ago that Theo was a dumbass and that you would see what I was talking about next year, guess I was wrong about having to wait until next year....
Now Colorado is stuck with a 5M$ backup for 2 years, that's got to hurt the budget
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I trust in Gainey, Savard, Gauthier, Timmons and the rest of the staff.
What position was Chipchura taken at? 16th I do believe. It's true that some drafts are deeper than others but we should still bode very well. Savvy Savard will make us happy - NO WORRIES
.Alot of mock drafts have us taking Wishart. We'll see on Saturday.
TRUST IN BOB! :hlogo:
Wishart might be the best D available when our turn comes, but he is no longuer listed on the top 30 prospects by most scouts (ISS, CBS, TSN, tc.). No thank you, I want the best player available.
TSN as us picking the D Mark Mitera. Everybody is stuck on D, I say pick the best available player. We can trade our excess goalies and forwards for D.
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He is DEFINITLY the key. No doubt.
we lack size:
Who's got size?
ARNOTT
we lack grit:
who's got grit?
ARNOTT
we want more speed:
who's got speed?
ARNOTT
we want a right handed Center:
who is a right handed center?
ARNOTT
we want a 2nd line Center:
who can play 2nd line center like no others?
ARNOTT!
(1ppg on the second line is damn good)
With Gainey being vocal about wanting a player with these qualities.
With the habs having somewhat of a surplus of money.
With ARNOTT being a UFA.
With ARNOTT having Dallas ties (although it's not a factor, it can help).
etc.
If I had to put my money on a UFA:
On which UFA would I put my money?
ARNOTT!!!
HAHA, well yes, I love Langenbrunner, IMO, he's always been top 5 on the most recent teams in NJ. Their most complete forward. Not nearly as good as Niedermayer, but if you were to draw comparisons, he'd be the Scott Niedermayer of NJ's offense
However, (and you might get it from my most recent post) I do prefer Arnott... cause Arnott represents everything we need, everything we want (center, right handed, size, etc)
I'd be thrilled to have Langenbrunner, but he's 2nd on my list. Cause... although they're not right handed, guys like Higgins can do the job.
No one can do Arnott's job though.
That pretty much sums up what I think about Arnott too.
Even if that's all BG does this summer, I will be a very happy Habs fan
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Thank you Theo and the media for once again proving that Theo's departure was the best thing to ever happen to the Habs, like I've been saying since day 1 of this season.
And people were definding him so hard on this board
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Thank you Cruncher
Truthmonger was also lacking a hyphen in "reread"... but I understood what he was saying. BTW (By the way), English is my first language...just never thought "chat grammar" on a hockey fan site was so important.
I hope it's not too important, french is my 1st language and I would get a dozen grammar correcting posts for every post I make
As long as we can read the post without going
, nothing wrong with a couple mistakes.Am I the only one who believes Arnott is the key?Nope, I'm with you 100%.
Replacing Ribs with Arnott + the extra experience of the young guys would definetly give us a great season to follow. One where we would see our Habs grow into a force in this league...basically back where we belong
And now we all really need draft day to come along as we are discussing grammarLOL
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Yes, but learning some basic grammar like this helps people take you seriously on a board. When I see someone trying to make a point and they have a silly error like that, it makes me wonder about the validity of the whole post if the person can't even distinguish betwee "your" and "you're." It's a very simple thing and just adds respectability if you use them correctly.
English is not everybody's first language, you should think about that before dismissing somebody's post because of spelling mistakes.
I'd like to see you post in french, that would be too funny...but I would give you a thumbs up for the effort...
By the way, it's "between", not "betwee", but I don't stop my self at these things.
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Thanks for updating it Fanpuck...don't know how I missed out on Higgins.
I should have known better than to copy the salaries from TSN.
I am probably in the minority but I still like Zednik. Ribs I wouldn't even mind letting him go for nothing (not offering him a contract). I am however convinced that Aebischer has good trade value and will likely be moved.
