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2 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
I think this trade comes down to what Mailloux turns into. If he becomes a first pairing stud then Habs lose, if he is a bottom pairing guy then Habs win.
Presuming the Habs draft two high end forwards at pick 3 and 5.
Definitely an interesting proposal
There are a lot of unknowns with this trade. How far will Mailloux develop, how much further will Zegras develop, what will the #3 pick turn into?
This is also another factor regarding this trade. I think in the back of Hughe's mind there is the thought that Mailloux will have an easier time away from the spotlight of the hockey mad Canadian cities. California would be perfect for that.
I just think there is a deal possible between Anaheim and Montreal because there is a fit of complimentary pieces.
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I don't think Hughes wants to trade CC, I really like CC but it's actually the best proposal I have seen recently to improve the Habs in my opinion. Is there a better trade proposal out there that's not one sided in the Habs favour?
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I think it's a very fair proposal. I see benefits for both sides.
What I don't want to see happen at the draft this year is when Montreal comes to draft at #5, all the forwards they covet are gone and the BPA is yet another defensemen. Hughes has to make sure that doesn't happen.
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9 minutes ago, hockeyrealist said:
Mailloux is a god damn stud. He finished tops in AHL d scoring and tied for 7th overall in scoring in his first season. Someone he was tied with: Shane Wright. Shane the touted prospect and high pick who could very well represent what you’d get with a top 5 pick.
Mailloux will be an NHL all star at some point, he will be a 50-60 point dman and if properly paired with someone defensively minded (like Guhle) he will not be a liability. He is that good and getting better. His defensive game improved this season and given the limited action he had over prior two seasons, I believe there are strong signs that he has the tools and desire to improve all around. While he has a flawed past, since he’s been a Hab he has done nothing but prove he has grown and improved, and can play wicked good hockey. Big. Mobile. Aggressive. Yessir.
If I was convinced Mailloux would be an all star then perhaps I would not make this trade. I am not as convinced as you are.
If you make this trade
a) you are almost guaranteed to end up with a stud forward at #3 (Demidov or Lindstrom)
b) you have more choices at #5, a stud defensemen or maybe Iginla, Helenius
c) plus you have Zegras who might be really motivated to prove himself with a new team
It hurts to give up CC but overall this might be a better team.
Trades like this are fun to talk about. In any event I do see possibilities of an Anaheim/Montreal trade as they do have pieces that compliment each other.
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15 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
Whether or not it is a good idea ... it is a "little bit" more than Caufield for Zegras.
It's a lot more than Caufield for Zegras. If you break this trade down into 2 components.
a) Caulfield for Zegras
b) Mailloux and Winnipeg's pick for the #3 pick
I think you would do part b) all day long. But you would probably not do part a)
Overall I think it's a fair deal. I know everyone on this board would like to give up a couple tugboats for a battleship but that's not how it works.
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3 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:
I would NEVER even CONSIDER that. That is a massive overpayment, when Caufield may end up being the better player.
I don't think it's a massive overpayment. The #3 pick could turn out to be an absolute stud.
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18 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
Mailloux, CC and Winnipeg's first for Zegras and Ducks #1 ... as an opening offer
That is an interesting trade proposal. It certainly gives Anaheim something they are looking for. To get something you have to give something up and CC is certainly a very good piece. This is actually one of the better trade proposals I have seen as it made me think a lot about who is getting the better deal. I think it's pretty fair. Well thought out.
I would think both teams want to see how the ping pong balls fall before entertaining something like this.
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1 hour ago, tomh009 said:
I expect this would be the primary focus as most 18yo D-men are still multiple eyars away from the NHL.
Not always multiple years. It's not also easy to find teams willing to give up top 4 right handed D in a trade. Unless you are willing to pay a premium.
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34 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
Believe it was also referring to trade targets.
Yes, I took it to assume both, trading or drafting.
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14 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
An important factor to take into account when considering any trade proposals involving Anaheim
That makes perfect sense as almost all of their good young defensemen and forwards shoot left. They would be less likely to draft a guy like Lindstrom and more likely to draft a Levshunov.
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4 hours ago, GHT120 said:
I have to admit ... I am in the "Habs should be the next Canadian team to win the Cup" camp ... it isn't in any way logical ... but being a fan generally isn't.
Absolutely, as I have said many times, fan is short for fanatic, absolutely no logic behind being a fan. You are either a Habs fan or you are not, there is no middle ground.
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1 hour ago, DON said:
These folks are high on Buium.
Iginla just named to Canada's U-18 team and another chance to showcase his game.
DobberProspects’ April Top-96 for the 2024 NHL Draft – DobberProspects
A lot of folks are high on Buium. If Eiserman falls to 15 then the Habs should definitely try and trade up. Demidov seems to be #2 on a lot of lists now.
