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9 hours ago, dlbalr said:
Trust me, the hype is still there. There's plenty of talk about how he is playing his best hockey in a long time (he had one whole point last month) and how he's a must-play player to start the playoffs.
I hope that Sheldon Keefe is listening to that inane bullspit. Reaves will hurt the Laughs far more than he will help them in the playoffs
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On 3/29/2024 at 1:02 PM, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
The Hurricanes have definitely been a thorn in the Habs’ flesh. Very much a “this century” thing. Whether it’s the absolute BS call that cost us the series in 2002, or the gouging out of Koivu’s eyeball that similarly turned the series (that made TWO unearned playoff wins against us!!), or the Kotkaniemi nonsense, we’ve had to put up with a whole lot of crap from that quarter. So that is a totally valid choice and probably pretty representative of a younger generation of Habs fans.
I actually think Savard’s drafting was underrated because of all the blown 1st rounders. Houle inherited a team that had a lot of strong pieces and some promising young players (Tucker, Conroy, Bure, Koivu, etc.). There was no way the period from 1995-2005 should have been as catastrophic as it was. That’s on the second worst GM in modern NHL history, i.e., Reggie Houle.
I don’t think I can be considered part of the younger generation by any metric 😎 Also, dislike Tampa. If you rank Houle as second worst, who is worse, Mike Milbury?
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22 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I don’t hate the Flyers org in the way I hate Toronto (first with a bullet: hatred and contempt), Boston (hatred tempered with respect for a great opponent), and, a distant third, Ottawa (contempt curdling into intense dislike)…but I don’t like ‘em either.
The Broad Street Bullies were a disgrace to the game and the Habs dynasty had to thump their asses in order to save hockey itself from sheer thuggery.
Then there was the Hextall teams in the 1980s.
Then that drooling jabbernowl Houle gave them Leclair and Desjardins in a disastrous overpay for Recchi, and they owned us for years.
It’s been a pretty quiet 21st century between the two franchises, though, I’ll admit.
I too, shudder at the mere mention of Houle’s reign of Error as Habs GM but that terrible, destructive trade was the work of Serge Savard. The drooling Jabernowl did the final razing of the’93 championship team with a series of almost inconceivably bad trades, poor drafting and non-existent development. Btw, I also hate the Leafs, apparently not as much as you, the Bruins and to a much lesser degree the Flyers, but number 1 on my list for many years is the Hurricanes.
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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
That's one of the key prisms to understanding that trade, actually. Many critics are seeing Kuzmenko as a "catch" for Calgary. But from Vancouver's side, he was basically a salary dump.
On reflection, while I'm happy with the 1st and not outraged by the deal, I do think more should have been expected. Maybe not much more - e.g., an unconditional third or fourth. But something. Monahan is an excellent player who brings all those "intangibles" GMs are always having orgasms about.
Hughes probably could have done at least marginally better if he'd been patient and waited for a bidding war.
Or. more likely, Monaghan could have gotten injured again and tanked his value. As many professional commentators have noted the Monaghan deals are a masterclass in asset management. I'm happy that Hughes didn't try to overplay his hand and made the deal now.
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16 hours ago, dlbalr said:
Could you post a link to where you found it?
As for the offer itself, I'd pass. Ceci isn't that great and Borgeault's value has cratered this year. Granted, they'd keep the retention slot in this case but this feels underwhelming.
Link https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2024/01/canadiens-rumors-oilers-linked-to-david.html?m=1
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21 hours ago, PMAC said:
I like the EDM to MTl trade rumour I saw on several sites Savard and a 5th to EdM for Ceci, Borgault and a 2nd.Thought's?
Link https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2024/01/canadiens-rumors-oilers-linked-to-david.html?m=1
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I like the EDM to MTl trade rumour I saw on several sites Savard and a 5th to EdM for Ceci, Borgault and a 2nd.Thought's?
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16 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:
some rumblings on Savard:
Didn’t quote the right portion but some where in there was a statement that Tampa only gave up a 4th to get Savard. The return was a 1st 2021 and 3rd (2022) with a 4th going to Detroit for salary retention
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/lightning-acquire-david-savard-blue-jackets-three-team-trade/sn-amp/
Contending teams love to add guys like Savard who sacrifice their body to win. And for some teams, that reasonably priced additional year is an advantage. Given Hughes’ trade record, I don’t expect Savard to be traded this season unless the return is really good.
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16 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:
Why would we want to trade a guy who may be a top pairing dman and will for sure be at least a solid 2nd pairing dman?? It makes no sense! Adding a Laine or other skilled forward is not going to get us into the playoffs, and so far the only one of our young D that has demonstrated AT THE NHL LEVEL, that he may become a top pairing guy, we want to trade?? I’d trade Matheson before even considering moving Guhle.