To add to the Canadian Dollar bonus for the Canadian teams...I read that (I think MacLeans magazine) that for every 1cent climb in the dollar, teams save about 3-400k on salaries. Since the dollar is now upto 89cents vs the American dollar...and the pre-lockout rate was around 70cents...that gives the teams roughly 6-7 million more per season to play with (or pocket).
I would not go as far as 6-7 millions in savings. Canadian teams cover their foregn exchnage risk by buying US$ exchange contracts at a fix price. The buy some contracts for up to 10-15 years sometimes and some for 1 year. They obviously don't cover 100% of their budget with 10-15 years contracts, they cover a certain % over a certain time, all based on predictions as to where the CDN$ will go. I can tell you that at the value of the CDN$ now, all the teams are probably buying contracts for a long time.
Anyways, its complicated to explain how this works exactly if you're not in finance, I just gave a quick summary, but in the end, I would say that savings of 3-4 millions max is more reasonable. Unfortunatly, this doesn't apply to the cap which is all in US$. That saving is all for Mr. Gilett's pockets and no one else.
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Ok I'm gonna answer you for the last time because I feel bad for people like you.
UI never suggested the habs pick up Lang in any comment I made so quit pulling stuff out of the air. I compared Arnott and Lang in production and then in salary to prove a point, but you have predicted Lang will be a flop next year so why bother arguing about it anymore right?
The points per game is great except when a guy plays 30-50 games a year, that "stat" doesn't help any team do anything.
"Arnott is a better player then Koivu. Arnott's best are 33 goals, 76 pts and a +23 rating vs. Koivu's best that are 21 goals, 71 pts and a +8 rating. Look at their stats for the past 10 years and Koivu doesn't match Arnott's production. What does Koivu's value to the community have anything to do whit a player's talent and production? Yes Koivu as been here for a long time and went threw difficult times but can we blame Arnott for doing the same? Enough said."
Doesn't this contradict what you said in the first paragraph? ("Also, there is a lot more then production in a players value. You can't link point production to salary straight up just like you did. ")
For the cap comment Mr. Chartered accountant sir, I wasn't argueing how much would be legally allowed in a certain cap scenario. I was asking at what point would you consider Arnott to be overpaid. I must be out of my league, Next time I'll speak slower for ya.
As for Ribs, I don't care what is done with him but you can't loose him for nothing after spending millions developing him. Then again when it comes to players, money is no object. I thought accountants were numbers kinda people?
Wow, such weak arguments !!!! And you contradict your self all over the place!!!! And you leave out many things I say to only keep what helps make your point.
No point discussing with you
I don't feel sorry for people like you, only the ones that can be helped and you're way behond that point
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My God. The comparison between Lang and Arnott is by production for their team, not in playing styles
Dividing the points per game played is a way of curbing stats to fit what ever point you want to make. Per game averages are great except it makes too many assumptions. The per year average makes more of a statement based on actual completed accomplishments, where the other method seems based on what he "could/should" score if he was healthy, and not what he actually did.
Standing pat is exactly that, doing nothing in the UFA market for centres. I never suggested waiting til next year.
Arnott is not better then Koivu. At best they are equal and there is no stat you could find to prove that statement. The one thing different is that Koivu means more to the team and the community.
It shouldn't matter if the cap goes up, if it went up to $70M Would it make it ok to pay Arnott $7M or $9M or how about $15M then?
He is worth $3M, maybe $4M if you owe him a a debt of gratitude for saving your child or something.
As for Ribs, I never suggested keeping Ribs in the second line centre spot, but I don't think it would be " the worst thing that could happen to the habs this year" . He does need to be traded, but if people hate him so much what makes you think the list is long for takers?
