I don't really understand the title to this thread. It indicates that the team players are at fault. Hmmmm are they trading drafting etc for each other? If it is the team do we fire 22 guys? I think if the team has a lack of talent that would be the GM's fault or the coach's fault for mishandling them. The current GM has been here for 5 years, the previous coach (le genius) was here for almost 5 years. How long do you give them before you realise they don't have the answers? This is a results based business, we have seen poor results. Now let's be honest Mark down ain't going anywhere, still has a long and I mean long contract, so he is ok for at least another 2 to 3 years. We are dealing with a Molson here not a Pegula.