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14 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
Wouldn't it have to be the "traditional" 2nd round pick?
Sure, I would top it up with a 4th and a 2nd. Get it done Kent!!
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The craziest rumour I have seen in a long time. I would be embarrassed to go to LA with a proposal like that. Might have to top it up with a 4th round pick. LOL
Obviously some crazy, delusional Hab fan came up with this.
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The Leafs were the hungrier team and deserved to win. The Hurricanes were relentless after being down 3-0, Patrick can't be too happy.
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We need Winnipeg to lose in the 1st or 2nd round but you simply CANNOT win with mediocre goaltending this time of year so I think we will need the winner of the Dallas-Vegas series to take out Winnipeg.
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Maybe hiring former coaches of the same team will become a new trend. I wonder what Therrien is up to??
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39 minutes ago, JoeLassister said:
GO LEAFS GO in round 1. F**K Boston !!!
No, no, no. We can't have the Leafs gaining confidence from beating their arch nemesis in the playoffs. Who knows what could happen after that. The sooner they get eliminated, the easier I can sleep.
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24 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
Kidney didn't exactly impress this year (and might be more of a winger than a centre) and Mesar might be too small to be a centre. So we're looking at Beck and Kapanen as prospects whose stock is on the rise, maybe Xhekaj one day in a lower role. Not bad but the cupboard isn't fully stocked on the prospect front at centre.
On the NHL roster, there's some depth but with two pending UFA's, it's short-term. Add to that some uncertainty as to where Newhook's long-term position will be and there is definitely room to augment that position. It's certainly better than it was a few years ago, sure, but there's a lot of room to add still.
For me the key is Dach. It's a shame he got hurt so early in the year. It robbed us of the opportunity to see if he is a long term solution at center. If Dach can stay healthy (hardly a certainty) then we could be set at center. It would have been nice going into the draft this year with a little more certainty about Dach but that's the way it goes.
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1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
Yikes 😱Jets turned that around quick
I think the Jets win this in five, Hellebucyk is just so much better than anybody the Avs can throw in there. The Jets are also pretty deep in goal scorers.
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Schadenfreude is a miserable trait to have but I will admit to being guilty of this when it comes to a certain hockey team and their fan base. Guilty as charged, maybe I am just a miserable human being?
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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I heartily endorse the general sentiment. The Bruins are an authentic rival, and a truly great (and duly hated) opponent over the years; the Leafs are a creation of the TO hype machine. No amount of suffering is too much for them. And I know that if they win, we will NEVER hear the end of it - celebrated over and over on HNIC and the national media as the Greatest Day in Hockey History, universally beloved, blablablablah. Over and over, year after year, until we die.
No thanks.
The two worst things that could possibly happen to me as a hockey fan are these:
1. The Habs fold and leave town.
2. The Leafs win the Cup.
I'm pulling for the Bruins 100% in this series. I'll cheer against them thereafter.
I tried to find something in your statement I could even marginally disagree with but I couldn't. If (heaven forbid) the Leafs win the cup my use of any type of media will plummet substantially.
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4 hours ago, BCHabnut said:
The hate of the leafs is based only on the media and their fan base. If I was hate cheering properly, I would be hate cheering against boston, because I truly hate many players who have played for them. Including rat boy and their president Neely. And a huge list of their alumni. I don't actually hate anyone on TO. I actually like Matthews. But I still want boston, who I have reason to hate, to beat the leafs just so the media and fans can be let down. They won't shut up, but at least I can revel in their pain.
The media and fan base is more than enough for me. I never had anything against Cam Neely, tremendous power forward, the kind of player any team would want. It's true Jack Edwards is a huge homer, can't stand him but not a fan of Reaves either, acted like a big tough guy with Arber out of the lineup.
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5 hours ago, Commandant said:
I wouldnt do it either... but my point is that a pick in the 20s, a 22 year old dman who got sent to the AHL due to being a liability and a 26 year old D who is third pairing, isnt gonna get that much.
I agree that Kovacevic is not worth a lot, but a lot of young defensemen have been sent to the AHL and have turned out OK. I think Xhekaj was sent to the AHL this year to work on things and I am pretty darn sure he has a lot of value. Getting sent to the AHL is certainly not a kiss of death for a young defensemen.
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How is the St. Louis trade or all those other names relevant to this? There is always some uncertainty/risk when trading a player who hasn't fully developed yet. There is no reward without some risk.
I just think the trade put forth by GHT was the most interesting trade proposal I have seen yet. Most of the ones I have seen usually involve Montreal getting far more than they are giving up. This was a major trade proposal that could actually work for both teams involved.