If they're the same in production for their teams, then say so, don't say that Arnott and Lang are the same, it implies that they are the SAME...Also, they are not the same, one is on the decline and a huge risk (is it next year that Lang becomes a huge old flop...). Also, there is a lot more then production in a players value. You can't link point production to salary straight up just like you did. Arnott is a much better proven goal scorer (check the stats) and this is what we need more then anything else, not a passing center, a croring center (Koivu us a passing center). Also, Arnott as that playing style (physical, hard nose checking guy) that we need that Lang doesn't. Why get a guy that is old and doesn't fit what we need? I can't believe I'm actually explaining that we need Arnott way more then Lang, its so obvious
As for the pts/game vs. pts/season, they both are stats with flaws and good value. Pts/game doesn't curb anything???? It shows a players production to the team on a per game basis when he plays. It actually is the better stats to see the offensive a guy brings in a game. Pts/season doesn't show much unless players are at full seasons, otherwise it only reflects that a player can often be injured, which is also a good thing. While mine shows the offense that a guy brings (which is what we were talking about and what we are looking for), your's show that Arnott as a hard time playing a full season and you need the pts and game played stats to see any value in the pts/season stat. I and most analyst prefer the pts/game stats as it as more value by itself then the pts/season stat. Again, I don't even know why I'm expalining this, it's so obvious
Arnott is a better player then Koivu. Arnott's best are 33 goals, 76 pts and a +23 rating vs. Koivu's best that are 21 goals, 71 pts and a +8 rating. Look at their stats for the past 10 years and Koivu doesn't match Arnott's production. What does Koivu's value to the community have anything to do whit a player's talent and production? Yes Koivu as been here for a long time and went threw difficult times but can we blame Arnott for doing the same? Enough said.
Yes, I would pay Arnott 7M$ if the cap went up to 70M$. If the cap goes up to 70M$, that means that all players salaries would increase by the same %. Arnott at 4M$ is 10% of the 40M$ cap like at 7M$ it's 10% of the 70M$ cap. Who said anything about 15M$ or 21% of the cap that is not even permitted anyways (max 20%). Great analysis there
Man, you know nothing about a cap system and maths. You're arguing with a Chartered Accountant here, I would drop the cap comments if I were you, you're way out of your league here. Arnott is worth more then 3M$. 4M$ is the strict minimum. Dallas just offered him little over 3M$ and he turned it down. He will get 5M$ as a UFA, trust me on this one.
As for Ribs, I'm sure that a team would be interested, but I'm not saying we will get much in return. I just want him gone. Dropping him could also be a solution. Don't have to trade him, just not offer him a qualifying offer before June 26th.
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For the options that are out there in the UFA market at the centre position I would choose to stand pat and sit on my hands.
Naturally if a scoring centre could be had via trade then by all means do the deal.
There is no way, NO WAY, that Jason Arnott is worth $5M or more for a 50 point player. (644 career points divided by 12 seasons = 53.66 per season)
To me Arnott and Robert Lang are the same player in all areas except age ( 4 years difference ) At best he is worth $3M - $3.5 and no more.
Arnott and Lang are the same
I guess you never really saw them play to say such a thing. Similar size and stats on paper don't mean that they're the same.Divide the pts per game played, not seasons and you will get (644/824) 0.78 pts/game, so 64 pts per season. And that was in the low scoring trapped NHL and with many seasons in Edmonton with not so great talent on his line. You forget many things in your analysis.
Standing path for what? There won't be superstar centers available next year either. Good centers are one of the hottest and rarest commodity in the NHL, grab one if you can is the way to go. Teams are all keeping their good centers, most are all resigned before hitting the UFA market (Lecavalier, Thornton, Richards, Jokinen, etc.) Arnott is better then Koivu and we are paying him 4.75M$....don't have a problem giving him 4.5 to 5M$. The cap will increase again next year by another 4 millions probably. In a 47M$ cap system, paying a center like Arnott 5M$ is not a problem. Max salaries will be about 9M$ in 2 years, 5M$ for Arnott is fine with me.
Keeping Ribs is the worst thing that could happen to the Habs this year.
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Easy guys. I didn't say he sucks, just not THAT good.