I agree. Chelios, McDonough, Sergachev ring any bells? The last thing on Earth I want is for MTL to trade a D-man with Guhle’s potential for a forward. Now, Harris or Kovacevic(sp) in a trade like Romanov + for Dach ? Yes, please, I’ll have another.
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5 hours ago, hockeyrealist said:
Why?
Not at all a Habs related article and seems to offer no point.
Why is that on a Habs page and why bother, no news, no info, just a puke of words.
Since the site is covering other teams and their players. Why no article about Ovi’s struggles this year, or why not another Leafs article since we are desperate for topics apparently…? Because Huberdeau is from QC?
The content on the main page has dropped in quality, this article and the ten thoughts are bad ideas. Move on.The only drop in quality on this site occurs when misguided critics rudely complain without offering any constructive advice for improvement.
PS: I have heard overwhelmingly positive feedback on the 10 thoughts
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15 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
Allen has a 7-team NTC, and Hughes has indicated (if I recall) that he told Allen he is not on the market ... so the first question is whether Allen wants to leave Montreal.
I am not certain why the Habs need to add anyone but Allen ... Montreal is giving up the prime asset and the Oilers won't have the cap space to take on Pezzetta ... in contract terms, Foegele and Janmark for Allen adds $100K to the Oilers cap, although Pickard being sent down leaves Edmonton with $662.5K in cap space ... but that is less than the NHL minimum ($775K) ... it would also leave Edmonton with 12 forwards and they already are going with only 6 defencemen; so no spares on the NHL roster ... just not certain the cap works unless Holland is also willing to risk moving Bouchard ($3.9M) for one of the Habs young defencemen (Harris or Barron).
EDIT: I forgot the $21-25K of cap space the Oilers currently have (projected vs current) ... not that it gives them enough space to add a spare forward or defenceman ... maybe one od the other once they are deep enough into their schedule for enough cap space to have accrued.
I can't imagine that Hughes would trade Barron at this point, nor should he. I think that Hughes will only make a deal if he can leverage Holland's desperation to salvage his legacy and his job. Remember the old saying: When fellow GMs see you struggling, they don't throw life preservers; they throw anchors".
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8 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
My prediction as follows:
1) 38 - 40 - 3 - 1 - 80 pts
2) 8th in Atlantic
3) 23rd in league
4) 3 x 20 goal scorers
5) Suzuki 72 points
Note to PMAC above, your numbers don't add up (ie. adds up to 83 games). Cheers
Oops, fixed now
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36W -38L 4OTL - 4SOL - 80 pts
8th in Atlantic
26th in league
4- 20 goal scorers
Suzuki 77points
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1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
I hope Reinbacker looks great tonight. Maybe that would silence the pick 5 complaints.
Excited to see if Slaf, Newhook, Anderson can dominate tonight. Preseason and all but at least they are facing NHL competition.
Anyone know if this is on YouTube again?
Not sure about YouTube, but it’s on the radio TSN 690
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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Well, I don’t know of any player whose development was compromised by spending time in the AHL. I suppose this could be the case if you have a really terrible coaching staff at that level; but if that’s so, then why keep that staff in place?
By contrast, bringing players up too soon is a higher-risk development strategy that can indeed go awry. Even the great Carey Price, who at least had one extended playoff in the A, barely survived that treatment.
That being said, I’m not saying Slaf won’t overcome it and thrive. But last season he was clearly not NHL ready and that’s one reason he got hurt. 🤷♂️ Clearly it was not the right approach in terms of last season, anyway.
Something was mishandled regarding injuries last season, that’s for sure. They’ve made changes to the training staff. Whether those guys were scapegoats for what was really a management/coaching attitude will never be known.
Does the name Slyvain Lefebre ring any bells? It is definitely possible for poor AHL coaching to stymie development and for said coach to keep his job in defiance of all logic and common sense.
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10 minutes ago, Kiwihab said:
Would it not have been easier to retain $2m on Hoffman’s salary and try to move him? At least that’s only for one year.
Obviously it wasn’t, because they couldn’t give Hoffman away. I don’t understand why people are crapping on the finale of the Petry trade part 2. What’s not to like about Petry, Poeling, Pitlick and Hoffman with 2+ million salary retained (2seasons of Petry) for Matheson, a 2nd, two 4ths, Legarre(22); Gustav Lindholm(24 yr old RT D) and DeSmith?! That’s an amazing return for an aging defender who wanted out, 2 4th liners and Hoffman- who most felt would need a draft pick added to get a team to take him.