Last year was a career year for Arnott. By far his best since the first season in the NHL and Ribs was made expendable by Pleks and Higgins (both centres playing the wing) so that is a crock.
Looking over his career numbers ( on a fantastic team with huge talent beside him don't forget) he averages around 50 points per season.
Big Deal!
Is this a case of him being able to help the habs greatly or a case of him being the only option so we make him sound/seem better then he really is (like we do with others ala Lecavalier, Huet, etc)?
Yes it was Arnott's career year, but a 30 years old, it often happens has guys get experienced and hit their prime. Also, could it be that the new NHL suits him better?
Ribs sucks PERIOD. As for Higgins, he's been converted to a winger since is 1st year in the AHL. The Habs don't see him as a center. He will never be one. He was not moved to center when Koivu was hurt last year...
As for Pleks, I prefer him as our 3rd center.
As for Arnott's career numbers, he's more a 60 pts then 50 pts average player and many seasons were not complete due to injuries, he's more of a 70 pts player over a full season. As for playing with guys with huge talent, I think Kovy can easily match any Dallas player that played with Arnott.
Yes he would help the Habs greatly as PB and I pointed out. He fits exactly what we need, a big talented right handed center who plays both ways. There are not too many of those out there. He's not the only option, there are cheaper less talented options in the UFA market and god knows who's available via trade for the right offer. So YES is the answer to your question, he is what we are looking for. Also, we can't afford anybody over 7M$, so again, he's the perfect fit for us.
We never said that he was a Joe Thornton, but he is a very talented center and not many can match what he brings overall.
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Can someone please tell me what the fascination with Jason Arnott is please?
He is talked about in this thread like he is a scoring machine and possible addition to the habs offence.
He is not THAT good.
He's the best center available via UFA this summer. He scored 32 goals and 76 pts last year, he's big and had 102 penalty minutes; and he plays very well both ways, I think that's pretty good, and most certainly 100 times better then Ribs. He finished 17th for points and 9th for goals for centers last year, that's in the top half of 1st line centers in the league, but you must be right, we don't need a guy like that, he would be a nightmare for our offense....
He would probably be be our best forward !!!
I have one question for the group.If Gainey finds himself against the cap and has an eye on a player that will cost about $1M; do you think he would buyout say a guy like Bonk? It would cost him 66% of his $2.4M salary and spread out over 2 years =$792,000 per year.
The NHL agreement is:
The NHL's labor agreement permits teams to buy out players between June 15, or 48 hours after the conclusion of the Stanley Cup final, whichever is later, and June 30. Players under age 26 are entitled to one-third of the money left on their contract, all others can be bought out for two-thirds.
This is just another factor in free agency that can help eliminate past mistakes with some savings.
You're right about the 66%, but the buyout price is spread over the remaining years of the contract boughtout per the CBA. Therefore it would be a 1.58M$ hit on the cap next year. We're better of keeping him for that year while Chipchura gets that 1 year in the AHL that he needs and then be-bye for the 2007-08 season.
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Ummm... which of our many wingers do you consider to be a productive natural goal scorer? I am confused here. Yes, maybe in a year or two one of the young guns will fill this position, but not to take away from Ryder, as I love the guy like a brother from a different mother, but if he is our leading goal scorer again next season we are in trouble.
I agree we need a second line center, 1st and second if Saku doesn't return, but we also need a goal scorer and a #1 defenceman.
Like Kaos said, how are young gyys going to develop with no ice time?
Ryder is a 30 goal scorer. Kovy with a full season is a 30 goal scorer, even more if match with a decent center.
Higgins could score 30 if he keeps doing what he was doing at the end of the season.
I think that's pretty decent goal scoring from our wingers, 3 30 goal scorers + who knows from the other young guys.
Why would an experience UFA come in and score more? There are not that many guys available and the 40 goal scorers are almost non existent and probably too expensive for what we can afford.
Your wish list is nice (center, goal scorer, #1 D), but impossible with our cap situation. We have to be realistic here. We can afford one of these guys, not all 3. See our cap situation on the free agent thread, you will quickly realize that we can't afford all these guys.
Many fans seem to forget that there is a thing called a cap in the NHL now.
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And where are you going to get this "Mystical Centre" ? Lets see nobody wants to spend any money (Which is not ours so no big deal) and nobody has come up with a name that could play centre for the Habs. I like Arnott but he is going to cost some $$$$.
I keep hearing we need a centre the sky is falling but there is not one Centre who can score 100 points available. And for those of you that say you don't need a scoring centre, are you the same people who said we need a scoring centre? I am confused about this whole thing
But it is a fun discussion, break out those boxing gloves.
Any center will do. Some might be available via trade. Ribs is a very low quality center and any replacement will upgrade the Habs by a ton.
Ribs qualities: great vision and great passer
Ribs problems: small and easily pushed off the puck, very slow, as no shot, below average on face-offs, bad defensively, not physical, doesn't play hard often and disapears in the playoffs....
Not that hard to upgrade. I prefer Plekanec as 2nd center over Ribs.
Arnott is a possibility but will cost about 5M$. As for trades, well, who knows who's available?
As long as we bring in somebody else to replace Ribs, I will be happy with next year's team.
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YOU GUYS RULE!
I cannot believe I did not see the Habs player contracts on Habsworld. Shame on me.
I promise to be more resourceful in the future as I just missed this.
Komisarek The Crusher good job on the breakdown. That was a lot of work and is appreciated. Once Bonk and Zednik are gone from the team that really helps open up some wiggle room. Now after reading this I think the only free agents Montreal will be signing is their own.
Thanks.
You could not be more right about Bonk. Anyone defending him doesn't understand the cap system well. He's a complete waste of money at 2.4M$. Go Chipchura in 2008, a saving of at least 1.5M$, plus the cap increasing again another 3 to 4M$ probably. Then it will be BG's time to make a splash and give us that strong Cup contender team that will be amongst the elite of the league.
I disagree that all he will do is resign our UFA. We do have a lot of room to sign a player, just not that 8M$ guy that some fans are dreaming about. He did say he wanted a UFA forward and that he wanted to upgrade the offense. BG just won't stay still, the fans and media would tare the city upside down if he doesn't do at least one move (trade of UFA).
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What is your source for the Habs cap?
Cap goes up $4M, Montreal lets free agents go(Bulis etc.) and Theo was ???$4.5M. That is a far cry from maxed out.
I have not been able to find a credible source for the Habs cap. Funny as it is easy to see NBA teams cap numbers as it is discussed every day on sports sites. Now where are those Habs capologists hiding.
Here's a quick analysis.
Under contracts and known salaries (11 players):
- Dandenault (1.7M)
- Markov (1.75M)
- Rivet (2.4)
- Souray (2.25M)
- Begin (1M)
- Bonk (2.4M)
- Downey (0.48M)
- Koivu (4.75M)
- Kovalev (4.5M)
- Plekanec (0.57M)
- Zednik (1.9M)
Under contracts and unknown salaries (2 players):
- Streit (0.6) - rumoured to be
- Murray (0.75) - worst case senario
The rest is a guess, here's my best shot at it (includes estimate of salaries towrads the worst case scenario to be conservative and Aebi being traded and Danis resigned):
- Huet (3M)
- Danis (1M)
- Bouillon (1.5M)
- Komisarek (1.2M)
- Higgins (1M)
- Perezhogin (1M)
- Ribeiro (1.75M)
- Ryder (2M)
That's 21 players for 37.5M$, about 6M$ under the cap, maybe more due to cap being between 43 and 46, my guess is 43 (see my post http://forums.habsworld.net/index.php?showtopic=6912 for my reasons of a 43 cap vs 46).
The above 21 players gives us a complete team (2 goalies, 7 D and 12 forwards), with one forward short to play on the 3rd line (see below).