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It was well worth the declining draft pick from Florida to see the Leafs implode like this. This exactly what I was hoping for. According to Chris Johnston the leading external candidate for the Leafs GM job is Brad Treliving with the other experienced candidates being Marc Bergevin, Peter Chiarelli, Chuck Fletcher !, and Stan Bowman.
I can see why Dubas thought he had more leverage with that candidate pool. Treliving might be ok, but the rest except Bowman have trashed their former franchises. I hope they hire Fletcher😎 -
1 hour ago, tomh009 said:
I care much less about this season’s playoffs than the Habs’ future, so, for me, a Florida loss is what really matters.
That is a much more rational approach but I’m going with bile not reason.
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I strongly prefer the Leafs being bounced in the first round. That could lead to a senior management over reaction that could have catastrophic consequences for their team.
Also, after much deliberation, I have reluctantly decided to hope for a monumental upset by Florida, draft pick be damned. The only two outcomes that will make me happy this playoffs is both the Leafs and Bruins losing. But in fact, the only NHL action I’m likely to watch is the draft lottery -
I could see Allen or Primeau being traded prior to the start of next season, if Les Canadiens are comfortable with Montembault at #1 for next season
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9 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
One of MB’s basic flaws as a manager was to run his show as a private mafia where what mattered above all was loyalty to him. Thus, he kept that blithering jackanapse Lefebvre in place for five years (!!) despite his proven incompetence - God knows what damage ensued to our player development- and hired that dimwit Therrien and then held on to him long past his best-by date. He also allowed personal animus to contaminate player decisions (Subban) and erred in the other direction as well, seemingly being only too happy to embrace crushing contracts for ‘his’ players in Price, Weber, and Gally.
Crapping all over the heads of Habs alumni - the greatest alumni in the game - is consistent with this power-maximizing mafioso attitude to leadership. It had to be His Show and damn the consequences. No other voices, no other variables allowed.
The only thing I disagree with here is the statement on the damage to player development. I think that it is very apparent what a disastrous failure Bergevin and Lefebvre’s incompetence produced as evidenced by the rebuilt we are in now and how few players touched by Lefebvre achieved success.
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9 hours ago, Sir_Boagalott said:
Its really only logical to hope the Habs get Bedard or the Yotes.
I've said that exact comment on here before.
Interestingly, Friedman made an comment recently regarding Bettman and the Yotes. Bettman has been getting a ton of heat from other owners for his insistence of allowing the Yotes to continue to exist. Bettman needs to be careful.
The players are pissed off because the Yotes affect the Cap and the NHLPA are unable to get rid of Bettman. The GMs dont like it either, but they cant do anything. However, if there are enough pissed off owners I'm pretty sure Bettman could be fired over it.
The Yotes could be moving and soon, but to where? There was mention of 2 expansion teams to Houston and Atlanta, but Quebec City could be another possibility.
There is no way Bettman is getting fired over the Coyotes. The owners know that their only path to even more money is a bigger US footprint. As for relocation, it would be Houston or even Atlanta again before anywhere in Canada
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32 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Chychrun nets a 1st a two 2nds…Hronek (not as good but RD) nets a 1st and a 2nd. Maybe you just have to pay to get quality puck moving blueliners.
Ottawa is closer to contention, has cap space and Chycrun, as you said, is a better player, younger and on a better contract. While Vancouver is capped out and desperately trying to unload a declining Boeser and is stuck with a mediocre core minus its former best player in Horvat. My issue is not the price Vancouver paid for Hronek, but that it was a terrible acquisition given their context. We will just have to agree to disagree.
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10 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I dunno why I’m (sort of) defending these clowns, but here’s how the Canuckleheads’ two big moves of 2023 break down in toto:
Horvat + 2023 2nd
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Beauvillier, Hronek, Raty + 2023 4th
All told, this seems reasonable to me 🤷♂️
The deeper strategic or structural problem is that they had to move Horvat, who wanted to stay, because they locked up JT Miller to an 8 year deal. They effectively picked Miller over Horvat. Nothing in this deal makes good on that profound team-building blunder. But taken for what it is, the moves summarized above look decent to me.
A 4-5 year rebuild may well cost you Pettersson and possibly Hughes. I honestly don’t know about the wisdom of rebuilding when two absolute stud, elite players are on your team and just entering their primes.
You might be right except that you are counting Horvat and the first that they got back for him as one transaction and one mistake. Trading Horvat was unavoidable given their mistake in signing Miller. IMHO, they significantly compounded that mistake by giving up a first and second for Hronek.
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And then, Hughes hangs up the phone and waits.