Assuming we maintain the goalies and D as is (as I have been predicting for a while), BG can move Zednik (Kostitsyn at 0.9) and Ribs for an additionnal saving of 2.75M, leaving close to 9M to upgrade the center position (Ribs). Asuuming that BG will keep 3 to 4M in reserve, we have about 5-6M for a center, can anyone spell A-R-N-O-T-T.
That's it folks. We don't have that much cap space and BG said that he wanted to upgrade the offense, so like I've been saying all a long, forget any D coming as help unless we have to trade one for that offensive help.
Kostitsyn-Arnott-Kovalev
Higgins-Koivu-Ryder
Perezhogin-Plekanek-?
Begin-Bonk-Murray
Downey as depth
? could be Zednik or someone else at 2M$ top. That would mean that we don't save the 1M$ (kost vs. Zed), but we have the room for it. Zednik played well with Plekanec and Perezhogin in the playoffs, could be interesting to keep that line. Perezhogin and Kostitsyn could switch places also.
Markov-Komisarek
Souray-Rivet
Bouillon-Dandenault
Streit as depth
Huet-Danis
No way we keep Huet and Aebi, BG just said that to avoid admitting to the other GMs that he wants to trade Aebi.
Anyways, have fun analyzing and tearing apart my analysis
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One of the main concerns with Bertuzzi is the fact it's oft been mentioned in certain circles that he's rumoured to be a disruptive force in the dressing room. Whether this is actually true or not remains to be proven?
However true that may be or not the fact is Bertuzzi brings with him a ton of excess baggage that stems from the Moore incident. With the filing of suits and countersuits, and the publicity associated with such events, the fact remains if the Habs really want to find themselves in the centre of a circus sideshow? Past events suggest otherwise, as we've seen Theodore, and to some lesser extent Brisebois, eventually traded when they've found themselves in the midst of circumstances that seem to distract from the team itself.
So it is not necessarily as much about moral issues for some who question if they want Bertuzzi in a Habs jersey, as it is about purposely obtaining a commodity that already finds itself in the midst of circumstances that have the unnecessary potential to create a major distraction.
Those possibilities have to be weighed carefully for a franchise that has long been proud of its' reputation for class and excellence, no matter how good that player may be?
Do you want a good player with a sideshow always lurking on the horizon, or do you want just a good player who comes to play every night with no issues already included at the point of purchase?
Bravo !!! Very well said. People confuse the morality with the baggage and the stupidity of the guy.
I don't care if he killed the guy, Bert still has a pending lawsuit against him and why bring over here the circus show? That would be the dumbess thing to do.
Also, see the comments about is temper. The guy as a reputation of being a jackass in the clubhouse and impossible to coach, no thank you.
Some of you have to stop just looking at point production, hockey is a team sport and the team needs to jell to be good and a jackass like Bert won't contribute that way. Besides, he only scored 25 goals last year and he played with Naslund and had tons of PP time, not that impressive for a 5M$ player.
And I repeat for the zillionth time, we need a CENTER, not a damn winger, we have tons of them.
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Yes, it's 20 for CHL players and 18 for any other players (Americans, Euros, etc.).
Gui can't play in the AHL next year, he will be 19.
If he does well at camp, I say try him for that 10 games period where an NHL team can send the player back the CHL. If he does well, keep him, if not, send him back to Drummondville.
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Bertuzzi? No thanks - :nono: too much baggage. Is this guy a good team player? Is he a influence in the dressing room?
Nope... no thanks. :nono: :nono: :nono:
:king: :hlogo: :king:
I'm with you on this one. We got rid of Theo, don't need another over-priced problem who brings more distraction then anything else to a team.
Besides, CENTER guys, CENTER is what we need, not a winger. Latendresse will be our power forward soon.
2006 NHL Entry Draft Thread
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Why drop a young guy like Tanguay...drop the old farts to save money. That was a terrible trade. Worst I've seen in a long time.